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Stamblade 1vX Murkmire patch

TheRealSniker
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Thoughts?
(Its not me in the thumbnail)
Edited by TheRealSniker on October 26, 2018 6:47PM
  • Minno
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    It's you in the thumbnail.

    And he has to show us his photo to get us to believe it isn't his face in the thumbnail :trollface:
  • Ragnaroek93
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    0:56 kek
  • The_Camper
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    Always love the music you use <3
  • THE_BIG_BOSS
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    Is He exploiting dual wield enchants?
  • dagonbeer
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    Is He exploiting dual wield enchants?

    No, he's on 2h/bow.

    Besides, the DW enchant thing is not an exploit, it's raising the floor and lowering the ceiling. You counter play that change by not dying /s

  • TheRealSniker
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    Is He exploiting dual wield enchants?

    yes
  • Xeniph
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    This is has to be all scripted!

    Because clearly pvp is UNPLAYABLE this patch, and everyone is using Trugs+ DW/DW.

    /sarcasm off

    Good stuff man.
    Stamina/ Magicka

    Phenîx- NB / Phenix- NB
    Xineph- DK / Xéniph- DK
    Phénix- Sorc/ Xeniph- Sorc
    Phinex -Temp/ Phènix- Templar
  • AyelineESO
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    Xeniph wrote: »
    This is has to be all scripted!

    Because clearly pvp is UNPLAYABLE this patch, and everyone is using Trugs+ DW/DW.

    /sarcasm off

    Good stuff man.

    You actually really dont feel it as much as others when you are a NB. Im NB myself and I can imagine why people want it nerfed.

    btt:

    good stuff dude
    EU - PC
    Banana Squad Inc | Zerg Squad | AoE Rats | Roleplay Circle

    Raid/Solo character(s):
    AD | Šûbtêrráñêàñ Åššãûlt | Lvl 50 Stamden | AR 23

    Solo/ Smallscale characters:
    DC | Šhaðë | Lvl 50 StamNB | AR 50 | GO reached: 30.10.2015
    AD | Ðawñbrêåkêr | Lvl 50 StamNB | AR 44

    Ex-Raid characters
    AD | Lord Ayeline | Lvl 50 Stam Sorc | AR 38
    AD | Ayelíne | Lvl 50 Stam DK | AR 22
    EP | Get Meme'd Kid | Lvl 50 Stam Sorc | AR 36
    EP | Àyèlìnè | Lvl 50 Stam Warden | AR Pleb
  • TheYKcid
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    dagonbeer wrote: »
    Is He exploiting dual wield enchants?

    No, he's on 2h/bow.

    Besides, the DW enchant thing is not an exploit, it's raising the floor and lowering the ceiling. You counter play that change by not dying /s

    I've actually migrated back to 2H/bow with medium armor this patch.

    Doesn't deliver nearly as much damage as the enchant abuse, obviously, but I feel much more survivable due to the mobility which is once again a defining feature of this setup.

    Feels much more reliable and versatile than heavy/DW/2H for fighting outnumbered.
    PC/NA — Daggerfall Covenant — BGs, Kaalgrontiid
    Kalazar ChalhoubRedguard Nord Stamplar
    Kalaron Caemor — Altmer Magsorc
    Kalahad Cirith — Dunmer Magden
  • killahsin
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    as soon as i see a bow i stop watching
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    Xeniph wrote: »
    This is has to be all scripted!

    Because clearly pvp is UNPLAYABLE this patch, and everyone is using Trugs+ DW/DW.

    /sarcasm off

    Good stuff man.

    Everything is „playable“ to an extent. The question is: Is it fun? And I don‘t think abusing a broken mechanic falls under that category for many people.

    Main characters:
    Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 41 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)
    Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)

    Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial Necromancer
    Fearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)
    Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)
    Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDK
    Valirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBlade
    Turuna - AD Altmer magBlade
    Kheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDK
    Kibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - Stormproof
    Yavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWarden
    Azog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWarden
    Vidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDK
    Marquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - Stormproof
    Rawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWarden
    Tu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar

    All chars 50 @ CP 1100+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.
  • xselfish
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    Do you mind going over your movement speed set up? You still got swift on or changed to steed? I’m on Xbox so haven’t been able to test anything.
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    0:56 kek

    Haha... Well done that man!
    Minalan owes me a beer.

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    Minie Mo - Stam/Magblade - DC
    Woody Ron - Stamplar - DC
    Aidee - Magsorc - DC
    Notadorf - Stamsorc - DC
    Khattman Doo - Stamblade - Relegated to Crafter, cos AD.
  • TheRealSniker
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    xselfish wrote: »
    Do you mind going over your movement speed set up? You still got swift on or changed to steed? I’m on Xbox so haven’t been able to test anything.

    No i dont have anything that would increase my movement speed, Im used to this mobility since I didnt hump the swift meta before aswell
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    AyelineESO wrote: »
    Xeniph wrote: »
    This is has to be all scripted!

    Because clearly pvp is UNPLAYABLE this patch, and everyone is using Trugs+ DW/DW.

    /sarcasm off

    Good stuff man.

    You actually really dont feel it as much as others when you are a NB. Im NB myself and I can imagine why people want it nerfed.

    btt:

    good stuff dude

    People who say that medium stamblade should be nerfed are delusional and never played the build themselves to realize its weak and strong sides
    The reason why nightblade is so strong is because there is too much cheese in the game and nightblades are the best at abusing cheese mechanics, the games state right now is the worst ever since the launch
    Zenimax has failed to make other playstyles more viable by forcing "counterplay mechanics against tanks" upon us that include unmitgateable damage types like bleeding and oblivion damage
    Edited by TheRealSniker on October 27, 2018 4:41PM
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    Nice video, really appreciate the 1440p and readable combat log.
    Aznox
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    Khajiit Orc Bosmer Stamina Sorcerer and Werewolf
    Currently enjoys a bit of loneliness in Shor no-CP Imperial City
    Battleground regular and Dueling addict
    Theorycrafting enthusiast
    CP1000+ club
  • AyelineESO
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    AyelineESO wrote: »
    Xeniph wrote: »
    This is has to be all scripted!

    Because clearly pvp is UNPLAYABLE this patch, and everyone is using Trugs+ DW/DW.

    /sarcasm off

    Good stuff man.

    You actually really dont feel it as much as others when you are a NB. Im NB myself and I can imagine why people want it nerfed.

    btt:

    good stuff dude

    People who say that medium stamblade should be nerfed are delusional and never played the build themselves to realize its weak and strong sides
    The reason why nightblade is so strong is because there is too much cheese in the game and nightblades are the best at abusing cheese mechanics, the games state right now is the worst ever since the launch
    Zenimax has failed to make other playstyles more viable by forcing "counterplay mechanics against tanks" upon us that include unmitgateable damage types like bleeding and oblivion damage

    I think you are misunderstanding me there. I didnt say I can understand why people want medium stamNB nerfed but that I can understand why people want the procc stuff nerfed. Furthermore I stated that I as a NB am not really as affected by the enchant procc stuff as other classes might be.

    But maybe I am just misunderstanding your response right now, who knows.
    Edited by AyelineESO on October 27, 2018 5:59PM
    EU - PC
    Banana Squad Inc | Zerg Squad | AoE Rats | Roleplay Circle

    Raid/Solo character(s):
    AD | Šûbtêrráñêàñ Åššãûlt | Lvl 50 Stamden | AR 23

    Solo/ Smallscale characters:
    DC | Šhaðë | Lvl 50 StamNB | AR 50 | GO reached: 30.10.2015
    AD | Ðawñbrêåkêr | Lvl 50 StamNB | AR 44

    Ex-Raid characters
    AD | Lord Ayeline | Lvl 50 Stam Sorc | AR 38
    AD | Ayelíne | Lvl 50 Stam DK | AR 22
    EP | Get Meme'd Kid | Lvl 50 Stam Sorc | AR 36
    EP | Àyèlìnè | Lvl 50 Stam Warden | AR Pleb
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    AyelineESO wrote: »
    Xeniph wrote: »
    This is has to be all scripted!

    Because clearly pvp is UNPLAYABLE this patch, and everyone is using Trugs+ DW/DW.

    /sarcasm off

    Good stuff man.

    You actually really dont feel it as much as others when you are a NB. Im NB myself and I can imagine why people want it nerfed.

    btt:

    good stuff dude

    People who say that medium stamblade should be nerfed are delusional and never played the build themselves to realize its weak and strong sides
    The reason why nightblade is so strong is because there is too much cheese in the game and nightblades are the best at abusing cheese mechanics, the games state right now is the worst ever since the launch
    Zenimax has failed to make other playstyles more viable by forcing "counterplay mechanics against tanks" upon us that include unmitgateable damage types like bleeding and oblivion damage

    Agree and disagree. Yes stamblade in medium armor with pure stat based sets is harder to play then other variants of stamblade supported by memes like heavy armor , bleeds , troll king , proc sets etc. Yes stamblade is the best setup to abuse cheesy playstyles and cheesy sets. However saying that stamblade is strong only because of possibility to abuse sets is not entirely correct. If we would for example compare how all stamina classes wearing medium armor and pure stat based sets are performing stamblade would still won in that comparison especially when it comes to 1vX. Yes that setup have drawbacks but all classes have them yet not all classes are having acces to so much goodies as stamblade also I think drawbacks of stamblade are much lower then drawbacks of many other setups.
  • xselfish
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    xselfish wrote: »
    Do you mind going over your movement speed set up? You still got swift on or changed to steed? I’m on Xbox so haven’t been able to test anything.

    No i dont have anything that would increase my movement speed, Im used to this mobility since I didnt hump the swift meta before aswell

    Oh okay, looks like you are moving fast that’s all. Thanks for the response.
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    Cool vid snooker
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    "..A world without fire. Ashen one, is this truly thy wish?.."


  • killahsin
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    AyelineESO wrote: »
    Xeniph wrote: »
    This is has to be all scripted!

    Because clearly pvp is UNPLAYABLE this patch, and everyone is using Trugs+ DW/DW.

    /sarcasm off

    Good stuff man.

    You actually really dont feel it as much as others when you are a NB. Im NB myself and I can imagine why people want it nerfed.

    btt:

    good stuff dude

    People who say that medium stamblade should be nerfed are delusional and never played the build themselves to realize its weak and strong sides
    The reason why nightblade is so strong is because there is too much cheese in the game and nightblades are the best at abusing cheese mechanics, the games state right now is the worst ever since the launch
    Zenimax has failed to make other playstyles more viable by forcing "counterplay mechanics against tanks" upon us that include unmitgateable damage types like bleeding and oblivion damage

    Agree and disagree. Yes stamblade in medium armor with pure stat based sets is harder to play then other variants of stamblade supported by memes like heavy armor , bleeds , troll king , proc sets etc. Yes stamblade is the best setup to abuse cheesy playstyles and cheesy sets. However saying that stamblade is strong only because of possibility to abuse sets is not entirely correct. If we would for example compare how all stamina classes wearing medium armor and pure stat based sets are performing stamblade would still won in that comparison especially when it comes to 1vX. Yes that setup have drawbacks but all classes have them yet not all classes are having acces to so much goodies as stamblade also I think drawbacks of stamblade are much lower then drawbacks of many other setups.

    one could argue that 'pure' stamblade in medium is as much as a meme as sustain in heavy or hybrid or any other meta. This is my biggest criticism of the eso pvp community. The 'my build isnt a trash build but yours is' All builds are meta and all builds are gimmick and all builds are some sort of cheese. It's why you enjoy them. Just like bow users and the reason they use a bow is not a negative. It's a preference.
  • joe.smith21b14_ESO
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    Why you always picking on the bananas? It’s like picking on the special kids. What a bully.
    Smiff
  • TheRealSniker
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    Why you always picking on the bananas? It’s like picking on the special kids. What a bully.

    haha, thats because AD have the biggest zergs and are the most active in the Alliance war
    Bleakers and Aleswell are usually dead pvp spots on PC EU unless its primetime
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