Gifts for crowns destroyed the world trade?

LikiLoki

After the innovation of legal sales of crowns for gold, the rates on merchants increased in business centers. Did you meet a guild without goods in Alinor or Mournhold? This now often happens. Now that financial inequality has moved from reality into the game, traders belong to those who bought them for real money. And whether there are active items lots in the guild does not matter.

Latios

For me, most guild traders are still very decent, specially in those areas you mentioned. In fact, I've never seen a 'guild without goods' in an elite area. If I'm looking for a specific item, TTC has the info for me. I'm also selling quite a lot in my guild, and we don't have one of those 'elite' kiosks.

Rates increasing, most likely, is due to inflation and higher competition for a same spot. Players in the game and gold increases, but the kiosks don't, except in every new DLC.

Honestly, it may happen in some situations, but that's certainly not the rule. I like the idea of crown trading for gold, I just don't like the lack of a system to do so. Right now, scams are too easy to happen.

reoskit

LikiLoki wrote: »

After the innovation of legal sales of crowns for gold, the rates on merchants increased in business centers. Did you meet a guild without goods in Alinor or Mournhold? This now often happens. Now that financial inequality has moved from reality into the game, traders belong to those who bought them for real money. And whether there are active items lots in the guild does not matter.

Out of curiosity, what platform are you on?

Watchdog

LikiLoki wrote: »

After the innovation of legal sales of crowns for gold, the rates on merchants increased in business centers. Did you meet a guild without goods in Alinor or Mournhold? This now often happens. Now that financial inequality has moved from reality into the game, traders belong to those who bought them for real money. And whether there are active items lots in the guild does not matter.

I may be wrong, but I thought it was not possible to gift Crowns directly.

Danikat

Honestly I don't think I'd notice if this was the case. I just go to whichever trader/s TTC says have the items I want rather than wasting my time hoping one nearby or in a major city will have the items I want at a reasonable price and making another wild guess if not.

Stuff I list in my guild store sells, but I couldn't tell you if we have a trader or where it is, or if my items are selling to other guild members or people outside the guild.

I've finally managed to reach a point where I can participating in trading without having to get involved in all this nonsense of fighting over traders or care about which spots/cities are best - I can just go to the trader which has the stuff I want wherever it is. A global trade system which would put everyone on an equal footing and make the kind of tricks the OP is worried about impossible would be better of course but I can't see ZOS ever doing that.

josiahva

Its the same as it always was...the big traders have more items.

Austinseph1

With TTC it’s an even playing field, without it the market system would be pretty broken.

AlienatedGoat

LikiLoki wrote: »

After the innovation of legal sales of crowns for gold, the rates on merchants increased in business centers. Did you meet a guild without goods in Alinor or Mournhold? This now often happens. Now that financial inequality has moved from reality into the game, traders belong to those who bought them for real money. And whether there are active items lots in the guild does not matter.

This isn't a thing. People don't sell (gift) crowns for gold and then use that gold to buy a trader and keep it empty.

In fact, the only guild I know of that does crown gifting and trading is TCE, and they definitely use their trader.

burglar

Austinseph1 wrote: »

With TTC it’s an even playing field, without it the market system would be pretty broken.

Yeah... all the great things on PC kind of offset just how terrible things are on console. Unfortunately, we don't have access to all these great things. As a matter of fact, I'm not sure why ESO+ is the same price for consoles as it is for PC. PC has many more features.

failkiwib16_ESO

Austinseph1 wrote: »

With TTC it’s an even playing field, without it the market system would be pretty broken.

@Austinseph1 how?
TTC allows people to scan guild pages, and the listed items get uploaded.
- note: someone can list 1 potato for 1,000,000g and TTC will show that, if someone with the addon scans that guild page. It is mainly useful for when you want a snowflake rare item that is hard to track down, and you are willing to pay between normal-to-over-price for it, since all the good deals are taken by the people who scanned the guild for TCC.

Master Merchant and Awesome Guildstore addons are much more helpful to figure out pricings.
-note: Master Merchant is useful when you are in multiple large trading guilds, otherwise it's pretty useless, since it only records the sales of the guilds you are in.
-note: AwesomeGuildstore doesn't show pricings of items, it only gives you a ton of filters, which makes it much easier to browse and search for items. When using this addon, you have to use your own memory when you want to get a good deal, however it is good for when you list items for sale. Always scan the guild and see the lowest price of the item you want to sell, then set yours lower (within reason).

@ProbablePaul TTC is very useful to console users, due to the website. You can browse through and get to know what trends up and down. It's the best you can get though, since you can't install addons, and console prices tend to be much higher than pc prices for a lot of stuff.
But let's say you want to sell something of worth, you don't know the worth of it - go to TTC website and search for the item, see if there are 3423434654 results - or you only get 3-4 results and they all rank 200k+ gold - that will teach you that the item you have, is common or rare ...and if rare, you should be careful not to set it for sale for a too low of a price.

Console trading is eye-watering >.<

burglar

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

TTC is very useful to console users, due to the website. You can browse through and get to know what trends up and down. It's the best you can get though, since you can't install addons, and console prices tend to be much higher than pc prices for a lot of stuff.
But let's say you want to sell something of worth, you don't know the worth of it - go to TTC website and search for the item, see if there are 3423434654 results - or you only get 3-4 results and they all rank 200k+ gold - that will teach you that the item you have, is common or rare ...and if rare, you should be careful not to set it for sale for a too low of a price.

Console trading is eye-watering >.<

That's true, and I do that sometimes. However, the buying/selling activity differs greatly between platforms - it often makes no sense to me on console. Like, trying to find a specific item can take hours given that there are only two filters to sort by. Also, I don't mean to go after the PC guys, but I can't help but notice how addons on PC create a disparity of concerns for game quality on consoles. If y'all didn't have addons, you would be with us in complaining for needed QoL changes, and they'd be more likely to be implemented. I mean, they implemented full controller support for pc, but they cant even give us the ability to map buttons, even though it's our native method of navigating in the game. They seem to be ok with console users relying on accessibility features that are built-in to the console to remap buttons. But, I digress...

Austinseph1

Master merchant only helps depending on how many guild slots you use for trading guilds. MM may be slightly more acurate for pricing but TTC is a good attempt at what pretty much all MMO’s have built in. I have no problem getting great deals and knowing exactly where to find them. It gets scanned if the seller puts it up if they use TTC and trade guilds can have a trader for less money and still rake in a ton because of a search function. If TTC didn’t exist then traders in good areas would be even more expensive.

failkiwib16_ESO

@ProbablePaul I used to complain about the lack of much needed features in the game, however I gave up and started downloading third party programs we call addons.
I hate the fact that I felt a need to use addons, if I wanted to continue playing the game beyond the solo questing part. Some of my guildies got virus from updating their current addons. They really don't replace a decent UI and interface, they just make a poopy one beareable...

I don't recommend anyone to play ESO on consoles, unless you intend to play solo, very casually and stick to yourself. Anything advanced and it becomes a nightmare due to lack of basic tools and options.

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In regard to trading, let's say you get a staff you want to sell. Search on TTC website to see if that staff is worth anything on pc. If you get 545645 results and they all sell between 300g-500g then it's a common item, if you only get 2 results and they both range between 300k and 500k gold, then it's a rare and wanted item, and you should do the eye-watering search on consoles to find the worth of it, before setting it up for sale.

TTC can also be used to find out what's worth of materials. If you want to sell iron ore and you have no clue what it's worth, search for it on TTC website, then search for iron ingots - see the price difference, if ore is more worth than ingots - go do the eye-watering search on consoles to find out the real price of ore, before you set it up for sale.

Wanna sell flowers? Search for different flowers on TTC, see what majority of players sell theirs for, notice price differences and see which ones are worth selling for profit.

It's not much, but it's better than staying clueless in the console world.
It's just a huge hassle if all you want is to play a game lol same goes for pc users. We really don't have it good, we're just better off than consoles.