Enchants and their current state

TheRealSniker

Is this fine?

Liofa

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NERF IT NOW

One and only option in this poll that makes sense.

biggda76

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NERF IT NOW

L2P noob just purge it lmao

Bosov

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NERF IT NOW

Totally balanced because when you use an enchant you cant use poisons!!!1!!11!!

I think you should be able to proc poisons and enchantments from the same bar because that way i have to press less buttons for more damage and that is fun!!!!

susmitds

Torug's Pact need a nerf. Maybe change it to give 2000 penetration debuff on taunting, which will not affect PvE tanking. Everything else also nerfs PvE.

Checkmath

This is fine

Just trolling
Well Magplar main, so git gud and purge :P

Actually_Goku

This needs a nerf

biggda76 wrote: »

L2P noob just purge it lmao

We shouldn’t have to slot a purge and sandbag our class identities just on the basis of an extra on a weapon - the same goes with bleeds. The game is getting too zerg and cheese friendly.

TheRealSniker

This needs a nerf

Actually_Goku wrote: »

biggda76 wrote: »

L2P noob just purge it lmao

We shouldn’t have to slot a purge and sandbag our class identities just on the basis of an extra on a weapon - the same goes with bleeds. The game is getting too zerg and cheese friendly.

totally agree, solo and smallscale should be rewarded alot more in the game

pdblake

What is actually going on with enchants?

I read that both bars fire now. So, if I have a fire enchant on my back bar and shock on the front, when I hit do they both fire off and give fire AND shock damage at the same time?

Bosov

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NERF IT NOW

TheRealSniker wrote: »

Actually_Goku wrote: »

biggda76 wrote: »

L2P noob just purge it lmao

We shouldn’t have to slot a purge and sandbag our class identities just on the basis of an extra on a weapon - the same goes with bleeds. The game is getting too zerg and cheese friendly.

totally agree, solo and smallscale should be rewarded alot more in the game

That is not what zos wants. Smallscale and solo need to be punished and zerg gameplay needs to be encouraged more every patch!

In the world of a true zerger "CYRODILL IS BIG GROUP. GROUP UP OR GTFO"

lfg - pls invite

iceman784

This is fine

I dont see the problem

Turelus

This needs a nerf

Pretty sure there'll be some kind of balance pass on this in the future.

Until then either find a counter as best you can, or join in on the FOTM.

Bergzorn

No Hints Available - even the game designers don't know how to deal with this.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NERF IT NOW

pdblake wrote: »

What is actually going on with enchants?

I read that both bars fire now. So, if I have a fire enchant on my back bar and shock on the front, when I hit do they both fire off and give fire AND shock damage at the same time?

All weapon dots proc them, off cooldown and since dual wield gets 2, all you need to do is hit someone with blood craze and they will have the skill and both enchantments procing on them, off cooldown.

dtsharples

This needs a nerf

Double Dual Wield bars?

Bosov

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NERF IT NOW

Turelus wrote: »

Pretty sure there'll be some kind of balance pass on this in the future.

Until then either find a counter as best you can, or join in on the FOTM.

The problem is that zos will only balance with every patch while ruining the gameplay during the unbalanced patch.

Mayrael

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NERF IT NOW

Official news. This will be fixed! When new DLC will launch

getemshauna

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NERF IT NOW

Just purge it

Biro123

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NERF IT NOW

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

pdblake wrote: »

What is actually going on with enchants?

I read that both bars fire now. So, if I have a fire enchant on my back bar and shock on the front, when I hit do they both fire off and give fire AND shock damage at the same time?

All weapon dots proc them, off cooldown and since dual wield gets 2, all you need to do is hit someone with blood craze and they will have the skill and both enchantments procing on them, off cooldown.

Three of them if you hit them with a back bar dot first, since even after barswap the dot ticks will keep proccing it.

pdblake

Biro123 wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

pdblake wrote: »

What is actually going on with enchants?

I read that both bars fire now. So, if I have a fire enchant on my back bar and shock on the front, when I hit do they both fire off and give fire AND shock damage at the same time?

All weapon dots proc them, off cooldown and since dual wield gets 2, all you need to do is hit someone with blood craze and they will have the skill and both enchantments procing on them, off cooldown.

Three of them if you hit them with a back bar dot first, since even after barswap the dot ticks will keep proccing it.

So it's not the light and heavy attacks, it's skills?

That all sounds wrong anyway, surely the only time the enchant on a weapon should fire is when you hit someone with that actual weapon.

But then again, if they can do it to you, you can do it to them, so it kind of balances out somewhere along the line.

*off to add some nasty enchants to my weapons

Ramber

This is fine

so spam purge after every time u get hit? is that how purge works? or does it tick to clear over time? cause i've never even slotted it before, i just roll and get away from people that are attacking me..

John_Falstaff

This is fine

@pdblake , it always was intended to work off weapon abilities too. Tooltip was saying that, but it only worked partially until now. They just fixed that bug when enchants weren't working as intended.

So, I see solution in disabling enchants in PvP. And poisons. Actually, weapons too - come on, you don't need weapons to show your prowess, solve it all in good ol' fistfight. And PvE part of the game with sigh with relief.

Checkmath

This is fine

pdblake wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

pdblake wrote: »

What is actually going on with enchants?

I read that both bars fire now. So, if I have a fire enchant on my back bar and shock on the front, when I hit do they both fire off and give fire AND shock damage at the same time?

All weapon dots proc them, off cooldown and since dual wield gets 2, all you need to do is hit someone with blood craze and they will have the skill and both enchantments procing on them, off cooldown.

Three of them if you hit them with a back bar dot first, since even after barswap the dot ticks will keep proccing it.

So it's not the light and heavy attacks, it's skills?

That all sounds wrong anyway, surely the only time the enchant on a weapon should fire is when you hit someone with that actual weapon.

But then again, if they can do it to you, you can do it to them, so it kind of balances out somewhere along the line.

*off to add some nasty enchants to my weapons

Well magicka weapons do not have two enchants and heal staffs do not deal damage through skills. Basically magicka weapons are worse through this change than stamina weapons. Which results in an imbalance between magicka and stamina characters, since magicka characters can not make use of the same benefits stamina has. Or tell a Magsorc to use rending slashes
In general, just because everyone can use it, does not mean it is balanced.

iiYuki

This is fine

"A D A P T" /sarcasm

pdblake

Checkmath wrote: »

pdblake wrote: »

Biro123 wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

pdblake wrote: »

What is actually going on with enchants?

I read that both bars fire now. So, if I have a fire enchant on my back bar and shock on the front, when I hit do they both fire off and give fire AND shock damage at the same time?

All weapon dots proc them, off cooldown and since dual wield gets 2, all you need to do is hit someone with blood craze and they will have the skill and both enchantments procing on them, off cooldown.

Three of them if you hit them with a back bar dot first, since even after barswap the dot ticks will keep proccing it.

So it's not the light and heavy attacks, it's skills?

That all sounds wrong anyway, surely the only time the enchant on a weapon should fire is when you hit someone with that actual weapon.

But then again, if they can do it to you, you can do it to them, so it kind of balances out somewhere along the line.

*off to add some nasty enchants to my weapons

Well magicka weapons do not have two enchants and heal staffs do not deal damage through skills. Basically magicka weapons are worse through this change than stamina weapons. Which results in an imbalance between magicka and stamina characters, since magicka characters can not make use of the same benefits stamina has. Or tell a Magsorc to use rending slashes
In general, just because everyone can use it, does not mean it is balanced.

I didn't realise that they were supposed to fire on skills anyway tbh. Think I need to l2p lol

So, if I slam down wall of storms from the back bar and switch to front bar and heavy attack, the enchant from the back bar is ticking away at the same time as the enchant from the front bar, as well as the damage from the skill?

Does sound a little overpowered put like that. Especially as (I presume) I can use a staff skill on the back bar but have dual wield on the front (which I'm sure someone tried to explain above), so I could have three enchants and two skills all doing damage at the same time. While my clannfear nibbles at them (albeit not as effectively as before, but that is getting fixed, allegedly).

Lieblingsjunge

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NERF IT NOW

Checkmath wrote: »

Just trolling
Well Magplar main, so git gud and purge :P

Then you get sad because you realise that they keep re-applying, so you're stuck spamming purge. :x

Darkenarlol

This is fine

welcome to wrobel's dream - everyone dies in a few seconds regardless of skill or spec or armor options (including yourself)

but hey isn't this bloody 1 button massacre *fun* ?

raising the floor right into the ceiling while turning everything between those two into mashed potato! YUMMY!!!

Eirella

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NERF IT NOW

Well I think I'm done with Cyrodiil for a while...

arkansas_ESO

Look man. L2P.

Just slot Armor Master backbar, then 3 Protective and Impreg on body, then get a magplar friend to pocket heal you with TK and Transmutation while he spams resto ults. Then slot 5 Torug's, install Fallout 76, then go play that game instead.

L2P.

Checkmath

This is fine

Lieblingsjunge wrote: »

Checkmath wrote: »

Just trolling
Well Magplar main, so git gud and purge :P

Then you get sad because you realise that they keep re-applying, so you're stuck spamming purge. :x

As said, I was trolling. Already got slaughtered in no cp yesterday buy a group using this. Neither mistform nor purge helps.

arkansas_ESO

susmitds wrote: »

Torug's Pact need a nerf. Maybe change it to give 2000 penetration debuff on taunting, which will not affect PvE tanking. Everything else also nerfs PvE.

The new enchants on Twin Slashes accounts for 16k DPS on dummy parses by itself, with no light attacks or any other skills. This needs a nerf across the board.