Experienced DD wants to tank for event

Marcus684

I’m a long time player with almost 1000 CP and have always queued for dungeons as a stamDK DD, but am considering switching to tanking for the upcoming Undaunted event just to improve queue times. My question is, what easily farmable or craftable sets can I throw on to be able to tank normal dungeons? I’m not going to bother trying to tank harder content, I just want to speed up my (and everyone else’s) queue times and not be one of those hated “fake tanks”.

Sheezabeast

You could go with Bloodspawn 2 piece, 5 Ebon, and 5 Hist Bark Ebon is easy to farm.

kathandira

Marcus684 wrote: »

I’m a long time player with almost 1000 CP and have always queued for dungeons as a stamDK DD, but am considering switching to tanking for the upcoming Undaunted event just to improve queue times. My question is, what easily farmable or craftable sets can I throw on to be able to tank normal dungeons? I’m not going to bother trying to tank harder content, I just want to speed up my (and everyone else’s) queue times and not be one of those hated “fake tanks”.

Plague Doctor from Deshaan.

Fortified Brass (Crafted) From CWC.

Taleof2Cities

Torug’s is craftable and Ebon Armory is pretty straightforward to farm.

Bonus points if you have Chudan, Lord Warden, or Bloodspawn sitting in the bank.

Rebirthment

You can farm Ebon armor from Crypt of hearts 1 and 2 as both are pretty easy dungeons to farm and the health bonus set effect is popular among tanks.

There is also the Plague doctor set that bumps up your max HP by quite a bit by farming overland in Deshaan or you can buy it straight from guild traders if you're willing to spend some gold.

EDIT: Just refreshed the page and didn't see the first few posts above me. But I guess it goes to show how recommended the set is

ArchMikem

kathandira wrote: »

Marcus684 wrote: »

I’m a long time player with almost 1000 CP and have always queued for dungeons as a stamDK DD, but am considering switching to tanking for the upcoming Undaunted event just to improve queue times. My question is, what easily farmable or craftable sets can I throw on to be able to tank normal dungeons? I’m not going to bother trying to tank harder content, I just want to speed up my (and everyone else’s) queue times and not be one of those hated “fake tanks”.

Plague Doctor from Deshaan.

Fortified Brass (Crafted) From CWC.

There's actually a few crafted sets alone without even going into the dropped overland sets like Plague Doctor and Green Pact. But what ^ said is good. Just remember though to actually Tank as well. Keep aggro, keep the boss in one place etc.

Try looking into Akaviri Dragonguard you get from one of the Skyrim zones...i forget. But it cheapens everyone's Ultimate so that's good support gear.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

Have you tanked before? Because just gearing up for the event will still make you a 'fake tank'.

AcadianPaladin

As a stam DK, I'll guess that tanking will tax your magicka as you will likely want to use talons and chains alot. To counter your magicka drain here are some things you might consider:
SeducersX5 in heavy armor will help the magicka drain.
Using the Fighters Guild crossbow morph that pulls adds in to you since is is a stam skill whereas chains is a mag skill.
Using the stam morph of the undaunted ranged taunt.

Happily, your main melee taunt from the S&B skills is a stam skill.

FlyingSwan

Tanking normals is easy with a max CP char that is DD focused. I have a max CP DD NB that tanks vet dungeons to run pledges or farm jewellery (so the queue pops quickly) and he wears Plague Doctor and Torugs Pact, the latter of which I can craft. You could craft a mixture of Torugs and Fortified Brass, simply to get geared up. You only need to make blue, or even green, rings in one set as you're running normals.

In fact, I usually wear my medium DD set and Plague Drs combined when this char tanks normals, so I get the survivability but also can deal some damage to make the dungeon pass faster. At max CP you don't really need to go fully heavy for normals, just make sure you have both taunts and a self-heal, you could solo a normal anyway.

For my monster set I use the one that spins the webs that pull in the adds, can't remember the name, helps with pulling all the mobs to me, I CC them with caltrops and melt them with ST. I slot Vigor too, so I don't really need any other team members in normals but they are always welcome for the ride ;-)

I'll certainly be farming the event with this char in normals, I leave my 'proper' tank for vet trials.

Acrolas

Torug's/Warrior-Poet with a Crusher glyph on your weapon and any taunt should ease you through any normal dungeon as a basic tank, provided that your damage dealers attack more than than the Crusher glyph does.

But you could absolutely make a damage stacking heavy armor build so long as you include a taunt as protocol. Some people will want to run up to 15 characters daily during the event so efficiency in burning everything down might be preferred over strict traditional roles like you'd want in veteran content.

Sevn

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Have you tanked before? Because just gearing up for the event will still make you a 'fake tank'.

So a person who is wearing tank gear and actually taunting and tanking the dungeon, is a fake tank because they are new to it? So every tank who never tanked before was a fake tank? Wow.

Tanking normals is easy, my frost tank is soloing them and I even carried a group of lowbies thru MoS. Been tanking less than a week when I did it. Gtfoh with that bs.

Swomp23

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Have you tanked before? Because just gearing up for the event will still make you a 'fake tank'.

Absolutely disagree. I made the switch myself during the Halloween event to farm exp, on both my stam DK and stamSorc. Just spend a little time reading online to learn the ropes and you're good to go.

As long as you taunt and don't die easily, you're a real mfing tank.

P.S. If you want to try tanking too, read this : https://woeler.eu/tanking-eso-beginners-guide/

idk

Ebon and Akavari (Dragon) with one each Chokethorn and Shadowrend. You will have decent mag regen for obsidian shield, chains and talons. If you want to go true tank.

Either that or some sort of dps/tank build I am sure someone will offer a suggestion.

I would suggest to only queue for normal dungeons either way. You will still get some groups that will require patience but it still much easier than dealing with what is sometimes found in vet dungeons.

In the end you will probably find some decent players but you will also just as likely understand why most decent tanks avoid GF.

FlyingSwan

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Have you tanked before? Because just gearing up for the event will still make you a 'fake tank'.

Simply not true, the normals are pure faceroll for any max CP build to tank. In a normal any char can be a genuine tank by just slotting one of the taunts and switching to a set with more than the usual HP for some survivability. The boss will usually be dead before the first application of the taunt even wears off and the small amounts of damage arising in this short fight can be self-healed with Vigor or whatever.

All my chars have a tank load-out in Dressing Room so I can farm normals for sets or run pledges on the non-DLC vet dungeons, you don't need to specialise with CP or higher end farmed sets until you get to the newer vet-DLC or vet trials.

OP will find it a doozy as a max-CP char.

VaranisArano

The biggest thing you want is to decide which taunt you want to use. In my experience, an experienced player who knows the mechanics can tank normal dungeons in their DD gear as long as they have a taunt and don't stand in stupid (I could do DLC Dungeons but YMMV about what you are comfortable with risking)

If you want to taunt and debuff, you'll want a One Hand and Shield so you can use Puncture. Torug's Pact is a good crafted set that synergizes well with a debuff tank.

If you want to use magicka to taunt, you'll want Inner Fire from the Undaunted Line or the Ice Staff with the Tri-focus passive. I found Ice Staff to be most useful on builds that were otherwise limited for Crowd Control options, as Ice Blockade filled in nicely. (Inner Fire also has a stamina morph which is a good ranged taunt for stam builds.)

If you want to use a charge ability to taunt, you'll want the Tormentor set.

So my recommendation for "training wheels" for a tank is Whitestrake's Retribution. Its a crafted set that gives you a large damage shield at 30% health which is perfect for saving a learning tank from mistakes or taking a hit for you when you have to rez your party from a wipe.

I've had very good luck leveling magicka tanks with a 1H&S front bar/ Ice Staff back bar.

Acrolas

You know fake tanks because they run bosses in gigantic loops like a middle school 12 minute mile.

I sincerely apologize for the sudden flashbacks to both a bad PUG and to middle school.

casparian

Marcus684 wrote: »

tank normal dungeon

In tanking normal dungeons, my biggest concern isn't survivability, since with max CP you're rarely going to be in danger of dying in a normal dungeon if you know what you're doing. Instead, when I pug tank normal dungeons, my biggest concern is how much damage and utility I can contribute as a tank, since 75% of the time I'm stuck with two DDs who pull about 10K DPS each. In your situation, I highly recommend you convert to magDK for the event, slap on a shield and a staff, and enjoy a much more active tanking experience than tanking vet content will typically give you.

My favorite build for pugging normal dungeons on my DK is:

- Lord Warden (helps keep squishy pugs alive)
- Heavy Torug's
- Spinner's (since the team won't have full penetration buffs)
- 1H/shield front bar: Ransack, Burning Embers/Draw Essence, Absorb Magicka/Igneous Shield, Volatile Armor, Coag Blood, Magma Shell (just in case the whole team is super bad)
- Lightning staff back bar (crusher enchant): Blockade of Storms, Eruption, Chains, Inner Fire, Talons, Warhorn/Meteor/Destro Ult

My "rotation" is to lay down Blockade of Storms and Eruption, chain in any ranged enemies, Talons the mob I've gathered around me, then go to front bar to apply taunts and Burning Embers. Survivability comes from Burning Embers/Deep Breath, selective blocking, and of course Coag Blood in a pinch. That's all you need in normals.

OneKhajiitCrimeWave

Depends on whether you're looking at the potential to continue tanking in the future as to what to grab, and whether you want to push vet content too.

If you know groups farming nCR then jump in and grab some Aegis of Galenwe. Paor it with Plague Doctor and Lord Warden and you'll be a VERY solid tank for pretty much any 4 man content, normal or vet.

Some of the current tanks in my guilds got started simply by wanting to try their hands at it after being DPS or healers mainly and then got addicted to tanking as their main role.

VaranisArano

Acrolas wrote: »

You know fake tanks because they run bosses in gigantic loops like a middle school 12 minute mile.

I sincerely apologize for the sudden flashbacks to both a bad PUG and to middle school.

I usually find out about the fake tank when the boss develops a sudden and inexorable hatred for my healer.

Marcus684

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Have you tanked before? Because just gearing up for the event will still make you a 'fake tank'.

Yeah I get the whole “queue as a tank but no taunt” complaint, so I’m not just swapping out gear, but I also plan on respecing CPs and adding taunts/group buffs/debuffs to make a real go at it. I plan on being a noob tank, not a fake one.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour

Marcus684 wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Have you tanked before? Because just gearing up for the event will still make you a 'fake tank'.

Yeah I get the whole “queue as a tank but no taunt” complaint, so I’m not just swapping out gear, but I also plan on respecing CPs and adding taunts/group buffs/debuffs to make a real go at it. I plan on being a noob tank, not a fake one.

I can respect that.

Kanar

Lul @ farming ebon to tank normal dungs. Wtf guys come on. Are you serious? You could tank normal dungs in non-set armor without enchantments.

Kanar

Marcus684 wrote: »

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Have you tanked before? Because just gearing up for the event will still make you a 'fake tank'.

Yeah I get the whole “queue as a tank but no taunt” complaint, so I’m not just swapping out gear, but I also plan on respecing CPs and adding taunts/group buffs/debuffs to make a real go at it. I plan on being a noob tank, not a fake one.

I tank vet dungeons without respeccing CP. Just craft some heavy torug's and put on sword & board front with maelstrom bow backbar. You'll be fine.

Facefister

Marcus684 wrote: »

I’m a long time player with almost 1000 CP and have always queued for dungeons as a stamDK DD, but am considering switching to tanking for the upcoming Undaunted event just to improve queue times. My question is, what easily farmable or craftable sets can I throw on to be able to tank normal dungeons? I’m not going to bother trying to tank harder content, I just want to speed up my (and everyone else’s) queue times and not be one of those hated “fake tanks”.

Get a greatsword, slot Brawler and Inner Fire, win. Easy tanking of non-DLC vets without getting killed by trash or boss.

ATomiX96

Plague, Dragon, Bloodspawn

Onefrkncrzypope

Marcus684 wrote: »

I’m a long time player with almost 1000 CP and have always queued for dungeons as a stamDK DD, but am considering switching to tanking for the upcoming Undaunted event just to improve queue times. My question is, what easily farmable or craftable sets can I throw on to be able to tank normal dungeons? I’m not going to bother trying to tank harder content, I just want to speed up my (and everyone else’s) queue times and not be one of those hated “fake tanks”.

If just normal random que(I'ma get hate) hundings heavy torugs jewels white. Run one crusher one poison dw. Just have a taunt for boss and talons for adds and just dps normally and block boss's heavies. You aren't fake you can dps and since it's normal no need for sword and board.

If vet randos I would recommend a really real tank build because of dlcs.

Jeremy

Marcus684 wrote: »

I’m a long time player with almost 1000 CP and have always queued for dungeons as a stamDK DD, but am considering switching to tanking for the upcoming Undaunted event just to improve queue times. My question is, what easily farmable or craftable sets can I throw on to be able to tank normal dungeons? I’m not going to bother trying to tank harder content, I just want to speed up my (and everyone else’s) queue times and not be one of those hated “fake tanks”.

For normal dungeons just heavy armor and a taunt would probably more than suffice. You are already a Dragon Knight, which gives you an early advantage for tanking.

I would recommend having some form of self-healing though. A lot of pug healers are.... let us say less than impressive. Even the ones who do know how to heal tend to drop like flies. So in my experience being self-sufficient is useful as a tank. Though that's likely not going to be as much of a problem on normal difficulty - which quite frankly is a joke for high level characters.

Fortified Brass
Leeching
Plague Doctor
Warrior Poet
Iron Blood
Twice Born Star

Those are some of the sets I have used and liked on my tank.

As far as Monster Helmets, I like Valkyn Skoria when I tank. It gives a nice bit of free offense and added health. Though if you use Iron Blood I'd recommend trying out that Pirate one. It makes a nice combo with that one.

vgabor

If you're not experienced at tanking the following will get you through even the dlc dungeons (and makes you effectively immortal in easy normal dungeons), it's rather on the safe side while you get some experience with tanking:

5pc Plague Doctor (jewelry + chest + legs) + 5pc Shacklebreaker (rest body + weap + shield) + 1pc Domihaus + 1pc Chudan or Warden

Shackle and domi are great help, because you need both magicka and stamina (generally you want to reserve stam for blocking and s&b melee taunt, while casting buffs/spells and ranged taunt from magicka), would recommend 5/1/1 if you have the undaunted passives (have some small pieces in light and med)

Two S&B bar:
main bar: Puncture (Pierce armor), Fiery grip (Unrelenting grip), Inner fire, Talon, Shield charge (Shield assault), 1 flex ult
backbar: Low slash (Heric slash), Dragon blood (Green), Spiked armor (Volatile), Defensive posture (Absorb magic), Vigor, War horn (Aggressive)

(ie: main bar for offensive: taunts, chain, cc, and shield charge for opening and for teleporting bosses, backbar for buffs and def posture slotted for passive help to blocking, and with greenbood+vigor you're fine with crappy pug healers)

Enchants: crusher on mainbar, wekening on backbar, both infused.

CP, I don't think you need to change anything in blue or red (apart from putting 11 points into quick recovery to get the first passive in lord) in green you want both arcanist and mooncalf fairly high and have some in tenacity as well, and lso 40+ in shadow ward for block cost reduction.

For potion most of the time a simple stam potion will do, for harder bosses you can craft some health+stam+immovable potion.

Weakness of the above build is that you have very low damage and will depend on the dds for killing the mobs, on the pro side you are able to face tank all dungeon, including dlc bosses too, and can even try vet if you like.

MythrialDrow

What’s a fake tank? I’ve queued in normal before and the dungeon was completed. It doesn’t matter with normal .

VaranisArano

Kanar wrote: »

Lul @ farming ebon to tank normal dungs. Wtf guys come on. Are you serious? You could tank normal dungs in non-set armor without enchantments.

Ebon is not necessary to tank normal dungeons.

Ebon is excellent in normal dungeons, both for instantly proclaiming "Yes, I'm a real tank" and for the occasional PUG where I end up rezzing the whole team after the newbies wipe during the Engine Guardian's poison phase

Jaraal

Thunderbug’s is great for fake tanks. AOE shock nuke procs plus resist buffs. Add the Jolting set from Tempest Island for more resists plus more shock damage, then put 50 points into elemental damage CP. Put a hardening glyph on your 2h weapon, run Brawler and Bone Shield for maximum DS plus a synergy clickie to make your group think you’re unselfish, then put your Infernal Guardian set on for even more AOE elemental damage. Run Warhorn to buff your group like a real tank, too. With this setup you can fake tank most dungeons, plus outdamage the three fake DPS you are playing with.