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Cyrodiil dying and fast

WrathOfTheRipper
Cyrodiil is dying. Cheating, spying, faction jumping, scrolls being taken illegitimately. Cant speak for xbox or pc but ps4 cyrodiil pvp is going to be empty very soon.

I myself with about 15 friends have decided to either stop playing (which half have already done because of said reasons) or are switching to BG’s.

Nothing zos does will save cyrodiil.
  • WrathOfTheRipper
    That is bs. They need to aleast ban these cheaters. Its making the enviornment toxic. Cyrodiil has become unplayable. Peak time on ps4 consists of about 3 bars AD, 2 bars EP, and maybe 1 bar DC. Cyrodiil is dying because Zos wont do ***.
  • WrathOfTheRipper
    Not only that but the faction imbalances is driving alot of players away too. Soon the only faction on Ps4 NA will only be AD. Cyrodiil will be dead in about 6 months time
  • usmguy1234
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    Not only that but the faction imbalances is driving alot of players away too. Soon the only faction on Ps4 NA will only be AD. Cyrodiil will be dead in about 6 months time

    Xbox red has emp in both vivec and shor and rolls around 50 deep everywhere. Ad can put a decent zerg up in primetime. Dc just get hit from both sides. When dc gets wrapped up fighting ep for an hour at Chal or BRK, ad just backdoors.
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  • idk
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    Cyro does have a much reduced population that it did back in it's hay day, but that has been a slow progression. It has more to do with the overall management of the game Zos has done.
    Really, idk
  • Spartabunny08
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    Yep, we're already outta here. Be back to see the train wreck in about a year, if it still exists lmao.
  • usmguy1234
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    The population drop in the last year on Xbox has been pretty staggering.
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  • montiferus
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    usmguy1234 wrote: »
    The population drop in the last year on Xbox has been pretty staggering.

    This.

    Our group has to work hard to find fights these days. The change in the last 3-5 months has been immense. There is just nobody playing anymore.
  • kylewwefan
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    It’s like this. I can’t get in a group to do anything. So I have to fly solo.

    Spend some time getting to an objective, work on some overpowered NPC and hope not to die.

    Almost take the resource, then like sharks smelling blood in the water they come on down to put me in the rightful place.

    Start back over in highrock. That wayshrine there is looking real good right now.

    Battlegrounds.

    Gets me all the action I can handle. Might take 4 or 5 matches before I can hopefully come in second place or so. It’s a better experience. More fun. Fast.
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  • tactx
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    PVP is so unbalanced it's not surprising. Also if anyone goes there and is moderately successful, it turns into a rage about it here on the forums and the inevitable nerf wrecking ball (a bat or a sledgehammer just didn't do it justice after the Sorc shield nerf) swings and destroys their class.

    I'll keep my class, builds and dps off the radar as long as possible.
    “No one's happiness but my own is in my power to achieve or to destroy.” - John Galt, Atlas Shrugged
  • Sevn
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    You should try BG'S if you can handle pvp without cp. Plenty of action on a regular basis.
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  • p00tx
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    usmguy1234 wrote: »
    Cyrodiil is dying. Cheating, spying, faction jumping, scrolls being taken illegitimately. Cant speak for xbox or pc but ps4 cyrodiil pvp is going to be empty very soon.

    I myself with about 15 friends have decided to either stop playing (which half have already done because of said reasons) or are switching to BG’s.

    Nothing zos does will save cyrodiil.

    Same here. Xbox na vivec ep stealing temple scrolls using a glitch. Guy has been doing it so long he's selling his "services." He's been reported dozens of times and yet Zos does nothing. I created a thread on it just yesterday and zos makes it disappear without a single reason as to why. They didn't even lock it... it just straight disappeared.

    I knew it! We saw the scroll get pulled from Rayles the other day, but it wasn't popped and there was no siege on it. Someone just "walked" in and took it. I suspect there was some pre-planned gap closing through a door happening there. If this is really happening and Zos knows about it but is doing nothing, that is not cool at all, unless they're keeping it quiet until they can catch the trashcans red-handed. If that's the case, carry on and may the banhammer swing like lightning.
    Xbox NA
  • p00tx
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    usmguy1234 wrote: »
    Not only that but the faction imbalances is driving alot of players away too. Soon the only faction on Ps4 NA will only be AD. Cyrodiil will be dead in about 6 months time

    Xbox red has emp in both vivec and shor and rolls around 50 deep everywhere. Ad can put a decent zerg up in primetime. Dc just get hit from both sides. When dc gets wrapped up fighting ep for an hour at Chal or BRK, ad just backdoors.

    This^^

    EP has all Xbox servers pop-locked morning, noon, and night while we're lucky if we can get two bars at prime time on DC. AD just does what it always has and either backdoors either team (usually DC because they've got a hard-on for us), or sends ball zergs to go beat up the stairs in DC keeps (really weird you guys). It feels like everyone is just sort of gravitating toward EP on all servers for the easy, brainless campaign win while those of us faction die-hards are becoming more and more bored with the zerg-meta garbage and resulting terminating load screens.

    There really isn't anything to be done about it either because you can't tell people who they can or can't play with, and the majority of players will choose the easy reward over challenging play (this isn't a personal dig, just a normal human tendency). It's really sad to see it happen to such an awesome part of the game.
    Xbox NA
  • MalagenR
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    What's killing PVP in open world is lack of incentive. If they increase the incentives to actually participate in obtaining Cyrodill objectives outside of

    - Emperor
    - Purple Jewelry
    - AP

    Then top PVP guilds and top players will be interested in organizing the necessary tools to achieve success.
  • usmguy1234
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    p00tx wrote: »
    usmguy1234 wrote: »
    Cyrodiil is dying. Cheating, spying, faction jumping, scrolls being taken illegitimately. Cant speak for xbox or pc but ps4 cyrodiil pvp is going to be empty very soon.

    I myself with about 15 friends have decided to either stop playing (which half have already done because of said reasons) or are switching to BG’s.

    Nothing zos does will save cyrodiil.

    Same here. Xbox na vivec ep stealing temple scrolls using a glitch. Guy has been doing it so long he's selling his "services." He's been reported dozens of times and yet Zos does nothing. I created a thread on it just yesterday and zos makes it disappear without a single reason as to why. They didn't even lock it... it just straight disappeared.

    I knew it! We saw the scroll get pulled from Rayles the other day, but it wasn't popped and there was no siege on it. Someone just "walked" in and took it. I suspect there was some pre-planned gap closing through a door happening there. If this is really happening and Zos knows about it but is doing nothing, that is not cool at all, unless they're keeping it quiet until they can catch the trashcans red-handed. If that's the case, carry on and may the banhammer swing like lightning.

    @p00tx If they can't use npcs, they get a friend to log in on another alliance. I've seen and heard of both. Person has been reported multiple times by multiple people and nothing. I've got screen shots on my Xbox profile (same as forum) if you want to take a look.
    Edited by usmguy1234 on November 1, 2018 8:29PM
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  • Koolio
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    For anyone saying the population is fine




    There is enough people in this one video to populate all campaigns on a platform. Yet I see barely see this many people in a week
  • MasterSpatula
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    A lot of the problems people are mentioning here fall more on the PVP community than ZOS. But ZOS should definitely be doing some incentivizing. Double-AP weekends every month or so, for one example.
    "A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle
  • p00tx
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    MalagenR wrote: »
    What's killing PVP in open world is lack of incentive. If they increase the incentives to actually participate in obtaining Cyrodill objectives outside of

    - Emperor
    - Purple Jewelry
    - AP

    Then top PVP guilds and top players will be interested in organizing the necessary tools to achieve success.

    That's not really it though. The only incentive I need to be in there is the availability of a fight. The rest is just extra. The big problem is that it's been de-incentivized. We'll be completely on point, running tight on a speed inner/outer keep take, everything going according to plan for the capture, we get inside and fight our way to flags when "BOOM"...loadscreen, for all of us. Maybe two of us come back from the loadscreen dead because one enemy was able to take us out while were standing there like helpless morons, and the rest get dashboarded, only to come back in to either base or out of Cyrodil altogether. No matter what we do, or where we go, this is pretty much constant on console. Push a breach- loadscreen. Gap close on someone- loadscreen. Ride across an empty field with no one in sight- loadscreen every 10m. What is the point of playing, skillfully or otherwise, if the only thing that matters is who randomly gets a loadscreen first?
    Xbox NA
  • usmguy1234
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    A lot of the problems people are mentioning here fall more on the PVP community than ZOS. But ZOS should definitely be doing some incentivizing. Double-AP weekends every month or so, for one example.

    When people feel or are treated inferior to others sometimes they become self-fullfilling prophecies. Zos don't care to fix the bugs in Cyrodiil? Aight let's find a way to exploit them. Now here we are.
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    Disclaimer: My comments are a little sarcasm mixed with truth. If you can't handle that don't respond to me.

  • Keylun
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    Same on Xbox EU
  • Kingslayer513
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    Koolio wrote: »
    For anyone saying the population is fine




    There is enough people in this one video to populate all campaigns on a platform. Yet I see barely see this many people in a week

    Idk Vivec PC NA seems fine population wise. Just a few days ago we fought an EP zerg of mostly werewolves that big around Bleakers. The problem is that the servers come to a grinding halt when that many people are in one area, so almost none of your abilities go off.
  • theyoungerbrother
    Can we just get the low population buff to work if you want players to eat dirt against team Orange all year?
  • usmguy1234
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    NBrookus wrote: »
    MalagenR wrote: »
    What's killing PVP in open world is lack of incentive. If they increase the incentives to actually participate in obtaining Cyrodill objectives outside of

    - Emperor
    - Purple Jewelry
    - AP

    Then top PVP guilds and top players will be interested in organizing the necessary tools to achieve success.

    Population was far higher when keeps were 100AP and resources 25AP, and there was nothing to buy with AP anyway except siege. Having AP as a viable currency is a good change, but it isn't what motivated people to go in the first place. Nor motivated them to stay.

    Performance and quality of gameplay is what brings players and keeps them. Performance is currently atrocious and there's no quality of gameplay when your gear does damage for you and numbers trumps everything else.

    I would say quality of gameplay is the biggest factor for me. I've played this game for several years on 6mb dsl (the horror) but I always stayed because in the grand scheme of things the fights seemed balanced... at least population wise. Now it's just watching the same dozen alliance members get pummeled to death by 50+ players all the way to the gate. Nothing has brought me to the brink of taking a break from eso more than this.
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    Disclaimer: My comments are a little sarcasm mixed with truth. If you can't handle that don't respond to me.

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