Grade this patch

  • aeowulf
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    F
    Complete lack of care and attention the the changes for class balance. They highlighted this lack of consideration applied to the under played roles for each class. ZoS still seem to only care about DK as Tanks, NB as DPS etc. Classes are meant to have multiple roles. Roles that were targetted were the ones played by significant numbers.
    Edited by aeowulf on October 29, 2018 11:10AM
  • ScardyFox
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    aeowulf wrote: »
    Complete lack of care and attention the the changes for class balance. They highlighted the lack of care and consideration applied to the under played roles for each class. ZoS still seem to only care about DK as Tanks, NB as DPS etc. Classes are meant to have multiple roles - not entirely sure why the healer role isn't just greyed out for DK etc

    Don't forget, on top of lack of attention, that they also ignored the class reps who said this is a horrid idea. I feel bad for the class reps, they basically got an ornamental title to be used as a whipping boy/distraction when some of them clearly try very hard to do a good job.
  • SosRuvaak
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    F
    i come back to check this thread daily just to see more people have put their vote in, for a bad grade.
    haven't seen any [Z] comments in the thread yet, do they know they screwed up?
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  • max_only
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    D
    Turelus wrote: »
    In PvE or PvP and what build? As everyone I know that plays warden is super happy with the changes and been enjoying the update.

    Everyone you know? Really. You haven’t heard of any people who aren’t happy about the changes? Really.
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  • jhall03
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    D
    Some good changes that are in the right direction but too many oversights that change things too much at one time.
  • pod88kk
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    C
    Not able to give a fair opinion as it has not released on consoles yet
  • Ufretin
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    F
    F for the base game patch and "balance" changes. The actual Murkmire content isn't as terrible.
  • Tucker3711
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    F
    Now my game crashes... I am running into bugs everywhere! An Orc on a quest became a mute argonian... (Long story) Coral undead mudcrabs invasion... (Also Long Story) And a very bizarre Kvatch Arena spectator... Yeah None of this before the update...
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  • Turelus
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    max_only wrote: »

    Everyone you know? Really. You haven’t heard of any people who aren’t happy about the changes? Really.
    Not for Warden no, then again the people I play with are much more akin to rolling with changes in MMO's.
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  • kamimark
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    F
    Massive performance hit on Mac.
    Pets broken in overworld.
    Sorc nerf.
    Warden nerf.
    Murkmire is yet another endless horrible swamp. Because if Shadowfen is the least popular zone, we must want more of it.
    Broken crafting stations in guild halls.

    1 point for reorganizing characters, -100,000 for everything else.
    Edited by kamimark on October 29, 2018 10:21PM
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  • Lisutaris
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    B
    Would have been better if the hotfix/newest patch was already included...

    ... But to be honest ... i could imagine much worse ^^'''

    Overall i would rate the content update and changes pretty good, because they want to touch some hot problematic stuff ;) and hopefully get it right.
    If something gets nerfed/buffed in the process... its not really a factor to grade an update.
    The broken crafting/interactive stations, pets, headless monsters etc. (good for you its halloween time! :open_mouth: ) are another story. Because of the quick fix i would still rate it b-c, more b ^^
  • WeylandLabs
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    Haven't played it and don't really care, but good luck everyone 👌
  • Elsonso
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    max_only wrote: »

    Everyone you know? Really. You haven’t heard of any people who aren’t happy about the changes? Really.

    I am not other people, and I don't play like them, but I have no additional problems with magicka Wardens from Murkmire right now. My main problem with the Warden class is that I tend to play it too much like a Sorcerer and I need to break out of that.

    Also, my "C" grade stands, mainly due to execution of the patch rollout (build quality, regressions, and general turmoil requiring hot fixes and special maintenance)
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  • Actually_Goku
    Actually_Goku
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    F
    F to pay respects.

    RIP
  • Sylvermynx
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    I am not other people, and I don't play like them, but I have no additional problems with magicka Wardens from Murkmire right now. My main problem with the Warden class is that I tend to play it too much like a Sorcerer and I need to break out of that.

    Also, my "C" grade stands, mainly due to execution of the patch rollout (build quality, regressions, and general turmoil requiring hot fixes and special maintenance)

    Due to a hardware issue this (entire!) morning, I still haven't got on my sorcs. Your post does give me hope though. After I get done in town tomorrow, I hope to get on them (and the magden, ditto, no time so far) and see what's up.
  • carlos424
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    Glurin wrote: »

    Well that's the thing about balance. Sometimes it requires that you cause a river of tears to flow.
    If you’re talking about stam getting stronger and magic getting weaker, then ya, good balance. Enjoy your stam characters. Lol. Pretty obvious.
  • ScardyFox
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    F
    F to pay respects.

    RIP
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  • idrankyourbeer
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    i just realised not too long ago that i can re-order my character list

    which is great, because now after the nerfmire patch gimping my shields and removing third bar, i no longer have to look at any of my magsorc's anymore.

    i give it an A for convience. with that out of the way ive been able to spend alot more time playing other games lately.
  • Gargath
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    A
    There's obviously some confusion here by the development team so perhaps this format will assist future changes. Make sure to be honest now....
    Almost 550 votes and the majority of voters evaluating the patch very low. But if there are over milion accounts, I believe this majority has no impact on the development team. Can't assume for sure that's the representative majority of all ESO players.

    Edited by Gargath on October 31, 2018 10:29AM
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  • Turelus
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    B
    Gargath wrote: »
    Almost 550 votes and the majority of voters evaluating the patch very low. But if there are over milion accounts, I believe this majority has no impact on the development team. Can't assume for sure that's the representative majority of all ESO players.
    I think they will (and have) take note of the thread, but I don't think they're going to change up their entire design teams or structures based on it.

    The fact they've moved the reps to an NDA so they can talk about changes earlier could be one sign of them taking note how badly Murkmire was received.

    I do agree though, this poll as many votes as it has is a tiny portion of the games community. Most people don't bother with the forums, and even then many who do haven't voted.

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  • Azurya
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    A
    I like the patch so far, revered some builds according to alcast his info on stamina builds and magicka builds.

    It works fine, haven´t been to Murkmire so far due to all this respeccing and trying to find my new balance, playing 15 ladies so far.
    I like it so far, Cyrodil is more alive then most of the last year, and I love it very much now!

    Facit: Good Patch
  • Mizael
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    D
    Bugnermire :D
  • rabidmyers
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    F
    F for FIX!
    at a place nobody knows
  • Elsonso
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    C
    Turelus wrote: »
    The fact they've moved the reps to an NDA so they can talk about changes earlier could be one sign of them taking note how badly Murkmire was received.

    I don't think the NDA has anything to do with Murkmire. I think that Murkmire is out, now, so they are starting to focus on the next Chapter and the NDA is for that.
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  • Rak_am
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    F
    PS4 EU the game now is totally garbage...
    all vet trial : bug
    pvp : bug/lag/crash
    BG : ok... depend of the hour, otherwise lag
    lag : everywhere...
    chat : bug
    cash shop ok (lol)

    please do something zenimax... please delete murkmire..
    zenimax, FIX THE GAME
  • HighKinlady
    HighKinlady
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    C
    pvp is rough right now .
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  • Anotherone773
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    D
    Looks at the glaring red notice at the top of the forums "We are aware that some Steam players are having issues logging into the North American and European PC/Mac megaservers. We are actively investigating and will let you know when we have an update. Thank you!" ....

    .... I dont know why its getting a bad grade. Its not like people can log in to analyze it.
  • CrisXD
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    F
    I was dreading this patch after hearing about some of the changes. I was right to. There might 1 or 2 very small changes I like but overall I feel like ZOS have taken the game 7000 steps backwards and in the wrong direction.

    Not a fan.


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  • Cpt_Teemo
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    F
    Not really playing ESO much atm anyway just doing my writs every day and decorating rarely, just heard its one of the worst patches ever so far though
  • dovakiin5574
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    A
    I enjoy the game no matter what patches do, but I do like this one.

    #HatersGonnaHate
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