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Roguish Escape Draught: Major Expedition 28.7s

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Still wanna do stam sorc kiter style? Try this potion.
  • GreenHere
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    They'll nerf this too! What's the matter with you?!

    PC/NA :: ESO+ ....... If you for some reason care to know my character setup (as of early 2021), here ya go:
    [EP] :: Imperial Dragonknight - Retired Cyrodiil Soldier, Master Crafter & Fisherman
    [EP] :: Argonian Dragonknight - Fire-breathing Dragon Tank
    [EP] :: Dunmer Dragonknight - Flame Dancer, Battlemage
    [EP] :: Dunmer Nightblade - Former Vampire, Dark Healer/Tank
    [EP] :: Dunmer Nightblade - Vampire, Assassin
    [EP] :: Argonian Warden - Hist Mender, Lore Seeker
    [AD] :: Imperial Templar - Group Leader, Healing Tank
    [AD] :: Altmer Templar - Florist, Golden Light Apprentice
    [AD] :: Altmer Sorcerer - Lightning Mage, Hates Twilights
    [AD] :: Altmer Sorcerer - Factotum Tank, Dark Magic Dabbler
    [AD] :: Bosmer Warden - Stamina Healer (yes, really!), Acrobat
    [AD] :: Khajiit NB - "This one is not a thief, honest! Your pockets were already empty!"
    [DC] :: Nord Warden - Werewolf Tank, Annoying Ice-Slinging Drunkard
    [DC] :: Breton Templar - Dedicated Healer, Psijic Inductee
    [DC] :: Redguard Templar - Warrior, Adventurer, Undaunted
    [DC] :: Stam Sorc - Storm Orc!, Werewolf Berserker
    [DC] :: Khajiit Nightblade - StamBlade, Merciless Mercenary
    [DC] :: Argonian Necromancer - Unscrupulous Power-Seeking Lunatic
    ???
  • Pulque
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    GreenHere wrote: »
    SHHHHHH




    They'll nerf this too! What's the matter with you?!

    Well this one looks ok, it doesn't have immovability. Like literally you trade one trait for more expedition time. Like how stupid can they be to nerf this potion? Also zos is busy with nerfing infuse dw and fixing graphic rending issue. Chill bro.
  • GreenHere
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    ccmedaddy wrote: »
    Pulque wrote: »
    Like how stupid can they be to nerf this potion?
    ZOS: hold my beer...

    This guy gets it! haha

    I would not put anything past them at this point.

    PC/NA :: ESO+ ....... If you for some reason care to know my character setup (as of early 2021), here ya go:
    [EP] :: Imperial Dragonknight - Retired Cyrodiil Soldier, Master Crafter & Fisherman
    [EP] :: Argonian Dragonknight - Fire-breathing Dragon Tank
    [EP] :: Dunmer Dragonknight - Flame Dancer, Battlemage
    [EP] :: Dunmer Nightblade - Former Vampire, Dark Healer/Tank
    [EP] :: Dunmer Nightblade - Vampire, Assassin
    [EP] :: Argonian Warden - Hist Mender, Lore Seeker
    [AD] :: Imperial Templar - Group Leader, Healing Tank
    [AD] :: Altmer Templar - Florist, Golden Light Apprentice
    [AD] :: Altmer Sorcerer - Lightning Mage, Hates Twilights
    [AD] :: Altmer Sorcerer - Factotum Tank, Dark Magic Dabbler
    [AD] :: Bosmer Warden - Stamina Healer (yes, really!), Acrobat
    [AD] :: Khajiit NB - "This one is not a thief, honest! Your pockets were already empty!"
    [DC] :: Nord Warden - Werewolf Tank, Annoying Ice-Slinging Drunkard
    [DC] :: Breton Templar - Dedicated Healer, Psijic Inductee
    [DC] :: Redguard Templar - Warrior, Adventurer, Undaunted
    [DC] :: Stam Sorc - Storm Orc!, Werewolf Berserker
    [DC] :: Khajiit Nightblade - StamBlade, Merciless Mercenary
    [DC] :: Argonian Necromancer - Unscrupulous Power-Seeking Lunatic
    ???
  • Galarthor
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    Pulque wrote: »
    GreenHere wrote: »
    SHHHHHH




    They'll nerf this too! What's the matter with you?!

    Well this one looks ok, it doesn't have immovability. Like literally you trade one trait for more expedition time. Like how stupid can they be to nerf this potion? Also zos is busy with nerfing infuse dw and fixing graphic rending issue. Chill bro.

    The immovability portion of the potions was not the problem. It was the high speed and it's high uptime (low cost) in conjunction with Forward Momentum.

    Since this potion meets all these criteria it should be nerfed.
  • Pulque
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    Galarthor wrote: »
    Pulque wrote: »
    GreenHere wrote: »
    SHHHHHH




    They'll nerf this too! What's the matter with you?!

    Well this one looks ok, it doesn't have immovability. Like literally you trade one trait for more expedition time. Like how stupid can they be to nerf this potion? Also zos is busy with nerfing infuse dw and fixing graphic rending issue. Chill bro.

    The immovability portion of the potions was not the problem. It was the high speed and it's high uptime (low cost) in conjunction with Forward Momentum.

    Since this potion meets all these criteria it should be nerfed.

    True. Man this game is getting unplayable, dw infuse cancer, pve trial graphic rending bug. If they nerf this potion, I won't subscribe eso plus until next DLC.
  • Jjitsuboy98
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    Thank god of Alaska that these potions are still here. Efff immovable
  • evoniee
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  • IZZEFlameLash
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    It doesn't have crazy uptime. So... yeah. It won't be nerfed most likely.
    Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel
  • TheYKcid
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    Guess I'll be resuming my daily visits to the Shadowy Supplier! Until ZOS inevitably nerfs this, at least...
    PC/NA — Daggerfall Covenant — BGs, Kaalgrontiid
    Kalazar ChalhoubRedguard Nord Stamplar
    Kalaron Caemor — Altmer Magsorc
    Kalahad Cirith — Dunmer Magden
  • Pulque
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    Hey zos, this potion is encouraging people doing shwdowy supplier, which will increase sell of Dark Brotherhood. If you nerf this before most people purchase that dlc, you lose the sell. Pls reconsider nerfing this. Thx.
  • ATomiX96
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    nah the meta is skooma smuggler with infused potion cooldown jewelry

    /sarcasm or maybe not ? :thinking:
  • IZZEFlameLash
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    You know... I changed my mind. NERF THIS POTION TO 2 SECONDS.
    Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel
  • Liam12548
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    I'll probably try these once speed pots get nerfed on console. However, I wouldn't say these are op in comparison to everything else. You're giving up an immovable window and 20 seconds of your major sustain buff for extra expedition that still won't even be a 75% uptime
    React Faster - XB NA - Solo & Small scale PvP player - 100k+ AvA kills - Too many BG games to count until MMR made them unplayable
    1500+ CP
    Characters
    Heal R - AD Orc Templar - AR 50
    Flee's - AD Breton Blade - AR 35 - Played as both mag and stam
    Or Sorc - AD Breton Sorcerer - AR 36 - Played as both mag and stam
    Bearenstein - AD Nord Warden - AR 26 - Played as both mag and stam
    Heel'Ar - AD Nord Dragonknight - AR 25
    Your Dad's Dad - AD Breton Dragonknight - AR 23
    Second Class Citizen - DC Breton Templar - AR 25
    Necropheyele - AD Nord Necromancer - AR 12

    @ReactSlower - PC NA
    1000+ CP
    Characters
    New Server New Me - Nord Templar
    Temporary Name - Nord Necromancer
    Plays with Controller - Nord Warden
    Slow Sorc - Nord Sorcerer
    H'eh - Khajiit Nightblade
    Noxifier - Nord Dragonknight

    Content
    Solo Outnumbered Midyear Mayhem - Stamplar & Stamsorc - PC NA

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=L-sTYbcPTIA
  • Stigant
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    Reduced the duration of Major Expedition granted from potions, to be more in line with other powerful Major buffs such as Major Vitality.
    For a potion at maximum rank, this reduces the duration of Major Expedition from 40.6 second to 12.5 seconds, before any modifications from things such as enchantments or passives.
    Developer Comment:
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    Due to the pass on mobility, we wanted to ensure you couldn't readily keep this buff active 100% without spending more attention to it. Due to the old duration of this buff from potions, these were a direct conflict with that vision.


    In my opinion that potion is an oversight as same as they missed the Skooma Smuggler set.
    This is now creating even more inconsistencies within the game. God bless I'm not a new player, it has to be a hell trying to understand this game as a newcomer.

    Yet another alarming fact that they don't even remember what have they put into the game.

    Until we get official statement I believe it's not intended to be kept like this and they simply forgot about this potion.
    Edited by Stigant on October 27, 2018 2:40PM
  • Liam12548
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    Stigant wrote: »
    Reduced the duration of Major Expedition granted from potions, to be more in line with other powerful Major buffs such as Major Vitality.
    For a potion at maximum rank, this reduces the duration of Major Expedition from 40.6 second to 12.5 seconds, before any modifications from things such as enchantments or passives.
    Developer Comment:
    Spoiler
    Due to the pass on mobility, we wanted to ensure you couldn't readily keep this buff active 100% without spending more attention to it. Due to the old duration of this buff from potions, these were a direct conflict with that vision.


    In my opinion that potion is an oversight as same as they missed the Skooma Smuggler set.
    This is now creating even more inconsistencies within the game. God bless I'm not a new player, it has to be a hell trying to understand this game as a newcomer.

    Yet another alarming fact that they don't even remember what have they put into the game.

    Until we get official statement I believe it's not intended to be kept like this and they simply forgot about this potion.

    But this option never had a 42 second expedition, nor does it have a full length major regen buff.
    React Faster - XB NA - Solo & Small scale PvP player - 100k+ AvA kills - Too many BG games to count until MMR made them unplayable
    1500+ CP
    Characters
    Heal R - AD Orc Templar - AR 50
    Flee's - AD Breton Blade - AR 35 - Played as both mag and stam
    Or Sorc - AD Breton Sorcerer - AR 36 - Played as both mag and stam
    Bearenstein - AD Nord Warden - AR 26 - Played as both mag and stam
    Heel'Ar - AD Nord Dragonknight - AR 25
    Your Dad's Dad - AD Breton Dragonknight - AR 23
    Second Class Citizen - DC Breton Templar - AR 25
    Necropheyele - AD Nord Necromancer - AR 12

    @ReactSlower - PC NA
    1000+ CP
    Characters
    New Server New Me - Nord Templar
    Temporary Name - Nord Necromancer
    Plays with Controller - Nord Warden
    Slow Sorc - Nord Sorcerer
    H'eh - Khajiit Nightblade
    Noxifier - Nord Dragonknight

    Content
    Solo Outnumbered Midyear Mayhem - Stamplar & Stamsorc - PC NA

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=L-sTYbcPTIA
  • Stigant
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    Liam12548 wrote: »
    Stigant wrote: »
    Reduced the duration of Major Expedition granted from potions, to be more in line with other powerful Major buffs such as Major Vitality.
    For a potion at maximum rank, this reduces the duration of Major Expedition from 40.6 second to 12.5 seconds, before any modifications from things such as enchantments or passives.
    Developer Comment:
    Spoiler
    Due to the pass on mobility, we wanted to ensure you couldn't readily keep this buff active 100% without spending more attention to it. Due to the old duration of this buff from potions, these were a direct conflict with that vision.


    In my opinion that potion is an oversight as same as they missed the Skooma Smuggler set.
    This is now creating even more inconsistencies within the game. God bless I'm not a new player, it has to be a hell trying to understand this game as a newcomer.

    Yet another alarming fact that they don't even remember what have they put into the game.

    Until we get official statement I believe it's not intended to be kept like this and they simply forgot about this potion.

    But this option never had a 42 second expedition, nor does it have a full length major regen buff.

    True, but still inconsistent with the rest of the changes.
    Wait for that outrage when people start complaining about having to go to shadowy supplier to have an RNG chance to get it or to grind Thieves Troves to stack up a reasonable ammount to stay competitive in PvP, or to buy them off of guild stores.
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    PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo

    Stream: twitch.tv/THOGARDvsThePeasants
    YouTube: http://youtube.com/c/thogardpvp


  • Stigant
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    ATomiX96 wrote: »
    nah the meta is skooma smuggler with infused potion cooldown jewelry

    /sarcasm or maybe not ? :thinking:

    Was actually considering to go this route ... lvl up an Argonian magBlade and give it a shot together with Spinner/Alchemist front bar and skeleton monster set, vMA resto backbar.

    Maybe even HA Alchemist and Zaan monster set to cheese it up.
  • killahsin
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    dont the crown store pots also still have the longer timer?
  • Minno
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    Stigant wrote: »
    Reduced the duration of Major Expedition granted from potions, to be more in line with other powerful Major buffs such as Major Vitality.
    For a potion at maximum rank, this reduces the duration of Major Expedition from 40.6 second to 12.5 seconds, before any modifications from things such as enchantments or passives.
    Developer Comment:
    Spoiler
    Due to the pass on mobility, we wanted to ensure you couldn't readily keep this buff active 100% without spending more attention to it. Due to the old duration of this buff from potions, these were a direct conflict with that vision.


    In my opinion that potion is an oversight as same as they missed the Skooma Smuggler set.
    This is now creating even more inconsistencies within the game. God bless I'm not a new player, it has to be a hell trying to understand this game as a newcomer.

    Yet another alarming fact that they don't even remember what have they put into the game.

    Until we get official statement I believe it's not intended to be kept like this and they simply forgot about this potion.

    Lol they didn't miss anything. Unless you consider overnerfed speed sources as them missing the entire reason for looking into speed.

    As far as I am concerned, this thread is just noise.
    Edited by Minno on October 27, 2018 11:57PM
  • Trinity_Is_My_Name
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    Now you've gone and done it! It will be nerfed now. Thanks.
  • IZZEFlameLash
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    TheYKcid wrote: »
    It doesn't have crazy uptime. So... yeah. It won't be nerfed most likely.

    That's not how things work around here.

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    Lol I guess I agree.
    Imperials, the one and true masters of all mortal races of Tamriel
  • frostz417
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    Where do you get this potion
  • Stigant
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    Not saying I agree with the changes made to sources of major expedition, honestly feel like adjusting the swift trait would have been enough to starts with controlling players speed.
    Just saying it seems to me that they are failing with executing their own design choices, nefring potion sources of major expedition on all but one as well as nerfing all sources of major expedition on all sets but one certainly makes this sneaky impression that they forgot about those, I'd really like to see official statement and reasoning behind leaving those unchanged. Just out of curiosity
  • Stigant
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    frostz417 wrote: »
    Where do you get this potion

    Thieves Troves and Shadowy Supplier
  • frostz417
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    Stigant wrote: »
    frostz417 wrote: »
    Where do you get this potion

    Thieves Troves and Shadowy Supplier

    Hehehehe you have my thanks
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