How often do you play with others?

Kalgert

A good amount.

Only time I regularly play with other players, is when I play with my girlfriend.

Other times I have to pug, if I want to do any dungeons or whatever, which I am not counting as 100% "Play with other players". I am also in foir guilds but rarely play with them because no one wants to do dungeons when I am asking around, and other times they want "Experienced tanks" and don't take me along for whatever they're doing.

Which is... Let us say, rather inconvenient.

Kalgert

A good amount.

Kikke wrote: »

Why play a MMO if you want to play alone?

For the TES fans - You we can understand. You came from a singel player game and I can understand your quests for solitude.

But for the rest; Why?

I perceive most players to be insufferable and unpleasant. Past experiences kinda exemplify that line of thought.

I won't say I am a saintly sort, but I'd rather play by myself than have to look at someone who probably would prefer if I dropped dead on the spot.

(A little grim answer, I know, but I don't have a very light view of other players in multiplayer games).

zaria

A good amount.

Say 1/3rd of the time, else working on sets of builds, just relaxing questing and farming or continue to bang my head against vMA. Very up and down, Elsweyr has been lots of questing, one guild even paused trials. Ramping up again.

Linaleah

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Um.... you mean in the way of a Tayledras mating circle? Well.... that might get me banned.... *joke*

I'm much more interested in why OP showed up here not so long ago, claiming many hours on all classes, and posting all these.... polls and other questions.

So yeah - my conspiracy theorist self wants to know if this is someone from Beth posting "anonymously".

Mercedes Lackey reference! I KNEW i liked you : P

as for poll, the answers are very odd. becasue all of those are subjective? and what do you mean by play exactly? are we talking pve group content? pvp in any form? organized groups? impromptu groups for world boss dailies? role play? guild events? exactly what qualifies and what doesn't since Op, you said that interacting doesn't count.

personaly I like to do a trial at least once a week. I run dungeons on a whim, same for pvp. I group with my SO for easy pledges few times a week. i participate in guild events when I can manage. but I also prefer and spend bulk of my playtime not grouped with anyone. so which option would I chose?

aaand missed that it was a necro. ah well.

might as well edit in more stuffs. for the "why do you play mmo is you prefer to play solo" cause the world feels more alive with other people in it. cause I like being social in chat even if I'm questing on my own. cause I enjoy having an option of group play for when the mood strikes me, without it being a requirements. kinda the way I function in RL.

AcadianPaladin

Almost never.

I recall voting in this thread when it was new. I'm pleased to see that it still complies with my thinking that soloists comprise about a third of the players here. Though I don't participate in much grouping or nearly any PvP, I maintain that dungeon groupers, soloists and PvPers are all essential to maintain a healthy player base and I'm glad there is plenty for each to do.

That said, my point is simply to highlight that solo play is a very significant and important part of ESO.

barney2525

Not sure how to answer this.

Do they have to know that I'm 'grouping ' with them?

myskyrim26

Almost never.

Almost never. Resently I came to a guild that offers trial runs. I did some trials. Well, it can be fun, Sometimes. Yet I don't know why doing trials at all - what for? Veteran for gear and skins, I suppose, but normal - why? Just for fun?

Sylvermynx

Almost never.

Linaleah wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Um.... you mean in the way of a Tayledras mating circle? Well.... that might get me banned.... *joke*

I'm much more interested in why OP showed up here not so long ago, claiming many hours on all classes, and posting all these.... polls and other questions.

So yeah - my conspiracy theorist self wants to know if this is someone from Beth posting "anonymously".

Mercedes Lackey reference! I KNEW i liked you : P

as for poll, the answers are very odd. becasue all of those are subjective? and what do you mean by play exactly? are we talking pve group content? pvp in any form? organized groups? impromptu groups for world boss dailies? role play? guild events? exactly what qualifies and what doesn't since Op, you said that interacting doesn't count.

personaly I like to do a trial at least once a week. I run dungeons on a whim, same for pvp. I group with my SO for easy pledges few times a week. i participate in guild events when I can manage. but I also prefer and spend bulk of my playtime not grouped with anyone. so which option would I chose?

aaand missed that it was a necro. ah well.

might as well edit in more stuffs. for the "why do you play mmo is you prefer to play solo" cause the world feels more alive with other people in it. cause I like being social in chat even if I'm questing on my own. cause I enjoy having an option of group play for when the mood strikes me, without it being a requirements. kinda the way I function in RL.

Yeah, a necro, but at least an entertaining one! Yep, Misty is one of my long time fav authors. Along with Anne McCaffrey, Tolkien, April White (a fairly recent "acquisition"), Bradley, Asimov, and a list continuing for so long no one would really read it (and some of it would be incomprehensible to younger people generally - who besides me reads Ngaio Marsh or Elizabeth Goudge?)

Regardless the necro, I never did really explain my vote. The thing with MMOs is that the whole world feels alive, which is generally not the case in a SPMR (single player machine resident) game. I have a ping issue (not as bad as a couple months back - new provider is MUCH better, my ping dropped from 2k + ms to around 700 most of the time - MAJOR improvement), and therefore, it's not a thing I want to foist on anyone but the friends I have who play - and I only group with them when there's just no other option, because I truly hate to be a drag on anyone.

Now that my ping is lower by a lot, I'm slowly working out real rotations, and seeing improvement in how fast I can kill things, and how many mobs I can tackle. Also, I can actually bar swap reliably now, and I'm figuring out (slowly....) animation canceling and LA weaving. Wasn't possible a month ago. So I'm generally encouraged. But still, a liability is a liability - and satellite IS a liability.

FierceSam

A good amount.

I play with other people in groups almost every day, mainly doing dungeons and trials, where I’m usually in chat with some/all of the group

I’ve found group questing difficult unless you’re doing delve/world boss dailies and even then any of the questing elements are problematic..

jainiadral

Not at all.

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I recall voting in this thread when it was new. I'm pleased to see that it still complies with my thinking that soloists comprise about a third of the players here. Though I don't participate in much grouping or nearly any PvP, I maintain that dungeon groupers, soloists and PvPers are all essential to maintain a healthy player base and I'm glad there is plenty for each to do.

That said, my point is simply to highlight that solo play is a very significant and important part of ESO.

You forgot the 9% of uber-1337 soloists, those of us who avoid our fellow humans like vampires avoid the sun. Together the true soloists and solo-wannabes are 44%

Disclaimer: This poster wanted to finally be elite at something. Read post with an ocean's worth of grains of salt.

whitecrow

Almost never.

I assume you are not including things like dolmens, geysers, overland bosses, or wild dragons where there might be any number of other players.

Mostly I just quest solo. I used to do trials more often, but I got tired of them.

Chadak

Almost never.

I can't answer this question just by voting, as there is some relevant context.

I play with my wife as well as a friend of ours and his wife. We very often four-man whatever we can do together, and if we can't do it together, we don't do it at all.

Reason why we don't group with strangers #1: We don't want to play with randoms.

All four of us have extensive MMO-playing histories. We know what the randoms are like. We also play individually and solo stuff whenever it pleases any of us to just hop on and do whatever.

Reason why we don't group with strangers #2: We don't have time or interest in socializing with you.

You're probably just fine; we don't have time in our days for social obligations with internet people. Seriously, we don't. The only reason we hang out so often is that we all work together and literally live next door to each other. We all have social obligations that have nothing to do with each other as well.

There literally aren't enough hours in the day to add 'synch schedules up with random internet people and befriend them' in my day, my wife's day or our friends' days. Ain't happening. Hasn't happened in years. Won't happen anytime soon.


Reason why we don't group with strangers #3: You aren't at all convenient to us.

The four of us are often in my library, gaming together. We don't need to be on voice chat because we are literally in the same room, sitting no further than 3-4 meters apart. We don't want to all have to be on Discord or whatever voice program it is you use just to talk to you.

Sometimes we're not even all playing ESO, but we're often all talking about something, and you aren't involved. Most of the time, we're talking about things you aren't part of, events specific to our lives/work days, people you certainly don't know and ideas we wouldn't want to explain to you even if you were here.

I could go on, but I think I've glossed it sufficiently.

I'm not a big fan of grouping/gaming with randoms off the internet. I don't know you and I don't have time/interest to devote to getting to know you, because you're just going to be some rando off the internet in the course of my life no matter.

And that's not me trying to judge you. That's just the situation as it is, and saying it any other way would be disingenuous.

Deathlord92

I prefer playing alone only time I’m in a group it’s because I’m doing a dungeon that has mechanics that require more then 1 player.

Linaleah

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Um.... you mean in the way of a Tayledras mating circle? Well.... that might get me banned.... *joke*

I'm much more interested in why OP showed up here not so long ago, claiming many hours on all classes, and posting all these.... polls and other questions.

So yeah - my conspiracy theorist self wants to know if this is someone from Beth posting "anonymously".

Mercedes Lackey reference! I KNEW i liked you : P

as for poll, the answers are very odd. becasue all of those are subjective? and what do you mean by play exactly? are we talking pve group content? pvp in any form? organized groups? impromptu groups for world boss dailies? role play? guild events? exactly what qualifies and what doesn't since Op, you said that interacting doesn't count.

personaly I like to do a trial at least once a week. I run dungeons on a whim, same for pvp. I group with my SO for easy pledges few times a week. i participate in guild events when I can manage. but I also prefer and spend bulk of my playtime not grouped with anyone. so which option would I chose?

aaand missed that it was a necro. ah well.

might as well edit in more stuffs. for the "why do you play mmo is you prefer to play solo" cause the world feels more alive with other people in it. cause I like being social in chat even if I'm questing on my own. cause I enjoy having an option of group play for when the mood strikes me, without it being a requirements. kinda the way I function in RL.

Yeah, a necro, but at least an entertaining one! Yep, Misty is one of my long time fav authors. Along with Anne McCaffrey, Tolkien, April White (a fairly recent "acquisition"), Bradley, Asimov, and a list continuing for so long no one would really read it (and some of it would be incomprehensible to younger people generally - who besides me reads Ngaio Marsh or Elizabeth Goudge?)

Regardless the necro, I never did really explain my vote. The thing with MMOs is that the whole world feels alive, which is generally not the case in a SPMR (single player machine resident) game. I have a ping issue (not as bad as a couple months back - new provider is MUCH better, my ping dropped from 2k + ms to around 700 most of the time - MAJOR improvement), and therefore, it's not a thing I want to foist on anyone but the friends I have who play - and I only group with them when there's just no other option, because I truly hate to be a drag on anyone.

Now that my ping is lower by a lot, I'm slowly working out real rotations, and seeing improvement in how fast I can kill things, and how many mobs I can tackle. Also, I can actually bar swap reliably now, and I'm figuring out (slowly....) animation canceling and LA weaving. Wasn't possible a month ago. So I'm generally encouraged. But still, a liability is a liability - and satellite IS a liability.

I had to look up the last 2 authors you mentioned :P though at least i feel better about not having read Marsh, mostly cause crime and thriller fiction is not typically my preference. definitely adding Goudge to my tbr list - and well.. given that she was plagiarized very recently and J.K Rowling cites her as one of her inspirations, I guess people do still read her thanks for the recommendation!


congrats with new provider, hopefully it keeps improving from then on for you!

Cundu_Ertur

Is this just a tricky way to find out how often I play with myself?

Asking for a friend.

Sylvermynx

Almost never.

Linaleah wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Um.... you mean in the way of a Tayledras mating circle? Well.... that might get me banned.... *joke*

I'm much more interested in why OP showed up here not so long ago, claiming many hours on all classes, and posting all these.... polls and other questions.

So yeah - my conspiracy theorist self wants to know if this is someone from Beth posting "anonymously".

Mercedes Lackey reference! I KNEW i liked you : P

as for poll, the answers are very odd. becasue all of those are subjective? and what do you mean by play exactly? are we talking pve group content? pvp in any form? organized groups? impromptu groups for world boss dailies? role play? guild events? exactly what qualifies and what doesn't since Op, you said that interacting doesn't count.

personaly I like to do a trial at least once a week. I run dungeons on a whim, same for pvp. I group with my SO for easy pledges few times a week. i participate in guild events when I can manage. but I also prefer and spend bulk of my playtime not grouped with anyone. so which option would I chose?

aaand missed that it was a necro. ah well.

might as well edit in more stuffs. for the "why do you play mmo is you prefer to play solo" cause the world feels more alive with other people in it. cause I like being social in chat even if I'm questing on my own. cause I enjoy having an option of group play for when the mood strikes me, without it being a requirements. kinda the way I function in RL.

Yeah, a necro, but at least an entertaining one! Yep, Misty is one of my long time fav authors. Along with Anne McCaffrey, Tolkien, April White (a fairly recent "acquisition"), Bradley, Asimov, and a list continuing for so long no one would really read it (and some of it would be incomprehensible to younger people generally - who besides me reads Ngaio Marsh or Elizabeth Goudge?)

Regardless the necro, I never did really explain my vote. The thing with MMOs is that the whole world feels alive, which is generally not the case in a SPMR (single player machine resident) game. I have a ping issue (not as bad as a couple months back - new provider is MUCH better, my ping dropped from 2k + ms to around 700 most of the time - MAJOR improvement), and therefore, it's not a thing I want to foist on anyone but the friends I have who play - and I only group with them when there's just no other option, because I truly hate to be a drag on anyone.

Now that my ping is lower by a lot, I'm slowly working out real rotations, and seeing improvement in how fast I can kill things, and how many mobs I can tackle. Also, I can actually bar swap reliably now, and I'm figuring out (slowly....) animation canceling and LA weaving. Wasn't possible a month ago. So I'm generally encouraged. But still, a liability is a liability - and satellite IS a liability.

I had to look up the last 2 authors you mentioned :P though at least i feel better about not having read Marsh, mostly cause crime and thriller fiction is not typically my preference. definitely adding Goudge to my tbr list - and well.. given that she was plagiarized very recently and J.K Rowling cites her as one of her inspirations, I guess people do still read her thanks for the recommendation!


congrats with new provider, hopefully it keeps improving from then on for you!

My go to "get into the Christmas feeling" book is Goudge's Pilgrim's Inn. It never fails to please.... or cause me to cry. Now, that might seem like a dichotomy - but for me it's not. I'm not actually involved in Christian anything - so Christmas to me is just making husband happy (and getting to cook stuff I don't the rest of the year!) And Pilgrim's Inn nudges me in the right direction. It makes me want to deck the halls, and do some fancy cookies and stuff.... I didn't do that last year; husband had to have back surgery just before Christmas, so we didn't do the tree. I just did the other decorations, and yes, I did cook to excess!

Goudge's ability to describe a world now long in the past is the main draw though. I was born just after the end of WWII - and her ability to paint that world for me is - enlightening. I doubt I'd have as much empathy and knowledge had I simply listened to my father and uncles, and what they said about it. Yes, they had "boots on the ground" knowledge - but they didn't have any clue about what went on at home....

Admittedly, her viewpoint is British. But I'm Brit at heart (well.... Scots....) so that works for me!

Nerouyn

Almost never.

These days almost never.

Had mag wardens been good I'd have tried to play ESO seriously. But they weren't. With achievements being character bound I have no end of single player grind ahead of me anyway.

I am considering trying to play necro seriously. We'll see.

bmnoble

Almost never.

I do my pledges and random dungeon each day, sometimes a few extra randoms dungeons. The rare battleground when I feel like it.

Other than that I give guild members a hand every now and then, the rest of my time is spent playing solo.

Karacule_Fairystar

Almost never.

When I wanted to talk, no one seems to respond with a follow ups. Always the passive end-of-conversation-response.


I've been cheerful. At least
I tried.

Coggage

Not at all.

Kikke wrote: »

Why play a MMO if you want to play alone?

Well, since you asked - to buy their stuff and sell my stuff to them, essentially. That's all other players are worth to me. I have no interest in transient internet "friends", I have no interest in wasting my time doing what random people want to do because I want to do what interests ME. I have no interest in being with a group who think the height of social interaction is the occasional "Wut?", "Lol" or "WTF" defecated at random into the chatbox. Even if they do manage to string together an intelligible sentence in the chatbox I have no interest in what they watched on TV last night or what they have for snacks. At my advanced age I find I have nothing in common with the majority of players nor do I want to. Other players are handy in a cosmetic sense, in that they make the world seem alive, but other than that I couldn't care less.

ESO PvE is so easy that being in a group is unnecessary anyway and in Delves I am happy to o what everyone else does, which is to simply follow a group of people, achieve the completion award and get the usual (usually crappy) reward. I don't chat or bother looking at their names because we'll never see each other again in-game. Not everyone's cup of tea, granted, but it suits me perfectly.

7788b14_ESO

A good amount.

Kikke wrote: »

Why play a MMO if you want to play alone?

For the TES fans - You we can understand. You came from a singel player game and I can understand your quests for solitude.

But for the rest; Why?

An MMO is the ultimate single player game. It gets constant updates and the things other players do and say can never match whats been done with AI. The reason I mostly solo is it usually takes a long time to get groups together and even then there can be problems. It's easier to set your play times solo.

AcadianPaladin

Almost never.

@Chadak, I understand most of your approach to multiplayer, and glad it is working well for you.

I spend most of my time soloing because I truly enjoy just adventuring with my own little group (me, my elf, pet, horse). When I do group, it is often a pug because there is no social commitment or coordinating of schedules. I've had good luck with pugs since I normally play a supportive healer and she is pretty good at her role. Never been really 'abused' in a pug and would certainly insta-quit any such group.

Sometimes I duo with a friend and it is easy to coordinate our schedule for when it is sometimes convenient for both of us. Trying to coordinate a group of four though is like herding cats and quickly runs me out of patience and enjoyment as I end up spending more time organizing and waiting than playing. Being in a very active guild includes way more social drama and obligations than I want.

VelimOrthic

Almost never.

I'm like Seinfeld in the episode "The Kiss Hello", where he's horrified at the idea of getting to know his neighbors when everyone puts their name&picture on he wall. I love being around shittons and shittons of people. It feels spectacular. But try to force me to interact with them when I don't have to, I will react to that like an unhinged psychopath.

DarcyMardin

Almost never.

Sylvermynx wrote: »

Goudge's ability to describe a world now long in the past is the main draw though. I was born just after the end of WWII - and her ability to paint that world for me is - enlightening. I doubt I'd have as much empathy and knowledge had I simply listened to my father and uncles, and what they said about it. Yes, they had "boots on the ground" knowledge - but they didn't have any clue about what went on at home....

Admittedly, her viewpoint is British. But I'm Brit at heart (well.... Scots....) so that works for me!

I’ve read all the authors you mentioned, although not recently. (I’m of the same generation as you). But the one I re-read every year is another Scot—Dorothy Dunnett. If you haven’t read her works, especially the Lymond Chronicles, I highly recommend her books.

Now back to ESO...