Official Discussion Thread for "Introducing the Xanmeer Crown Crate Season"

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

This is the official discussion thread for the Introducing the Xanmeer Crown Crate Season blog article.

Uncover the wild and wonderful antiquities of the deep swamp with the all-new Xanmeer Crown Crates. Preview some of the colorful and unique items you can acquire from the latest Crown Crate season right here.

Here's a full list of all the new rewards contained in the Xanmeer Crown Crates:

Radiant Apex Rewards

Scorching Horse-Lizard
Venomous Wolf-Lizard
Chilling Senche-Lizard

Apex Rewards

Wolf-Lizard Steed
Senche-Lizard Steed
Guar-Lizard Steed
Camel-Lizard Steed
Bear-Lizard Steed
Horse-Lizard Steed
Resplendent Sweetroll

Legendary Rewards

Voriplasm Sword Outfit style
Voriplasm Battle Axe Outfit style
Voriplasm Bow Outfit style
Voriplasm Staff Outfit style
Hist Guar
Nightfall Sabre Cat
Nightfall Sabre Cat Cub
Lustrous Nix-Ox Fabricant Steed
Firepet Spider
Bright-Throat Scale
Dead-Water Scale
Vossa-satl
Gas Blossom
Lantern Mantis
Static Pitcher
Instant All Research, Major
Grand Gold Coast Experience Scroll

Epic Rewards

Sep Adder
Marshlord Formal Bugshell Robes
Lizardly Four-Fabric Skirt Set
Xanmeer Doyen's Worship Robe
Xanmeer Doyen's Feather Tiara
Dead-Water Blood Face Tattoos
Dead-Water Blood Body Tattoos
Daemon Chicken
Riverwood White Hen
Kaleidotropic Dragon Frog
Butterscotch Dragon Frog
Sep Adder
Marshlord Formal Bugshell Robes
Instant All Research
Major Gold Coast Experience Scroll

Superior Rewards

Craglorn Welwa
Amber Ash Hopper
Bitter Coast Cliff Strider
Bright-Throat Chalk Face Tattoo
Bright-Throat Chalk Body Tattoo
Bright-Throat Woad Face Tattoo
Bright-Throat Woad Body Tattoo
Bright-Throat Algae Face Tattoo
Bright-Throat Algae Body Tattoo
Bright-Throat Yolk Face Tattoo
Bright-Throat Yolk Body Tattoo
Dead-Water Tooth-and-Tusk Tiara
Bonding Rite Headdress
Mire Drum

Fine Rewards

Forest: Sand and Moss
Forest: First Seed Swamp
Alchemical: Forest Outlaw Opaques
Alchemical: Viridian Sentinel
Alchemical: Lichen and Fern
Alchemical: Green Winter Wheat
Crown Combat Mystic's Stew
Crown Vigorous Ragout
Crown Stout Magic Liqueur
Crown Vigorous Tincture
Gold Coast Experience Scroll
Crown Soul Gem
Crown Repair Kit
Crown Lesson: Riding Capacity
Crown Lesson: Riding Speed
Crown Lesson: Riding Stamina

Common Rewards

Crown Tri-Restoration Potion
Gold Coast Survivor Elixir
Gold Coast Spellcaster Elixir
Gold Coast Warrior Elixir
Gold Coast Swift Survivor Elixir
Crown Lethal Poison
Gold Coast Enfeebling Poison
Gold Coast Trapping Poison
Gold Coast Draining Poison
Gold Coast Debilitating Poison
Crown Mimic Stone

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Alex_Lex

Hey, ZOS, did you know you can sell tonns of those crates if you include lagless Cyro or Improved performance inside?

BWS2K

Ok, so I have to ask - will the Deadwater body markings be able to display over the Deadwater skins? Because that's definitely in my top five wishes (skins would still allow body markings).

TiaFrye

Need. All. The. Chicken.

Aliyavana

Please atleast give the lizard mounts their argonian names. Lizard-guar sound funny

Jaeysa

Sep adder's in there twice - is that supposed to be something else?

VaranisArano

Two questions.

So, no crates for logging in? Or did I miss that somewhere?

And did the Four-Fabric skirt ever get its leg mesh glitch fixed?

olsborg

Alex_Lex wrote: »

Hey, ZOS, did you know you can sell tonns of those crates if you include lagless Cyro or Improved performance inside?

This is actually why I dont play eso, and therefore dont buy crates....anymore.

SantieClaws

VaranisArano wrote: »

Two questions.

So, no crates for logging in? Or did I miss that somewhere?

And did the Four-Fabric skirt ever get its leg mesh glitch fixed?

This new approach of no free crates won't have the effect they think it will this one thinks.

The thinking of the coin counters seems to be "too many gems out there = not enough crate sales".

One does not automatically follow the other no …

Perhaps it is worth considering that travellers, industry wide, have opened their eyes to the true value of crates of all kinds. Maybe that is why they may sell less than they desire presently?

Perhaps this is not the business model of your dreams after all?

You won't increase sales of crates by limiting ones given away - all you are doing is losing ESO Plus subs because some travellers feel that is being devalued and that the new store section does not really offer an equitable replacement no.

The more travellers you keep happy in Tamriel, by whatever means, then the bigger customer base you have to show your wares to. The potential income from that far outweighs giving away a few crates every month or so no?

Your coin counters perhaps need a good long lesson from a khajiiti merchant or two because sometimes they seem to keep their business wits behind their ears!

Yours with paws
Santie Claws

RaddlemanNumber7

Jaeysa wrote: »

Sep adder's in there twice - is that supposed to be something else?

Marshlord Formal Bug Robe is duplicated too.

jypcy

RaddlemanNumber7 wrote: »

Jaeysa wrote: »

Sep adder's in there twice - is that supposed to be something else?

Marshlord Formal Bug Robe is duplicated too.

Hoping one of those is meant to be the brassy assassin personality because hey, why not.

Radiance

These Lizard mounts are nice but not exactly my style...
I'm kinda bummed nobody thought to make a pet out of one of those Freaky Murkmire Plants, I'd buy that!

Crimsonorion

Still no Daedric Statues, tapestries or Banners? Never got Meridia

RMerlin

SantieClaws wrote: »

You won't increase sales of crates by limiting ones given away - all you are doing is losing ESO Plus subs because some travellers feel that is being devalued and that the new store section does not really offer an equitable replacement no.

They do give a good amount of crowns tho, which can be used to buy crates for "free". From an accounting point of view this does look better, as they can be counted as sales (since crowns are spent), unlike straight freebies that aren't accounted for in any way.

But I admit that, personally, I'm very unlikely to spend my free crowns on crates.

Radiance

RMerlin wrote: »

SantieClaws wrote: »

You won't increase sales of crates by limiting ones given away - all you are doing is losing ESO Plus subs because some travellers feel that is being devalued and that the new store section does not really offer an equitable replacement no.

They do give a good amount of crowns tho, which can be used to buy crates for "free". From an accounting point of view this does look better, as they can be counted as sales (since crowns are spent), unlike straight freebies that aren't accounted for in any way.

But I admit that, personally, I'm very unlikely to spend my free crowns on crates.

"FREE" would imply that there was no payment involved...
STOP SAYING THOSE CROWNS ARE FREE. IF YOU PAID FOR IT, IT'S NOT "FREE"

StormChaser3000

My best guess is that this (disappearance of free crates) is related to the implementation of the gifting option. I believe ZOS wants to primarily milk its whales. There are always people who are ready to pay real money for gold. Now let's see:

1. Those who never buy crates but got used to the free ones are being cut off from the supply.
What do they do?
2. Some of them will start searching for whales so to trade their gold for crowns.
3. Whales pay real money for the crates and gift them to the mentioned gold sellers.
4. ZOS gets money from crates sales that would probably never happen otherwise.

Edit: Some people say that this will hurt ESO+ sales. Yes, it will, but we do not know how much additional money gifting business model brings. Maybe it brings more money that they lose from subscriptions. We can only guess at the moment.

tonemd

Bear Lizard
Senche Lizard
Horse Lizard
Wolf Lizard

Would it have been THAT hard to put a saddle on a wamasu?

nerfworthy

The Daemon Cockerel came from the hollowjack crates, now there is a Daemon Chicken for 40 gems instead of 100 ? Is this a different pet?

Svenja

so hyped to buy this abomination with the gems i have saved up. Just looking at the picture makes me laugh incontrollably until I cry, so why not.

Kingslayer513

tonemd wrote: »

Bear Lizard
Senche Lizard
Horse Lizard
Wolf Lizard

Would it have been THAT hard to put a saddle on a wamasu?

Exactly. This is pure laziness. Camel Lizard, good grief. People wanted to ride wamasu, instead they got these ugly abominations. They look like deformed mutants that escaped from a lab.

RMerlin

Radiance wrote: »

RMerlin wrote: »

SantieClaws wrote: »

You won't increase sales of crates by limiting ones given away - all you are doing is losing ESO Plus subs because some travellers feel that is being devalued and that the new store section does not really offer an equitable replacement no.

They do give a good amount of crowns tho, which can be used to buy crates for "free". From an accounting point of view this does look better, as they can be counted as sales (since crowns are spent), unlike straight freebies that aren't accounted for in any way.

But I admit that, personally, I'm very unlikely to spend my free crowns on crates.

"FREE" would imply that there was no payment involved...
STOP SAYING THOSE CROWNS ARE FREE. IF YOU PAID FOR IT, IT'S NOT "FREE"

You`re playing with semantics. Those crowns are a bonus added to your ESO+ membership. The word "free" is used here simply to indicate you did not buy them explicitly. That does not change the point I was making - they increased the amount of crowns you get in your subscription, these can be used to obtain crates.

EDIT: and I did put the word "free" in quotes in my message to indicate it has a particular meaning...

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

BWS2K wrote: »

Ok, so I have to ask - will the Deadwater body markings be able to display over the Deadwater skins? Because that's definitely in my top five wishes (skins would still allow body markings).

Just checked with the team and it sounds like these ones do not stack. The body markings are hidden by the skin.

LordLomax

Is it me or does the Legendary rewards especially the mounts look really bad/watered down this season as I normally always prefer it but weapons and recycled mounts.

NDReptiles

It's unfortunate. I really like the lizard mounts, but I refuse to buy gambling crates to get them. The odds of getting what I want stink.

Jayne_Doe

StormChaser3000 wrote: »

My best guess is that this (disappearance of free crates) is related to the implementation of the gifting option. I believe ZOS wants to primarily milk its whales. There are always people who are ready to pay real money for gold. Now let's see:

1. Those who never buy crates but got used to the free ones are being cut off from the supply.
What do they do?
2. Some of them will start searching for whales so to trade their gold for crowns.
3. Whales pay real money for the crates and gift them to the mentioned gold sellers.
4. ZOS gets money from crates sales that would probably never happen otherwise.

Edit: Some people say that this will hurt ESO+ sales. Yes, it will, but we do not know how much additional money gifting business model brings. Maybe it brings more money that they lose from subscriptions. We can only guess at the moment.

Are people really unsubbing because they aren't getting free crates from ESO trial events? Seriously? Most of the time you get junk, and only occasionally will you get lucky. I'd rather just get free stuff outright, like they're doing now. Sure, I may not always want the item, but I certainly didn't want even half the stuff I got from the free crates.

I'm guessing that they didn't get as many people like me, who never bought crates, to start buying them once they got a few gems and started paying more attention to what was in the crates. I bought stuff with the gems I got from the consumables and duplicate collectibles, which was great. But it never got me to start gambling with my money.

Will I miss the free crates? Sure, they're fun to open and see what's inside, if they're free. But most of the time I ended up disappointed with what I got. We may still get some as daily rewards in the future, but that'll be it for me, since I'm on console, so I don't get Twitch drops, except on a couple of occasions.

Luckily, there isn't even one thing I want from these crates. A handful I wouldn't mind getting from a free crate, but there's nothing here I actually want (that I didn't already buy outright). The mounts are HIDEOUS and I would never use those FUGLY skins either.

Oh...and to answer @VaranisArano - they did fix the skirt on the Argonian costume. I have it and it looks fine now.

Jaimeh

Oh no, I was hoping the Bright Throat skin would not be put behind crates... I was really looking forward to it, and was hoping it would be a direct sale in the CS...

VaranisArano

Jayne_Doe wrote: »

StormChaser3000 wrote: »

My best guess is that this (disappearance of free crates) is related to the implementation of the gifting option. I believe ZOS wants to primarily milk its whales. There are always people who are ready to pay real money for gold. Now let's see:

1. Those who never buy crates but got used to the free ones are being cut off from the supply.
What do they do?
2. Some of them will start searching for whales so to trade their gold for crowns.
3. Whales pay real money for the crates and gift them to the mentioned gold sellers.
4. ZOS gets money from crates sales that would probably never happen otherwise.

Edit: Some people say that this will hurt ESO+ sales. Yes, it will, but we do not know how much additional money gifting business model brings. Maybe it brings more money that they lose from subscriptions. We can only guess at the moment.

Are people really unsubbing because they aren't getting free crates from ESO trial events? Seriously? Most of the time you get junk, and only occasionally will you get lucky. I'd rather just get free stuff outright, like they're doing now. Sure, I may not always want the item, but I certainly didn't want even half the stuff I got from the free crates.

I'm guessing that they didn't get as many people like me, who never bought crates, to start buying them once they got a few gems and started paying more attention to what was in the crates. I bought stuff with the gems I got from the consumables and duplicate collectibles, which was great. But it never got me to start gambling with my money.

Will I miss the free crates? Sure, they're fun to open and see what's inside, if they're free. But most of the time I ended up disappointed with what I got. We may still get some as daily rewards in the future, but that'll be it for me, since I'm on console, so I don't get Twitch drops, except on a couple of occasions.

Luckily, there isn't even one thing I want from these crates. A handful I wouldn't mind getting from a free crate, but there's nothing here I actually want (that I didn't already buy outright). The mounts are HIDEOUS and I would never use those FUGLY skins either.

Oh...and to answer @VaranisArano - they did fix the skirt on the Argonian costume. I have it and it looks fine now.

Thanks for the info! Glad to hear it got fixed.

VaranisArano

Kingslayer513 wrote: »

tonemd wrote: »

Bear Lizard
Senche Lizard
Horse Lizard
Wolf Lizard

Would it have been THAT hard to put a saddle on a wamasu?

Exactly. This is pure laziness. Camel Lizard, good grief. People wanted to ride wamasu, instead they got these ugly abominations. They look like deformed mutants that escaped from a lab.

This thread is too brilliant not to pull up from the depths of 2015: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/192914/brilliant-idea

Messy1 wrote: »

Behold . . . I present to you the "War Wamasu" for you and your friends!!!

BWS2K

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

BWS2K wrote: »

Ok, so I have to ask - will the Deadwater body markings be able to display over the Deadwater skins? Because that's definitely in my top five wishes (skins would still allow body markings).

Just checked with the team and it sounds like these ones do not stack. The body markings are hidden by the skin.

I drown in a river of sorrows and my spines sag with longing for that which one cannot have, but my scales glisten slightly at your timely response. Please let the team know that if there's anything I or my tribe can do to hasten the manifestation of simultaneous body markings and skins, it will be done fast-fast with utmost moistness and glee!

rook3162005

This is the final nail in the coffin for me. I don't know how dumb a company can be and still make money. I have been waiting to throw my money at ZOS for a while now. But haven't been able to.

I hoped during the Black Fredas sale that I'd be able to buy Tel Galen, but nope. Just about every other house besides that one came back. So, I thought, well...at least theres still the Undaunted Event.

Then that event comes out, with so many bugs that it can't be played 2-3 of the 5 days. And then once we did get to play, the drop rate on anything other than Motif pages was so low, that it wasn't worth doing. Not to mention they lied about costumes and mounts being included.

So, I thought...at least I'll be able to buy a new Daedric Prince statue in the upcoming crown crates. Since I love collecting them. But again...nope. They didn't even include one! Hallowjack disnt have one either. We haven't gotten a new statue since the Psijic crates in the summer! There are 17 princes. Would it be that hard to include one in each new crate season? It would keep me and others spending money.

I'm sorry for the long rant, but I've just had enough. I've never seen a company that has things people want to buy, are willing to blow hundreds of dollars on, but they aren't willing to sell that stuff. It just boggles my mind.

TheCabbageborn

Svenja wrote: »

so hyped to buy this abomination with the gems i have saved up. Just looking at the picture makes me laugh incontrollably until I cry, so why not.

straight out of Cronenberg

I'm going to get it