The ESO Reddit is much more positive!

ImmortalCX

If you read this forum, you'd come to the conclusion that the game is a broken mess. Reading/posting here gives a very discouraging view of the game.

The ESO reddit is (surprisingly) much more positive and about as busy. Leads me to believe that people post here in an attempt to get the attention of the developers for whatever ails them.

Maybe the forum should be renamed "@GinaLBruno".

yodased

Except gina isnt a developer, shes one of the games p.r. rep.

People post here for many reasons, mostly to vent, but also to draw attention to themselves and send people to reddit.

Donny_Vito

I dislike Reddit, mainly because of the UI. It looks like a cheaply designed Facebook.

theyancey

It is fairly standard that all general game forum are cesspools of bile and negativity. The sub forums are where you find more reasonable people and intelligent questions and answers.

Haashhtaag

ImmortalCX wrote: »

If you read this forum, you'd come to the conclusion that the game is a broken mess. Reading/posting here gives a very discouraging view of the game.

The ESO reddit is (surprisingly) much more positive and about as busy. Leads me to believe that people post here in an attempt to get the attention of the developers for whatever ails them.

Maybe the forum should be renamed "@GinaLBruno".

ImmortalCX wrote: »

If you read this forum, you'd come to the conclusion that the game is a broken mess. Reading/posting here gives a very discouraging view of the game.

The ESO reddit is (surprisingly) much more positive and about as busy. Leads me to believe that people post here in an attempt to get the attention of the developers for whatever ails them.

Maybe the forum should be renamed "@GinaLBruno".

How many “I was strolling through Tamriel and saw this so I had to take a screenshot” post do you want?

Datolite

It's kind of two extremes, and the subreddit can be just as obnoxious with their "look what I got from my crate" posts and the pandering feel-goodery everywhere.

That being said, it's still a more supportive community and that's what counts.

ScardyFox

Yeah, because the best way for a game to get better is to pretend everything is peachy-keen. The game has a plethora of problems with it, if we all took the sycophant route for example, this ABSURD glyph/enchantment nonsense would still be going on.

The game, their choices, their in ability to fix lag, plethora of broken things every update and on and ON bring them well deserved ire.

Valrien

That's because in most games, reddit is the place where any negativity is downvoted to hell and fan art is carried all the way to the front page

Haenk

"Broken mess" might not be correct, but there are plenty of bugs, and people are obviously unhappy, when some old stuff breaks for no reason or new stuff is released even when serious bugs have been reported and went unfixed - that's enough to be unhappy about the state of the game.
Plus there are bugs that are present for years, and are still unfixed.

ImmortalCX

ScardyFox wrote: »

Yeah, because the best way for a game to get better is to pretend everything is peachy-keen. The game has a plethora of problems with it, if we all took the sycophant route for example, this ABSURD glyph/enchantment nonsense would still be going on.

The game, their choices, their in ability to fix lag, plethora of broken things every update and on and ON bring them well deserved ire.

Maybe its platform based ire?

I've been playing on PC for about six months total, and the only bad problem was last winter when I had purchased Gold/Morrowind, during (I believe) a free week, I was unable to log on one evening.

I don't PVP, so maybe that is why I don't feel it''s massively broken.

I also didn't realize there was any glyph or enchantment nonsense that was addressed by moaning on the forums. I guess I'm out of the loop, but for a typical player things are rolling along fine.

Elsonso

ImmortalCX wrote: »

Maybe its platform based ire?

I've been playing on PC for about six months total, and the only bad problem was last winter when I had purchased Gold/Morrowind, during (I believe) a free week, I was unable to log on one evening.

I don't PVP, so maybe that is why I don't feel it''s massively broken.

I also didn't realize there was any glyph or enchantment nonsense that was addressed by moaning on the forums. I guess I'm out of the loop, but for a typical player things are rolling along fine.

This is largely it, I suspect. The community is pretty good, but I am increasingly of the opinion that, unless I have PVP lag and disconnect problems, or my meta keeps changing each patch, I should be spending my forum time somewhere else.

Lord_Eomer

Valrien wrote: »

That's because in most games, reddit is the place where any negativity is downvoted to hell and fan art is carried all the way to the front page

So ESO forum options should also have dislike option

Valrien

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

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Valrien wrote: »

That's because in most games, reddit is the place where any negativity is downvoted to hell and fan art is carried all the way to the front page

So ESO forum options should also have dislike option

If it doesn't affect what appears on the front page, otherwise the Stamblades can just downvote "Sorc Buff" threads to hell

Rake

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ImmortalCX wrote: »

If you read this forum, you'd come to the conclusion that the game is a broken mess. Reading/posting here gives a very discouraging view of the game.

The ESO reddit is (surprisingly) much more positive and about as busy. Leads me to believe that people post here in an attempt to get the attention of the developers for whatever ails them.

Maybe the forum should be renamed "@GinaLBruno".

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ImmortalCX wrote: »

If you read this forum, you'd come to the conclusion that the game is a broken mess. Reading/posting here gives a very discouraging view of the game.

The ESO reddit is (surprisingly) much more positive and about as busy. Leads me to believe that people post here in an attempt to get the attention of the developers for whatever ails them.

Maybe the forum should be renamed "@GinaLBruno".

How many “I was strolling through Tamriel and saw this so I had to take a screenshot” post do you want?

You wrote trolling with an extra s

xxthir13enxx

Welcome to the ESO complaints/help line...all of the lines *loading* are busy *loading* at this time. *loading* Please hang up and come back when the problems fixed

Odovacar

I think the ESO forums has many more veteran players than Reddits population, hence the snarkier, yet witty responses.

Donny_Vito

And where else can you just use the @ symbol and tag every single Mod/Developer in hopes that it actually makes a difference???

Robvenom

Ofcourse it is more postive. All the ESO reddit consists of are in-game screenshots with titles lik e"Eso is so beautiful"

ESO reddit is not even worth visiting anymore.

VaranisArano

ESO on Reddit:




ESO on the Forums:

kathandira

Donny_Vito wrote: »

I dislike Reddit, mainly because of the UI. It looks like a cheaply designed Facebook.

The UI is definitely a huge turn off for me as well.

fastolfv_ESO

you do know eso's reddit is modrated to death to only be positive right? the moderator for the forums is by far the biggest brown noser eso has ever had

Anotherone773

fastolfv_ESO wrote: »

you do know eso's reddit is modrated to death to only be positive right? the moderator for the forums is by far the biggest brown noser eso has ever had

So then ESO reddit is more like a shrine than something actually constructive.

Bhaal5

But eso is a broken mess?

Lake

fastolfv_ESO wrote: »

you do know eso's reddit is modrated to death to only be positive right? the moderator for the forums is by far the biggest brown noser eso has ever had

This.

One of the Reddit mods tried to downplay the Red Shell mess despite all evidence to the contrary.

BigM

Reddit has it's good points, but bring up a problem about the game you need to sort of carefully go around the problem or you will be down voted to heck. Which is why I begged to get back on here from my ban. At least you can discuss the problems as long as you follow the forum rules. You also can get more responses to the problem so you can get a fair idea if you, an addon, or the game it self.

ImmortalCX

BigM wrote: »

Reddit has it's good points, but bring up a problem about the game you need to sort of carefully go around the problem or you will be down voted to heck. Which is why I begged to get back on here from my ban. At least you can discuss the problems as long as you follow the forum rules. You also can get more responses to the problem so you can get a fair idea if you, an addon, or the game it self.

And yet, instead of putting all the problems in the "bug report" section of the forum, the majority of them end up here.

Which leads me to believe that these posts are made as a form of "negative advertizing blackmail". (You better fix this or i'm going to keep whining in general discussion to the point of driving players from the game!)

I look at it like there are hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people accessing these forums, even if .005% are OCD, on the spectrum (black and white thinking), or forgot to take their meds, that still represents hundreds or even thousands of people with an axe to grind, when all-in-all, things are quite decent.

I also believe that many of the problems are a result of network issues, possibly outside the control of ZOS. If these problem (like endless load times) struck everyone occasionally, then people would be able to empathize. But it seems to be a subset of the player base with a recurring problem.

So basically, the complaining represents players who are A) Ultra-particular, black-or-white thinkers who demand perfection, and A subset of the player base who has recurring technical issues, most likely related to network issues.

Valrien

ImmortalCX wrote: »

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BigM wrote: »

Reddit has it's good points, but bring up a problem about the game you need to sort of carefully go around the problem or you will be down voted to heck. Which is why I begged to get back on here from my ban. At least you can discuss the problems as long as you follow the forum rules. You also can get more responses to the problem so you can get a fair idea if you, an addon, or the game it self.

And yet, instead of putting all the problems in the "bug report" section of the forum, the majority of them end up here.

Which leads me to believe that these posts are made as a form of "negative advertizing blackmail". (You better fix this or i'm going to keep whining in general discussion to the point of driving players from the game!)

I look at it like there are hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people accessing these forums, even if .005% are OCD, on the spectrum (black and white thinking), or forgot to take their meds, that still represents hundreds or even thousands of people with an axe to grind, when all-in-all, things are quite decent.

I also believe that many of the problems are a result of network issues, possibly outside the control of ZOS. If these problem (like endless load times) struck everyone occasionally, then people would be able to empathize. But it seems to be a subset of the player base with a recurring problem.

So basically, the complaining represents players who are A) Ultra-particular, black-or-white thinkers who demand perfection, and A subset of the player base who has recurring technical issues, most likely related to network issues.

Well, Sorc shields being capped at half health isn't exactly a "Bug" is it? You could argue that it belongs in Combat, but when you have a General Discussion subforum, people tend to discuss things generally

goldenflameslinger

You certainly need thicker skin in the forums, you have to be able to kill the trolls and swallow the salt. I feel like the forums are the pathway to getting the dev's attention and that we do have an impact on the game. A lot of changes are made between the first PTS patch and the final release for an update, and the forum drive a lot of that for sure. Reddit...not so much.

Woeler

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fastolfv_ESO wrote: »

you do know eso's reddit is modrated to death to only be positive right? the moderator for the forums is by far the biggest brown noser eso has ever had

This.

One of the Reddit mods tried to downplay the Red Shell mess despite all evidence to the contrary.

Is that a new name for putting a disclaimer on a hysterical caps-lock title topic full of non-nuanced claims?

Okay then.

(And no, that mod wasn’t me)

wolf486

I do agree that coming here can leave the impression that the game is a broken mess, however these are the office forums for ESO which means it's the best place to post bugs and issues.

My only issue with the 'negative' posts are when there is a known issue and people make a dozen different new posts about it.

MaxwellC

Lol if you want to see a "broken mess" try doing a raid in Maw, sanctum, or heck try doing PvP in general. You get abilities firing 10 seconds after you attempt to use them, flying through walls, falling through the ground, mobs teleporting, potions not working... the list can go on.