Trials pretty much unplayable since Murkmire!

magictucktuck

Are most of you on EU or usually have lag issues? I'm on NA (and in general never bad lag when others complain on forums about it unless something is seriously going on with the servers) and Ive had no lag or issues in trials since murkmire. i did have 1 person in vMOL last night complaining of the same issues, but he was the only one. so we figured it was his connection since everyone else was fine. I'm wondering if its the same case.

are u the only one in your group experiencing it?
is it everyone or just some?
where do you live?

Olupajmibanan

Been four AS+1 runs yesterday without any problems.

Could the issue be related to specific trials?

FakeFox

magictucktuck wrote: »

Are most of you on EU or usually have lag issues? I'm on NA (and in general never bad lag when others complain on forums about it unless something is seriously going on with the servers) and Ive had no lag or issues in trials since murkmire. i did have 1 person in vMOL last night complaining of the same issues, but he was the only one. so we figured it was his connection since everyone else was fine. I'm wondering if its the same case.

are u the only one in your group experiencing it?
is it everyone or just some?
where do you live?

I am German, play PC/EU, usually don't have any significant performance issues and it varies between a few people to the entire group. I'm pretty sure it is something with instance creation, similar to the instance based high ping or other bugs of that sort.

John_Falstaff

@FakeFox , yup, I imagine that most groups would just skip. Though thing is, skipping Yokeda Kai means no achievement for veteran clear. It's funny to imagine that tons of people regularly run vHRC with Craglorn pugs - hunting for jewelry or whatnot - but still didn't officially clear the veteran because they've never seen Yokeda Kai dead. ^^

FakeFox

John_Falstaff wrote: »

@FakeFox , yup, I imagine that most groups would just skip. Though thing is, skipping Yokeda Kai means no achievement for veteran clear. It's funny to imagine that tons of people regularly run vHRC with Craglorn pugs - hunting for jewelry or whatnot - but still didn't officially clear the veteran because they've never seen Yokeda Kai dead. ^^

I actually was talking about killing the boss without killing the copys, which actually makes the fight take pretty much it's normal time. But I guess you are right, most groups would probably not be able to deal with the incoming damage from that and will resort to just skipping.

AgaTheGreat

So, we've just finished vmol on the first day of patch (PS4) and people were dying like crazy. Has the savage debuff range increased? Really weird deaths and one shots even though we did the same thing as always

Weps

Yesterday we tried vMoL and vHR and nothing was working properly.
Textures failing, nobody could see their own animation going off and usually all mechanics happened unpredictably without giving us any control on them ( namely vMoL Twins' adds either showing before their lights hit the ground or showing up after a good 3-5 seconds after that...same goes with Savages, Shadowguards, Dreadstalkers, Sun-Eaters along the way ).

I've also heard reports that Negate is not correctly preventing and silencing mechanics as intended ( namely stomping mobs, the final boss of the second arena in Maelstrom and possibly more of them coming the further we try trials out )

Weps

Further evidence of how unpredictably massive texture failures can be

Starting from second 14 onward
https://clips.twitch.tv/ImpartialHedonisticTapirPicoMause

And this is vMoL. Ignore the colors, that's just Twitch being uncapable of rendering your beautiful acid-trippy HDR textures, in the video you can clearly see everything:
- The white streak lines glitching all over the room ( and they're visible to every single member of the team so it's not HDR related );
- The boss and respective add are doing the beam animation but there is no beam showing;
- My blockade, engulfing, chains...are correctly casted but no animation is firing off to show it;
- The tiny little white squares you see popping up over the enemies heads are supposed to be damage numbers, but even that texture is failing ( and is something now happening on a global scale in the entire application );
- No colors showing above players heads ( and as you can read in the chat, is something happening to everyone, so no HDR related);
- We're console plebes, so no Addons were used @ZOS_Finn

https://clips.twitch.tv/CourteousTardyWormPraiseIt

Now, to be fair I've been experiecing animation and textures failing, trials or dungeons completely bugged even before Murkmire dropped ( I ran Vaults of Madness several times the night that the new outfit mask came out and one of these times the entire instance was completely immune to AoE damage whatsoever and it took us a good 10 minutes to kill every single boss or add pull when it did take us around 10-15 minutes to complete the entire HM veteran dungeon during the previous runs ) and I usually blamed my connection since a restart often helped solving some of the issues.
But yesterday night was the first time I've ever witnessed massive textures failing, characters animation and mechanics stop working as intended for the entire team and or the infamous streaking-long-white-hair-coming-out-of-characters-arse showing up.



@ZOS_Finn @ZOS_GinaBruno could you please let us know how are the investigation going, since reports of this kind are starting to accumulate? Thanks

arun_rajputb16_ESO

Lots of new bugs, frame rate is awful, everything seems sluggish, light and heavy attacks misfire, pauses when using abilities and the map seems to have a bug too that's difficult to explain!

I put it down to more people playing due to a new dlc. But dungeons and trials are really not fun at the moment.

Zer0oo

+1

Please if you fix them write it in the patch notes so we can see it and start playing trials again.

Weps

Any update @ZOS_Finn @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

SinfulPrinc3ss

@ZOS_GinaBruno the disconnects and missing visuals are making trials impossible on xbox one.

Rak_am

same PS4 EU
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/5598308#Comment_5598308

Zer0oo

@ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_JessicaFolsom , @ZOS_Finn , @ZOS_Gilliam

any ETA for fixing trials?

Suddwrath

This has been happening on Xbox NA as well.

My guild runs 1-2 trials daily, but we have had to put trials completely on hold due to the amount of disconnects. Last night during a vHRC the entire left side group disconnected simultaneously during the 2nd boss fight.

Ripperoni.

FilteredRiddle

Same issues with Xbox NA. My Trials guild has had to cancel multiple Trial runs because of lag, disconnects, bugs, etc.

shack80

Same issues with xb1 eu. Hope they are gonna fix this asap. Disconnects keeps happening all the time and random errors with visuals.

Andreakos

I was in a dungeon with randoms, and this happened.

PC EU

https://clips.twitch.tv/StrangeDelightfulTigerBigBrother

Pevey

It's not just trials. Last night I tried forever to do vet Cradle of Shadows, which I've done before. But now when Velidreth does her "don't move a muscle" mechanic, it is so buggy and inconsistent that the whole fight just becomes rng. You can't see the dust at your feet, and for some people, she never goes up, for some people, she goes invisible, and for some people even if they are still at the right time and dodge at the right time, they still get a spike about 3-4 seconds AFTER the rest of the mechanic is completely over. WTH? Is this all just to do with lag?

themaddaedra

vHoF has never been lacking issues but after Murkmire it's a total mess. We've been practising through Tick Tock Tormentor, but at this point we are really tired of the place acting all the time.

Here are some issues we are experiencing, i might add the more i remember:

1st boss:
This might not be specific to HoF, but sometimes there are one or two players who don't receive any purges, even tho 5 people (tanks, healers and interrupter) are literally spamming purges. Poor guy just won't get cleansed.

2nd boss:
a. The centurions don't disappear after dying, which makes tanking a total mess. They just stand in the middle platform and cause a load of visual problems.
b. Indicator for shades don't appear at all. This pretty much means a wipe for group. Poor tank can't interrupt what he/she can't see. They are already in trouble with the gigantic centurion corpse in the meantime.
c. The laser beam upstairs ocassionally don't appear. Good DDs have to guess it.

3rd boss:
a. Invisible spiders cause the group to get stuck in combat. We figured out it can be ocassionally avoided if we stack them all without hitting them beforehand and without moving far from each other, but it's still a big bug.
b. Mobs don't spawn correctly. Sometimes they don't spawn at all and sometimes 4 of them spawn at once.
c. Mobs ocassionally spawn on the boss and not on their location.
d. Shock pylons ocassionally don't appear, so we have to skip a cycle.

4th boss:
a. Visuals, mostly for ground abilities like fingers ocassionally don't appear.
b. Reunited Factotums glitch after spawning. They move around with an insane speed and reposition themselves. Sometimes they just reposition to the boss even.

5th boss:
a: Ground abilities again don't appear ocassionally.
b. Mobs (mostly Calefactors) might ocassionally ignore taunt.

Mob Packs:
a. Dead Spheres sometimes cast Draining Ballista. Pretty bad that one.
b. Sometimes the animation for Draining Ballista don't appear at all. We need a tank to spam Deep Breath on everything.
c. Mine cycle from Spheres ocassionally won't appear. We can't even mind our steps!

Apart from all above, the place is a total performance pain. I don't remember having one single raid without at least two crashes since Murkmire.

FPS is overall terrible. Especially on Commitee and Assembly General. It's just unplayable with one/two consistent crash and the rest of group dealing with 15ish FPS.

I haven't been much into other trials after Murkmire but from guildies and friends i keep hearing issues for every single trial. Would love to hear some info, if it's being worked on or whatsoever. At this point we really don't know what to do.

todokete

I think they're fine

Aethereal'Golden

I hope they'll fix the trials today after the maintenance. Can't fight against bugs.

Rak_am

hello,

All trial vet are garbage now... just try vhr/vas/vmol and vso and it's unplayable... I think (and sorry all) that they not fix the trials today... there is so many problems... lag, visual bug, crash, can't barswap, skill doesn't work... and is just for trial... if you want we can speak about pvp (10 fps max, infinite load screen, crash etc etc...
En fact, they have piled up so many bugs over time that now to make a back it is almost impossible. For me (PS4 EU) this is the end of life of a game that has never been properly maintained. End of the story, scooped, bye bye

Too bad for us HL players who have spent time and money in this game ... in any case never again I set foot in a zenimax / bethesda game!

ps : the crown shop works wonderfully

Weps

Trials are stacking more bugs by the day, how is the active investigation going @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Finn ?
Is it still active?

ruengdet2515

PC EU, not sure but i run 2-3 n/v trial everyday and no time to see any bug.

OrdoHermetica

magictucktuck wrote: »

Are most of you on EU or usually have lag issues? I'm on NA (and in general never bad lag when others complain on forums about it unless something is seriously going on with the servers) and Ive had no lag or issues in trials since murkmire. i did have 1 person in vMOL last night complaining of the same issues, but he was the only one. so we figured it was his connection since everyone else was fine. I'm wondering if its the same case.

are u the only one in your group experiencing it?
is it everyone or just some?
where do you live?

NA/PC here, and it's happening to me as well. There's also plenty of video evidence of it happening on PS4 and XBox. So, no, it doesn't appear to be location-based, or platform-based.

DenniMyuu

It feels like performance got worse. I never had any particular issue on that part but especially since Murkmire I notice this decrease in FPS the more time you spend in an instance to be more horrific than it has ever been. It was an issue back with CR and Summerset being released but while I can reset a mini-trial easy when more people start to get said issues I can't do so in HOF, MOL etc when trying to get some progress going in there. We notice an actual delay with incoming damage and healing being off etc.
My connection in general is fine on PC/EU. I live in Germany and have a regular and stable ping in a range of 67-110.

I personally haven't been doing a wide variety of trials since Murkmire since my group spends their time in HOF atm. I can agree with @themaddaedra here.
HOF 1st boss: One specific person dies on first boss on every single run during 3 hours of raiding to venom burst as he doesn't get any purges from 4-5 people frequently purging. We even tried it out of combat he would only get it when there was less than 6 (?) targets around him so it would forcibly have to proc on him.
HOF 2nd boss: Centurions still don't despawn and sit in the room making it harder for the tank to get the shade mechanic down if he doesn't actively move the Factotum more across the room. Making it hard for the DDs to keep their dots up etc.
HOF 3rd boss: Mobs spawn and visually disappear for the tank. He can't see what they do etc. Spiders going into the wall/floor.
MOL Rakkhat: In a long time I had to use the turn the audio off fix again to make myself not crash frequently in this fight.
MOL trash: Completely random crash with crash report at the beginning of the trial. Was fine after that all evening.

FakeFox

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/445492/pc-mac-patch-notes-v4-2-8

Still no fixes for buggy trials and dungeons!

themaddaedra

FakeFox wrote: »

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/445492/pc-mac-patch-notes-v4-2-8

Still no fixes for buggy trials and dungeons!

Patch notes should be renamed to Natch Potes and remain as memes. They do not seem to serve anything else honestly.

Rak_am

bravo zenimax bravo, as usual at the top ...