Do you have ESO Plus and why, or why not?

Leocaran

No

For me crafting bag and inventory space are the reasons NOT to pay them anything more. I hate to give in to extortion. Also I've already paid them quite enough, some people forget the game is not actually f2p. I hope they won't make inventory space issue worse or even amend it, otherwise it would be a reason to actually quit, not to subscribe.

CatchMeTrolling

No

Currently have it but temporarily stopped auto renew , don’t really get anything out of it as a player besides the craft bag.

kylewwefan

Yes

Looking forward to not renewing and never stepping foot into DLC again.

grim_tactics

No

I no longer have it nor do I have any desire to.

They refuse to fix their broken game but continue pumping out cosmetic items.

If they will ever fix their garbage servers then I will, but they haven’t fixed them at all and never will.

atheka

Yes

Bad case of alt-iasis. Really need the craftbag and extra storage space for all the stuff I accumulate across my 15 characters.

Darkenarlol

Yes

yes i have eso + for years now

most likely gonna drop it - not satisfied by state of the game at all

like c'mon your lags/bugs is at FTP level not AAA title with sub

anyway have tho months more to chill after nerfmire rage...

keevil111

No

I've had plus a couple of times before. Doesn't feel worth it to me. I understand supporting the game, but it's more like supporting paywall gimmicks and fashion. Warden should be base game. JC should be base game. What's next, spell crafting only if you buy the next chapter?

trashcannot

Yes

I've had it since beta launch but am cancelling it next month (already paid for this month) because the recent nerfs and cyro changes have really deterred me. Plus Fallout 76 (even though that's broke also lmao)

Starlock

Yes

Yes, to support the game.

I kinda don't want it, weirdly enough. Why? Because I want those stupid DLC dungeons out of my randoms. I don't run randoms anymore on characters I have above level 50 because of those dungeons existing. I like doing them from time to time, yeah, but on randoms? Just... no.

Katahdin

Yes

I enjoy the game very much.

Very cheap entertainment cost as far as I am concerned, pennies per hour.

DLCs
Craft bag
Extra storage space
Double furniture slots

DaveMoeDee

Yes

lnsane wrote: »

Because 1500 crowns a month + increased exp. + craft bag + all other extras, is a better deal than simply buying a 1500 crown pack every month - which would cost EXACTLY the same (€12,99). Since I have a 3-month recurring sub which only costs €11,99 I'm actually paying less than what a 1500 crown pack would cost me. One euro less, but it's less all the same!

Why would anyone buy 1500 crowns packs repeatedly? They can just get a bigger pack if they want that many crowns.

Don't forget though about the 10% increase in crown rewards to 1650. That makes it a little more competitive with the crown prices when not on sale. It will be interesting to see what the ESO+ crown store discounts are like for those who like crown store stuff (I'll pass).

Nevasca

No

I don't want to support the Craftbag being behind a Subscription anymore, I don't intend to keep it once it runs out.

The game is build to purposely be annoying without it. Look at how many Provisioning ingredients do we have. Look at how many sets do we have. It's made to be annoying, and provide a fix which is ESO plus. It is not a pay2win, but rather a pay to play element since you can not enjoy the full game without it, you miss crafting and have to deal with inventory management. The inventory is so annoying that you still have issues with it even with ESO plus. I made the decision to play ESO because it's a Buy to Play game, I don't want keep paying to play a game I already bought. I will just deal with the inventory management, and spentd all my gold to max all my chars inventory and make all of them mules, except two, otherwise I will not have space.

I wouldn't mind that much if you could buy the Craftbag with crowns, since I could buy it with gold now with the gift system, but nah, I bet it's what make this game alive at this point. Same thing for the extra space on your bank that it gives.

DaveMoeDee

Yes

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

TBH this pool is pointless as you will not get a representative portion of players on forums (minority of players use forums, and most of those who do are ESO+ Fanboys)

Do you actually read the forums? This is where people come to rant.

Mintaka5

No

After Murkmire patch, and the nerf dump ZOS *** on sorcs, the framerate drops in Murkmire zone, game bugs everywhere, and just overall a general lack of quality control, I canceled my sub. As much as I'd hate to do it, I feel like investing more money into this company is a waste.

TheShadowScout

Yes

...because I believe in putting my money where my mouth is, and supporting a game I enjoy!

(the storage benefits are neat as well - but I was paying for my ESO long before those became a thing!)

_Salty_

No

If the game was sub only I would in a heartbeat. The craft bag isn't worth the money, there isnt single house in the game I like (including the psijic one) so the extra furniture slots is of no use to me and I buy the DLCs outright excluding the overpriced dungeon which have no appeal to me.

The game caters to casuals and fashionistas so I will not pay a monthly sub simply for inventory management and crowns for vanity items that are unappealing. As I have my Daemon Chicken and my Dark Stag Im pretty set for all the vanity I could ever need. If they release a notable sized Nord Keep then Ill buy it but untill then ill save my money for proper DLCs only.

Panomania

Yes

I do. I always do my best to support the games I play, especially when they run a FTP model. The benefits for plus members make it a no brainer, too.

However, I lately have become more and more bored and disillusioned with ESO, and I find I miss the older style MMO's...which means I will probably be spending less time in ESO in favor of Brad McQuaid's new project. At that point we'll see if I still keep plus.

Tandor

Yes

I run 6-monthly subscriptions on both my accounts, it being the cheapest way of playing the game as well as the most efficient.

Kingslayer513

Yes

Craft bag. The other bonuses are nice too

MaxJrFTW

Yes

Bag, DLC, monthly crowns.

Claudman

No

Costs the same amount as a pizza as I am always told.

I'd rather buy a pizza.

FlyingSwan

No

I used to. But the game just doesn't have the quality to make me feel the need to subscribe any longer.

Petoften

No

First, my basic position on subscriptions and MMO pay models:

I think 'buy to play' is fair. Pay for a game that is made for you to enjoy, it's all good. Guild Wars 2 does that.

So, what about subscriptions? OK, MMO's have some ongoing costs that might justify a small subscription. For more, there should be more ongoing value provided.

The traditional price is $15/month for a 'full' subscription. Arguable how well the MMO's have justified that as they tend to charge for expansions also, but ESO has provided more value than most with DLC content included.

So, what about 'free to play'? My objection is that that is a marketing-focused game design, all about 'attracting players' with 'free', that doesn't change any of the basic economics of needing the revenue.

So, it replaces an 'honest' model of selling the game with one that has to motive those 'free' players into spending.

One of the less painful ways to do that is to have the more dedicated players pay, and the more casual players not pay.

For example, in world of tanks, 'premium' is basically increased rewards in 'leveling' and game currency that are more valuable for more dedicated players.

But F2P usually seems focused on building a more crippled game, to create problems that spending money solves.

For example, limited inventory so that it's pretty miserable until you pay for more. And ESO pretty much does just that, though it's more balanced than most in making the game mostly fine, and still playable with lots of hours more on inventory.

So, in principle I prefer more 'buy to play', and just maybe some subscription but not so much if I want to play casually.

Having said all that, my approach to ESO was, I want to play casually, and I'm willing to spend the price of the game but don't want to spend the price of a subscription.

Before I bought Summerset - I'd owned the base game for years but barely played - I asked whether the inventory was built to pressure a lot to buy ESO.

I was told no - and I think I was told wrong. But it's still a great game, while I spend hours and hours micro managing inventory, almost always with full bags, leaving tons of loot on the ground.

So, no I don't have ESO, but I want to play casually and not spend $15/month just for a reasonable inventory system.

It detracts from the game, but it's the balance I'm playing with. I'm planning to watch for a crown sale on black Friday so I can buy the DLC's.

I'm sort of regretting passing up the 'black' bundle that included the DLC's for about the same price as Summerset Collector's + Morrowing would have cost - trading the CE mount and pet I got for all the DLC's.

They are overly limited on the purchase options that way. But that's what I did as I wanted the mount/pet. So no DLC yet.

It'd be nice if they'd sell the crafting bag for a cash price up to $20, but I don't think they will as it'd cost them money. And that pushes me to consider whether to keep playing ESO as the inventory hours increase.

Jhalin

Yes

I play all sorts of content, healer, stamdps, magdps, dungeons, trials, BGs, occasional offtanking, and casual housing, RP, farming, trading

Even with ESO+ and maxed bank space, 7/8 inventory upgrades on multiple toons, and more than a few storage containers, I’m still running out of room for everything

Without ESO+, it’d be impossible to play the game tbh

testd4n1

Yes

Two words. Craft Bag.

Dawnblade

No

Currently No - though I have from time to time (and used my crowns to unlock DLC areas I found enjoyable).

Why no?

While I enjoy the game as buy to play, it isn't worth a subscription.

Yes, the crafting bag is great, but it's just a way to monetize a work around for the god awful inventory system - and I'm not going to support a company monetizing their customers in such a way.

Performance wise the game is hit or miss, lag is a perennial issue, along with days filled with random DCs, crashes and other annoying bugs that are acceptable in a mostly free product, but not so in a paid service.

Other things that distract for me include CP (trying to catch up as a new player is a cruel joke, yet higher levels make lots of the game a joke), stamina reliance on PVP skills (not running content I don't like over and over every time I want to make a stamina character), and the way parts of the game now feel designed to push people to spend for over-priced items in the store (e.g. the whole housing and furnishing systems).

craftycarper73

Currently yes. runs out on the 20th of this month, and that's the date that Zo$ stops getting my money.

Bugs
Lag
Constant nerfs for no real reason
Ignoring paying customers concerns, with nothing, nada in terms of communication.
The fact there more interested in the cash grab, with crappy PR stunts to make it look like the game is overly populated, login for a daily reward anyone?


All this is a real shame as before the nerfmire changes were announced i bought a new gaming rig with the intention of starting over on PC (currently PS4) that will not be happening, and likely never will.

therift

Yes

Why not?

LiquidSchwartz

Yes

Why not? I play it more than anything else, I don’t wanna shell out a ton of money at once to access all the dlc, and crafbag.
I’m gonna buy crowns anyway so why not get all the perks along with 1,500 crowns. Like, if you ever buy crowns over that amount at some point in each month, you can’t justify not getting eso plus instead.

MasterSpatula

Yes

There are many reasons, but for me it ultimately comes down to this: Sub-only is really the only acceptable way to run an MMO, real-world money for in-game anything is inherently bad, and I’m stubbornly holding to this even as the game moves farther and farther into the unacceptible-BS way of making money.