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More Restrictionless Cosmetics
Claudman
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Why are non-Argonians able to use a skin which makes literally no sense for them to use (unless we're saying this is actor bodypaint or some temporary alteration spell), but Argonians aren't allowed to use things that make no sense for them to use? (I have an Argonian character who's an actor and would love to use fake beards on them.)
Can we make this a two-way thing? The idea of a feather beard or actual scars on an Argonian also sounds pretty cool.
EDIT: Yes, I do realize some other skins make no sense. That's not the topic of this thread. I'm asking for stuff which isn't race-locked like the Barbarian back which was only usable for humanoid races, but not beast races and vice versa.
Basically, I'm asking for future cosmetics or skins to bear an effect on characters regardless of race and not arguing that the skin shouldn't be used for non-Argonians.
Changed the title because people keep taking the thread the wrong way. Lmao
Welcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
I play healers or DPS often for vet dungeons and trials (NA, CP810+). I play mostly elves or Argonians.
I primarily play Damage-Based stuff in PvP, but occasionally I'll play something tanky or got the heals.
I also love gaining more knowledge both metaphysical and mundane regarding TES lore.
I also occasionally role-play, but I prefer playing the game.
I play healers or DPS often for vet dungeons and trials (NA, CP810+). I play mostly elves or Argonians.
I primarily play Damage-Based stuff in PvP, but occasionally I'll play something tanky or got the heals.
I also love gaining more knowledge both metaphysical and mundane regarding TES lore.
I also occasionally role-play, but I prefer playing the game.
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Odovacar✭✭✭✭✭
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Why are non-Argonians able to use a skin which makes literally no sense for them to use (unless we're saying this is actor bodypaint or some temporary alteration spell), but Argonians aren't allowed to use things that make no sense for them to use? (I have an Argonian character who's an actor and would love to use fake beards on them.)
Can we make this a two-way thing? The idea of a feather beard or actual scars on an Argonian also sounds pretty cool.
I thought to myself when I just saw their announcement... this can only be on an Argonian. They need the love they have been getting lately, poor argonians…0 -
Claudman✭✭✭✭✭
Why are non-Argonians able to use a skin which makes literally no sense for them to use (unless we're saying this is actor bodypaint or some temporary alteration spell), but Argonians aren't allowed to use things that make no sense for them to use? (I have an Argonian character who's an actor and would love to use fake beards on them.)
Can we make this a two-way thing? The idea of a feather beard or actual scars on an Argonian also sounds pretty cool.
I thought to myself when I just saw their announcement... this can only be on an Argonian. They need the love they have been getting lately, poor argonians…
Seeing the skin on non-Argonians is kinda uncanny honestly (It's like a Khajiiti fur pattern on a Nord or Argonian...Eeeugh), but I guess they want it to be accessible to non-Argonian races because it's a Crown Crate reward? It makes sense considering the reception from the Storm Atronach crate, but it makes no absolute sense lorewise (and no, the Hist cannot change the form of a Human, Elf or Khajiit). If they want to make this a thing even though it makes sense, I just hope they make other things two-way...I.e. piercings, adornments or scars.
Surely they could've had it so it just made the throats bright of the Khajiit, Human or Elven characters? But...Then again, that would require a whole new set of transparent DDS files (textures).Edited by Claudman on December 4, 2018 4:42PMWelcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
I play healers or DPS often for vet dungeons and trials (NA, CP810+). I play mostly elves or Argonians.
I primarily play Damage-Based stuff in PvP, but occasionally I'll play something tanky or got the heals.
I also love gaining more knowledge both metaphysical and mundane regarding TES lore.
I also occasionally role-play, but I prefer playing the game.0 -
Radiance✭✭✭✭✭
✭Probably because character specific items don't sell as well, It was also explained somewhere (not sure where but remember reading) that not all Argonian's resemble lizards as you go deeper into black marsh...
I don't see how it's any more absurd than any of the other skins... I'm not personally a fan of any of them.
I do want the Moamer Fish skin tho...
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TiaFrye✭✭✭✭✭
✭Actually dislike these "skin for everyone" with specific skins like these argonian skins or famed Dro'Matra. If you're not a kajiit or not an argonian, u should not be able to wear them. Period. Glamour or not. Illusion or not. Breaks immersion A LOT.4 -
Claudman✭✭✭✭✭xxthir13enxx wrote: »You do realize the None of the Skins really make sense....
"(unless we're saying this is actor bodypaint or some temporary alteration spell)"
You could usually make the other skins make sense rather easily. Spiderkith skin could be a character who's actually a Spiderkith, Amberplasm skin can be used for Tree-Minders, etc.
So, I'll have to disagree on that. The point isn't necessarily that it makes no sense full-stop, it's just quite weird for non-Argonians to suddenly be able to use Argonian stuff. I'm just hoping that means new items for non-Argonians will be usable on Argonians.Edited by Claudman on December 4, 2018 5:02PMWelcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
I play healers or DPS often for vet dungeons and trials (NA, CP810+). I play mostly elves or Argonians.
I primarily play Damage-Based stuff in PvP, but occasionally I'll play something tanky or got the heals.
I also love gaining more knowledge both metaphysical and mundane regarding TES lore.
I also occasionally role-play, but I prefer playing the game.1 -
BWS2K✭✭✭I'll make you a deal - you let me put body markings on my Argonians without losing their flippin' scales, and I'll champion your Only Argonians Can Be Bright Throats cause.
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Claudman✭✭✭✭✭I'll make you a deal - you let me put body markings on my Argonians without losing their flippin' scales, and I'll champion your Only Argonians Can Be Bright Throats cause.
#argonian4life
AGREED
Except, that's not the cause I'm working towards. lolEdited by Claudman on December 4, 2018 5:00PMWelcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
I play healers or DPS often for vet dungeons and trials (NA, CP810+). I play mostly elves or Argonians.
I primarily play Damage-Based stuff in PvP, but occasionally I'll play something tanky or got the heals.
I also love gaining more knowledge both metaphysical and mundane regarding TES lore.
I also occasionally role-play, but I prefer playing the game.3 -
Sheezabeast✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Would peoples immersion be broken if they finally release that Maomer fish skin? I know a lot of people have been salivating for it to be released...Grand Master Crafter, Beta baby who grew with the game. PC/NA. @Sheezabeast if you have crafting needs!2 -
The Uninvited✭✭✭✭✭
✭Looks horrible anyway, like somebody threw 4 different cans of paint at you.Pandora's Promise (rip) | LND | Pactriotic | IKnowWhatUDidLastWinter's | The Uninvited |
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Claudman✭✭✭✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »Would peoples immersion be broken if they finally release that Maomer fish skin? I know a lot of people have been salivating for it to be released...
I know I have and no, not really since...
I want a Maormer man or woman on my roster. I would also love to have fishie ears for my Maormer like they do in Summerset, that'd be nice.Welcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
I play healers or DPS often for vet dungeons and trials (NA, CP810+). I play mostly elves or Argonians.
I primarily play Damage-Based stuff in PvP, but occasionally I'll play something tanky or got the heals.
I also love gaining more knowledge both metaphysical and mundane regarding TES lore.
I also occasionally role-play, but I prefer playing the game.2 -
Claudman✭✭✭✭✭The Uninvited wrote: »Looks horrible anyway, like somebody threw 4 different cans of paint at you.
Yeah, you wouldn't see my elves in this skin. I dare not taint their Ancestor-blessed, glorious form with such blasphemy.Edited by Claudman on December 4, 2018 5:17PMWelcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
I play healers or DPS often for vet dungeons and trials (NA, CP810+). I play mostly elves or Argonians.
I primarily play Damage-Based stuff in PvP, but occasionally I'll play something tanky or got the heals.
I also love gaining more knowledge both metaphysical and mundane regarding TES lore.
I also occasionally role-play, but I prefer playing the game.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭xxthir13enxx wrote: »You do realize the None of the Skins really make sense....
This pretty much. One can say it is whatever they want but lore does not make it body paint or a spell. It is just what it is.1 -
TiaFrye✭✭✭✭✭
✭xxthir13enxx wrote: »You do realize the None of the Skins really make sense....
This pretty much. One can say it is whatever they want but lore does not make it body paint or a spell. It is just what it is.
Actually newest one, frost skin, in it's description mentions (by mages guild member, yes) that you will not turn into frost atronach and it's just a glamour. Others I'm not aware of. My only skin will always be soul shriven (and the fact it does not displays at ur character at the begining with an explanation of ur fresh peachy look is a dissapointment).Edited by TiaFrye on December 4, 2018 5:50PM0 -
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✭It's a skin. A cosmetic addition to the game that they added to sell. You buy it or you don't. Why do other races other than Khajiit get the Dro-Mathra skin when it's entirely based around Khajiit lore. Why do light armor wearing characters get to look like heavy armor? Why allow Elves to wear Daedric armor when they are not Daedra? Why does the horse mount never blink? To sell the illusion that you can make your character look how you want apart from others in the game....other than the horse part. That is just creepy.Edited by Kuramas9tails on December 4, 2018 6:02PMYour friendly neighborhood crazy cat lady of ESO
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Claudman✭✭✭✭✭Kuramas9tails wrote: »It's a skin. A cosmetic addition to the game that they added to sell. You buy it or you don't. Why do other races other than Khajiit get the Dro-Mathra skin when it's entirely based around Khajiit lore. Why do light armor wearing characters get to look like heavy armor? Why allow Elves to wear Daedric armor when they are not Daedra? Why does the horse mount never blink? To sell the illusion that you can make your character look how you want apart from others in the game....other than the horse part. That is just creepy.
I think you are missing the point of my thread.
I'm asking for non-Argonian cosmetics to be available to Argonians in the future and simply commenting how weird it is for Argonian stuff to be usable for non-Argonians all of a sudden.Edited by Claudman on December 4, 2018 6:07PMWelcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
I play healers or DPS often for vet dungeons and trials (NA, CP810+). I play mostly elves or Argonians.
I primarily play Damage-Based stuff in PvP, but occasionally I'll play something tanky or got the heals.
I also love gaining more knowledge both metaphysical and mundane regarding TES lore.
I also occasionally role-play, but I prefer playing the game.0 -
TiaFrye✭✭✭✭✭
✭Kuramas9tails wrote: »It's a skin. A cosmetic addition to the game that they added to sell. You buy it or you don't. Why do other races other than Khajiit get the Dro-Mathra skin when it's entirely based around Khajiit lore. Why do light armor wearing characters get to look like heavy armor? Why allow Elves to wear Daedric armor when they are not Daedra? Why does the horse mount never blink? To sell the illusion that you can make your character look how you want apart from others in the game....other than the horse part. That is just creepy.
U can be apart and not break the lore. Ask body positive orc drag queens. Immersion is about something looking off in the world. Daedric armor on daedric worshipers is possible mind u. As any armor in general as long as it's not modern irl clothing. But these skins on other races another thing entirely.
And for OP's point, yes. At parts. I saw argonian with feather beard in Murkmire. Looked pretty. Hair I can't really imagine.0 -
TiaFrye✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm okay with fake beard on argonian as long as it have some visible strings attached. But I suspect I would be "too hard" to make. Ugh.0 -
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Why are non-Argonians able to use a skin which makes literally no sense for them to use (unless we're saying this is actor bodypaint or some temporary alteration spell), but Argonians aren't allowed to use things that make no sense for them to use? (I have an Argonian character who's an actor and would love to use fake beards on them.)
Can we make this a two-way thing? The idea of a feather beard or actual scars on an Argonian also sounds pretty cool.
EDIT: Yes, I do realize some other skins make no sense. That's not the topic of this thread. I'm asking for stuff which isn't race-locked like the Barbarian back which was only usable for humanoid races, but not beast races and vice versa.
Here is your feather beard
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Claudman✭✭✭✭✭Konstant_Tel_Necris wrote: »
Why are non-Argonians able to use a skin which makes literally no sense for them to use (unless we're saying this is actor bodypaint or some temporary alteration spell), but Argonians aren't allowed to use things that make no sense for them to use? (I have an Argonian character who's an actor and would love to use fake beards on them.)
Can we make this a two-way thing? The idea of a feather beard or actual scars on an Argonian also sounds pretty cool.
EDIT: Yes, I do realize some other skins make no sense. That's not the topic of this thread. I'm asking for stuff which isn't race-locked like the Barbarian back which was only usable for humanoid races, but not beast races and vice versa.
Here is your feather beard
I know.
Gimme.Welcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
I play healers or DPS often for vet dungeons and trials (NA, CP810+). I play mostly elves or Argonians.
I primarily play Damage-Based stuff in PvP, but occasionally I'll play something tanky or got the heals.
I also love gaining more knowledge both metaphysical and mundane regarding TES lore.
I also occasionally role-play, but I prefer playing the game.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭tbh, I think the idea of argonians being able to have beards and other similar items is not a good idea. Sure, you might have a handful of people that come up with some lore reason (actor) as why they do it, but for the most part people will just use it to make stupid looking stuff. Unless we are talking some sort of feather beards or something that fit the race of course. It is pretty lame having all argonians and now having a ton of stuff from crates and other various collections that are of absolutely no use to me.
That being said, It would be neat if skins like these were argonian only and should apply some other effect/look to non argonians, that way it is still useful to other races as an item of 'purchase'. That would require more work on zos' part though and don't see that happening. Especially considering the next point...
It's not really any different than whatever other alteration magic skins are used on characters anyhow (If a human can have dro mathra skin, lava skin, why not scaly skin, etc etc)- so with all the other weird skins in the game, it's a moot point.-- @xaraan --
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lardvader✭✭✭✭✭Sheezabeast wrote: »Would peoples immersion be broken if they finally release that Maomer fish skin? I know a lot of people have been salivating for it to be released...
I really want that skin!
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SydneyGrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭That skin is going to look terrible on anything except for an Argonian.
But it will look absolutely awesome on an Argonian.
*Wants*
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Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭xxthir13enxx wrote: »You do realize the None of the Skins really make sense....
"(unless we're saying this is actor bodypaint or some temporary alteration spell)"
You could usually make the other skins make sense rather easily. Spiderkith skin could be a character who's actually a Spiderkith, Amberplasm skin can be used for Tree-Minders, etc.
So, I'll have to disagree on that. The point isn't necessarily that it makes no sense full-stop, it's just quite weird for non-Argonians to suddenly be able to use Argonian stuff. I'm just hoping that means new items for non-Argonians will be usable on Argonians.
Well, it's not really fair to pick and choose your easy-to-explain skins, is it? Dro-M'athra? Sanctified Silver? Blood-Forged? Our newest addition - Crystalfrost? Or you want to say that Zombie skin is not hard to explain? And with Marshmist Paleskin we already have a good precedent of an Argonian-looking-scales skin for all races. Of course we can go on and talk about such gems as Infernal Epidermis and it's purple brother Z'Maja's Shadow skin.
And to be honest it's not good marketing to put a fancy skin for only argonians in the Crown Store. You want to sell more of them, not less.0 -
Claudman✭✭✭✭✭xxthir13enxx wrote: »You do realize the None of the Skins really make sense....
"(unless we're saying this is actor bodypaint or some temporary alteration spell)"
You could usually make the other skins make sense rather easily. Spiderkith skin could be a character who's actually a Spiderkith, Amberplasm skin can be used for Tree-Minders, etc.
So, I'll have to disagree on that. The point isn't necessarily that it makes no sense full-stop, it's just quite weird for non-Argonians to suddenly be able to use Argonian stuff. I'm just hoping that means new items for non-Argonians will be usable on Argonians.
Well, it's not really fair to pick and choose your easy-to-explain skins, is it? Dro-M'athra? Sanctified Silver? Blood-Forged? Our newest addition - Crystalfrost? Or you want to say that Zombie skin is not hard to explain? And with Marshmist Paleskin we already have a good precedent of an Argonian-looking-scales skin for all races. Of course we can go on and talk about such gems as Infernal Epidermis and it's purple brother Z'Maja's Shadow skin.
And to be honest it's not good marketing to put a fancy skin for only argonians in the Crown Store. You want to sell more of them, not less.
You're missing the point.EDIT: Yes, I do realize some other skins make no sense. That's not the topic of this thread. I'm asking for stuff which isn't race-locked like the Barbarian back which was only usable for humanoid races, but not beast races and vice versa.
Welcome, Moon-and-Star, to this place where destiny is made.
I play healers or DPS often for vet dungeons and trials (NA, CP810+). I play mostly elves or Argonians.
I primarily play Damage-Based stuff in PvP, but occasionally I'll play something tanky or got the heals.
I also love gaining more knowledge both metaphysical and mundane regarding TES lore.
I also occasionally role-play, but I prefer playing the game.0 -
Royaji✭✭✭✭✭
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Back to you.xxthir13enxx wrote: »You do realize the None of the Skins really make sense....
"(unless we're saying this is actor bodypaint or some temporary alteration spell)"
You could usually make the other skins make sense rather easily. Spiderkith skin could be a character who's actually a Spiderkith, Amberplasm skin can be used for Tree-Minders, etc.
So, I'll have to disagree on that. The point isn't necessarily that it makes no sense full-stop, it's just quite weird for non-Argonians to suddenly be able to use Argonian stuff. I'm just hoping that means new items for non-Argonians will be usable on Argonians.
Well, it's not really fair to pick and choose your easy-to-explain skins, is it? Dro-M'athra? Sanctified Silver? Blood-Forged? Our newest addition - Crystalfrost? Or you want to say that Zombie skin is not hard to explain? And with Marshmist Paleskin we already have a good precedent of an Argonian-looking-scales skin for all races. Of course we can go on and talk about such gems as Infernal Epidermis and it's purple brother Z'Maja's Shadow skin.
And to be honest it's not good marketing to put a fancy skin for only argonians in the Crown Store. You want to sell more of them, not less.
You're missing the point.EDIT: Yes, I do realize some other skins make no sense. That's not the topic of this thread. I'm asking for stuff which isn't race-locked like the Barbarian back which was only usable for humanoid races, but not beast races and vice versa.And to be honest it's not good marketing to put a fancy skin for only argonians in the Crown Store. You want to sell more of them, not less.
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