Grade this patch

Mojomonkeyman

F

Everything that couldve been good this patch is overshadowed by the bleed/single target dots proccing glyphs mess.

Jayelf

F

ban me please i mite be better off.

ScardyFox

F

Mojomonkeyman wrote: »

Everything that couldve been good this patch is overshadowed by the bleed/single target dots proccing glyphs mess.

Exactly how I feel.

Ratzkifal

F

For every non-american, what do these letters mean exactly? Like is D still alright because F is failure or is D just slightly better than F? E is not a thing right?

I am giving this patch a solid 2/5 but at least my templar is fun and the new weapons look cool.

GreenHere

F

Ratzkifal wrote: »

For every non-american, what do these letters mean exactly? Like is D still alright because F is failure or is D just slightly better than F? E is not a thing right?

I am giving this patch a solid 2/5 but at least my templar is fun and the new weapons look cool.

Someone linked this earlier, but I think a joke may have gone whooshing over their head in that post. :P

Still, it should answer your question -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_grading_in_the_United_States

Grollok76

Facefister wrote: »

GoodFella146 wrote: »

There's obviously some confusion here by the development team so perhaps this format will assist future changes. Make sure to be honest now....

Where is "E"? You can't even get the alphabet right...

Who cares about "E"? Where's "Z"?

EDIT:

Rak_am

F

Failure. Bugs/Lag/Nerf, welcome RDR2

ScardyFox

F

Ratzkifal wrote: »

For every non-american, what do these letters mean exactly? Like is D still alright because F is failure or is D just slightly better than F? E is not a thing right?

I am giving this patch a solid 2/5 but at least my templar is fun and the new weapons look cool.

D means its SLIGHTLY above failure. If it was a paper, it would mean you just scored high enough to not completely flunk.

Basically, its the absolute bottom before failing.

Mrs_Malaka

F

F for Failure.

Reasons for grade:

-The amount of bugs, broken quests, and lag is massively unprofessional, especially when many have been brought to their attention by those playing on the PTS pre-launch of this Murkmire patch. Four years into developing this MMO and they still have problems this bad...

-Changes made were too many and also some very unnecessary. I play all classes (I have 11 characters) and they all were affected but not in the way I would hope they'd be. I am still trying to work around the changes, it will take some testing.

-The time of release collided with mid-event, creating many missed days of the event due to maintenance and server downtime. This hasn't been helpful for EU players from what I've read. I know being in NA PC myself the downtime was a pain but not too harsh for me as I have much leisure time.

It's a pity we don't have any influence over ZOS' dingbat decisions of when to take servers down or release content, as well as other things. I am sure the only "influence" they will consider has to do with any ideas or suggestions that will profit them.

Turelus

B

Ratzkifal wrote: »

For every non-american, what do these letters mean exactly? Like is D still alright because F is failure or is D just slightly better than F? E is not a thing right?

I am giving this patch a solid 2/5 but at least my templar is fun and the new weapons look cool.

Well in the UK F is still technically a passing grade, just a terrible one. For us "U" is the failure which is "ungraded".

OrdoHermetica

D

There were a few good changes, but I felt they were more or less fully negated by some frankly awful ones. That would net a C in my books (mediocre passing grade). But it's ALSO been super buggy, so that drops it down to a D.

JumpmanLane

F

Bugs, lag, crashing in PvE, crashing in PvP. Glyphmeta, nerfs ugh. The game has become trash. Barely playable...and I haven’t set FOOT in Mirkmire. Like BEYOND who cares.

ATomiX96

F

complete failure, *** balancing choices, pvp again balanced to cater towards zerglings, broke pvp with dots procing enchants on cooldown, 4 weeks of PTS wasnt enough for finding major bugs?
devs clearly not listening to class reps or class reps have no idea how the game works, choose one (leaning towards first option)

Glurin

A

Because if a nerf causes this much drama it must have been badly needed.

Sylosi

A

My swimming pool was empty, but thankfully I was able to refill it from the tears this patch has caused, quality patch.

LadyNalcarya

D

The content dlc is good. But the balancing part is simply atrocious.
Most importantly, I cannot understand why ZOS combat team is so hellbent on antagonizing their playerbase. What happened to "play as you want" motto? Who decided that it's a good idea to release a big "F YOU" instead of balance patch?

WaltherCarraway

F

dev having some E apparently

rdr2 ftw!!!

Zvorgin

F

I don’t get how core combat systems can be changed on a whim with no thought for over performance or justification going out for the changes. At least acknowledge the issue.

BalticBlues

F

Glurin wrote: »

Because if a nerf causes this much drama it must have been badly needed.

Your questionable theory at least would explain why there is no nerf yet for the most OP skill of the entire game: If Cloak (which is almost god mode) finally would get a well-deserved nerf, the forum "drama" would probably set a new record for men in tears, so ZOS has too much fear to do it.

ScardyFox

F

Zvorgin wrote: »

I don’t get how core combat systems can be changed on a whim with no thought for over performance or justification going out for the changes. At least acknowledge the issue.

You have a better chance of squeezing blood from a stone then that ever being answered.

Welcome to purgatory.

maboleth

D

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

The content dlc is good. But the balancing part is simply atrocious.
Most importantly, I cannot understand why ZOS combat team is so hellbent on antagonizing their playerbase. What happened to "play as you want" motto? Who decided that it's a good idea to release a big "F YOU" instead of balance patch?

Sometimes, for us, players - outsiders, it really looks like they are doing some bad decisions on purpose and out of spite. Like really. Totally disconnected with their fans and hardcore player base. Even with all those Class reps, Streamer squads...

This is universal acknowledgement that these changes were too broad, too untested and many unnecessary. With so many bugs unleashed, I really hope ZOS Combat & QA departments will take lessons or even consequences from director(s). The questing, audio, visual, zone and cyrodiil guys did a hell of a job, only to be downed by those incompetent ones, mentioned above. It's not fair.

Kadoin

A

A, because why not?

If they can address the bugs it will not be too bad of a patch. However, that doesn't mean I agree or am happy about all of what was changed. I can understand the changes though, and I still think its better than the patch where everyone was running like the Flash. But encountering a 60+ people using the enchant bug in a faction stack? It's funny for a while, but it stops being funny when they roll over your faction because of it.

AcadianPaladin

F

Most every significant patch makes my game less fun (solo PvE player here) but I have to fail this one because it is the first patch (two years of play here) that has crippled one character and prompted me to retire another.

LadyNalcarya

D

maboleth wrote: »

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

The content dlc is good. But the balancing part is simply atrocious.
Most importantly, I cannot understand why ZOS combat team is so hellbent on antagonizing their playerbase. What happened to "play as you want" motto? Who decided that it's a good idea to release a big "F YOU" instead of balance patch?

Sometimes, for us, players - outsiders, it really looks like they are doing some bad decisions on purpose and out of spite. Like really. Totally disconnected with their fans and hardcore player base. Even with all those Class reps, Streamer squads...

This is universal acknowledgement that these changes were too broad, too untested and many unnecessary. With so many bugs unleashed, I really hope ZOS Combat & QA departments will take lessons or even consequences from director(s). The questing, audio, visual, zone and cyrodiil guys did a hell of a job, only to be downed by those incompetent ones, mentioned above. It's not fair.

This is true, and I agree that artwork etc are pretty great, but it's kinda hard to fully enjoy it when your character is brokern and your friends are planning to quit.

MaxJrFTW

F

Tried to do one bg yesterday and i kept dying to enchantments within 3 seconds of being touched. Left that game after the 3rd "insta death" and i'm seriously considering quitting.

A lot of good single player games have released over the last year and i haven't played any yet. Maybe Murkmire is a blessing in disguise.

Mannix1958

D

Tandor wrote: »

I haven't seen enough of Murkmire yet to know whether it deserves an "A", but I haven't encountered any performance, bug or balancing issues to justify less than a "B" at this point. Performance is certainly a lot better than when Summerset launched as there were some disconnection issues with that update as I recall until an early incremental patch a week or two later.

Yeah that's why we had all the patches this week...its smooth as silk.

swirve

2.5 stars

MaxJrFTW

F

Ratzkifal wrote: »

For every non-american, what do these letters mean exactly? Like is D still alright because F is failure or is D just slightly better than F? E is not a thing right?

I am giving this patch a solid 2/5 but at least my templar is fun and the new weapons look cool.

A- Appalling, Awful, Abysmal, Atrocious
B- Bad
C- Catastrophic, Calamitous, Cataclysmic
D- Disastrous, Dire, Devastating, Dreadful
F- Failure

Cously

B

Content, great! I thought I'd dread Murkmire since is an ugly area but they did make it look really good. Feels like in the Amazon forest. Combat changes...for me they keep making the same mistake since the first update: way too much radical combat changes at once.

Alchemical

A

Lawrence Schick himself could have come to my home, taken a dump on my sofa, molested my cats, eaten my last slice of pizza, and then burned my house down, so long as he whispered "Argonian Lore" as he left I would be excited for Murkmire.

Yeah I'm like 1% bummed I had to think more about my build than usual. But 99% of the reason I play the game is because I like Elder Scrolls universe. I sure as heck don't dump my money into cosmetics and houses and other vapid roleplay crap because I think it has the most satisfying and revolutionary combat of any MMO on the market, lmao.