Picking a Healer

Tal_72

Hello. I'm getting back into the game with a friend (he started a stamblade), and I want to level up a healer for end game content.

For some reason, Templar doesn't click with me, so I am looking at alternatives. I see @TaeSah has spent an enormous amount of time testing and writing about Sorc healers. Are these accepted? I also notice one of her more recent posts seems to hint that Sorcs have been nerfed pretty hard. So if that is a no go, I'm thinking perhaps Warden. That said, I am open to any class that is fun and interesting. Bonus points if it has synergy when grouping my nightblade friend. Thanks.

Sparr0w

@Tasear *

Yeah Sorcs are fine healers. The way I see it is: Templar=Warden>Sorc>>DK=NB

Shields did get a bit of a nerf pve wise, however pets are now immortal in group content (dungeons/trials).

Tal_72

Thank you for correcting my reference to @Tasear

rabidmyers

u put nb last because they lack utility/group support right, cuz their heals are insanely strong and even better now with funnel buff and path buff, but dang man we really do need more group utility and synergy lol, we have basically none whatsoever @Sparr0w

Tasear

Taesah sounds like a cool name.

Templar, Warden, Sorc have solid places. There were some issues but you should be able to enjoy either for your goal.

Tal_72

Tasear wrote: »

Taesah sounds like a cool name.

Templar, Warden, Sorc have solid places. There were some issues but you should be able to enjoy either for your goal.

Thanks for your reply.

Edit - Was going to ask for more detail, but I think you hit it in the other thread in the forum that is more read . Bottom line -- sorc is not meta, but viable for dungeons and probably in some trials--but not at top end--which means you may have a harder time being accepted unfortunately. I may try it later and do Warden first. Thank you.

Tasear

Tal_72 wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Taesah sounds like a cool name.

Templar, Warden, Sorc have solid places. There were some issues but you should be able to enjoy either for your goal.

Thanks for your reply.

Edit - Was going to ask for more detail, but I think you hit it in the other thread in the forum that is more read . Bottom line -- sorc is not meta, but viable for dungeons and probably in some trials--but not at top end--which means you may have a harder time being accepted unfortunately. I may try it later and do Warden first. Thank you.

I use it for in veteran trials. Other more competitive players do so too.

Tal_72

Tasear wrote: »

Tal_72 wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Taesah sounds like a cool name.

Templar, Warden, Sorc have solid places. There were some issues but you should be able to enjoy either for your goal.

Thanks for your reply.

Edit - Was going to ask for more detail, but I think you hit it in the other thread in the forum that is more read . Bottom line -- sorc is not meta, but viable for dungeons and probably in some trials--but not at top end--which means you may have a harder time being accepted unfortunately. I may try it later and do Warden first. Thank you.

I use it for in veteran trials. Other more competitive players do so too.

Thanks. Perhaps there is hope then . I think I may give it a shot---at least level a sorc when I'm not duoing with my friend on a warden. I still have a lot to learn, so I appreciate your patience. Will check out your build page.

BTW, I know you go Bosmer--but is that required for it to work? Can I go more magicky?

SydneyGrey

I've played templar, warden, sorceror and dragonknight healers. Dragonknight was the worst by far, although they might be better now (as of today) because they just got a buff to their Ash Cloud skill.
Warden is my current favorite as a healer, because they're tops at area-of-effect healing. They're great in trials.
My favorites, in order:
1. warden
2. templar
3. sorceror
4. anything else

I've never tried a nightblade healer, so not sure where that would fall on my list.

Horowonnoe

Tal_72 wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Taesah sounds like a cool name.

Templar, Warden, Sorc have solid places. There were some issues but you should be able to enjoy either for your goal.

Thanks for your reply.

Edit - Was going to ask for more detail, but I think you hit it in the other thread in the forum that is more read . Bottom line -- sorc is not meta, but viable for dungeons and probably in some trials--but not at top end--which means you may have a harder time being accepted unfortunately. I may try it later and do Warden first. Thank you.

Sorc is going to be pretty meta this patch.

zaria

rabidrufus64 wrote: »

u put nb last because they lack utility/group support right, cuz their heals are insanely strong and even better now with funnel buff and path buff, but dang man we really do need more group utility and synergy lol, we have basically none whatsoever @Sparr0w

Sorcerer do good damage to this is very relevant in dungeons there healing is often an part time job. How much healing is needed depend on content and group. NB is also strong here.

Sparr0w

rabidrufus64 wrote: »

u put nb last because they lack utility/group support right, cuz their heals are insanely strong and even better now with funnel buff and path buff, but dang man we really do need more group utility and synergy lol, we have basically none whatsoever @Sparr0w

@rabidrufus64 Didn't get the notification for some reason... Yeah NB's, although they have insane healing capability lack any form of synergy and a lot of group utility other classes have, unfortunately for end game I'd have to put them last. For dungeons and PvP the order does change up as these things are less important.

Sparr0w

Tal_72 wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Tal_72 wrote: »

Tasear wrote: »

Taesah sounds like a cool name.

Templar, Warden, Sorc have solid places. There were some issues but you should be able to enjoy either for your goal.

Thanks for your reply.

Edit - Was going to ask for more detail, but I think you hit it in the other thread in the forum that is more read . Bottom line -- sorc is not meta, but viable for dungeons and probably in some trials--but not at top end--which means you may have a harder time being accepted unfortunately. I may try it later and do Warden first. Thank you.

I use it for in veteran trials. Other more competitive players do so too.

Thanks. Perhaps there is hope then . I think I may give it a shot---at least level a sorc when I'm not duoing with my friend on a warden. I still have a lot to learn, so I appreciate your patience. Will check out your build page.

BTW, I know you go Bosmer--but is that required for it to work? Can I go more magicky?

@Tal_72 Argonian>Highelf/Breton>Darkelf>Anything else. Though with healing any class is viable as it's more about awareness, buffs & debuffs than pure healing strength.

SydneyGrey

Sparr0w wrote: »

@Tal_72 Argonian>Highelf/Breton>Darkelf>Anything else. Though with healing any class is viable as it's more about awareness, buffs & debuffs than pure healing strength.

I would say Argonian>Dark Elf>High Elf>Breton>Anything else. Dark Elves not only have high magicka, but also have a resistance to fire that's extremely useful in dungeons.

rabidmyers

Sparr0w wrote: »

rabidrufus64 wrote: »

u put nb last because they lack utility/group support right, cuz their heals are insanely strong and even better now with funnel buff and path buff, but dang man we really do need more group utility and synergy lol, we have basically none whatsoever @Sparr0w

@rabidrufus64 Didn't get the notification for some reason... Yeah NB's, although they have insane healing capability lack any form of synergy and a lot of group utility other classes have, unfortunately for end game I'd have to put them last. For dungeons and PvP the order does change up as these things are less important.

yeah i still never discarded my nb healer and never will, i play it because i like it and im good at it but i do have high hopes that they will one day add utility to us but until then ima keep healing on it

Sparr0w

rabidrufus64 wrote: »

Sparr0w wrote: »

rabidrufus64 wrote: »

u put nb last because they lack utility/group support right, cuz their heals are insanely strong and even better now with funnel buff and path buff, but dang man we really do need more group utility and synergy lol, we have basically none whatsoever @Sparr0w

@rabidrufus64 Didn't get the notification for some reason... Yeah NB's, although they have insane healing capability lack any form of synergy and a lot of group utility other classes have, unfortunately for end game I'd have to put them last. For dungeons and PvP the order does change up as these things are less important.

yeah i still never discarded my nb healer and never will, i play it because i like it and im good at it but i do have high hopes that they will one day add utility to us but until then ima keep healing on it

@rabidrufus64 Same here & my NB tank, only thing I've not tanked on him is vAS+2, vCR+2/3 & vHoF

Tal_72

Horowonnoe wrote: »

Sorc is going to be pretty meta this patch.

Why do you say this? What do they offer from their class arsenal that has changed besides pet not dying?

From what people have said, their utility (beyond heals) comes from sets or shared abilities.

WrathOfInnos

Tal_72 wrote: »

Horowonnoe wrote: »

Sorc is going to be pretty meta this patch.

Why do you say this? What do they offer from their class arsenal that has changed besides pet not dying?

From what people have said, their utility (beyond heals) comes from sets or shared abilities.

For competitive end game you want to stack as much DPS as possible. Sorcerer DPS cannot compete with Nightblade, so many groups have started bringing all Nightblade DD’s. However the unique buffs Sorcerer brings (Minor Prophecy, Minor Intellect and Conduit synergy) are important, so a sorcerer healer is necessary. All of the classes have a unique group buff, so the other healer would be a Templar for Minor Sorcery, and the tank’s would be a DK and a Warden for Minor Brutality and Minor Toughness.

None of this really matters for anything other than pushing high scores though. And while Sorcerers bring some great group benefits for a hybrid damage/heal build, Templars and Wardens both have access to more healing abilities.