It is waaayyyyy past time for performance to be restored and changes made to fix the lag

Shadow_Viper_vX

An older video but explains and examples the issue PERFECTLY.

https://youtu.be/IzFS4RKA5uc?t=558

The important part starts around 9-10 minutes.

The automatic anti-bot measures need to be removed so performance can be restored, and it seems as though these automatic anti-bot measures have not been working for quite awhile

ZOS please focus more attention/development and fixing important issues like these that can make the game literally unplayable at certain times.

Koolio

Watch that went it came out.

But what’s strange is I started to watch again from your link. Watch a minute or two of it then Finally logged in. Ps4 issues currently.

Went to watch again and got nothing but errors

Dojohoda

Youtube is down at the moment

Maryal

fixing lag/server performance would cause players to move too fast.

Shadow_Viper_vX

Maryal wrote: »

fixing lag/server performance would cause players to move too fast.

Please refrain from making unhelpful troll posts, thank you

Valrien

I wouldn't bother. When it comes to reverting objectively bad changes, both ZOS and most players will dig their heels in and say no

Bhaal5

If they had the ablity to do it, they would have done it by now.
In saying that, crown store is still racking in the money so why "fix" anything?

Shadow_Viper_vX

Important to continue to shine lights on the problems and raise awareness.

A "why bother" attitude only contributes to the problems and hurts the game.

Bhaal5

Shadow_Viper_vX wrote: »

Important to continue to shine lights on the problems and raise awareness.

A "why bother" attitude only contributes to the problems and hurts the game.

But ignoring it has worked so well for the last 4 years. If people continue to buy crowns and eso+ they wont fix a thing

Morgul667

Worst game performance i have experienced so far (and hopefully ever)

Turelus

Bhaal5 wrote: »

If they had the ablity to do it, they would have done it by now.
In saying that, crown store is still racking in the money so why "fix" anything?

Agree with this (at least the first point), if ZOS could fix the issues and shake the reputation of ESO's bad performance they would have done so by now.
They've tried things over the years to cut it down and some has worked a little other things haven't. They could revert some of the changes made in the infamous "lighting patch" but I believe most of those changes were to make cheating/botting harder for people.

I just wish there was more information on what they were trying and ideas they had for new solutions, it's very quiet for a while then we hear about one change which might help, then it can be quiet again for months before we hear about any more.

Shadow_Viper_vX

Removing the automatic anti-bot measures might just be the first step in restoring performance and helping quite a bit with the lag issues that just seem to keep getting worse and worse

xclassgaming

If the Anti bot things don't work, and they appear they don't, then remove them and have GM's watch over the most prominent site of botting, that would work.

(P.S in all my time playing ESO i have never seen a GM)

Valrien

xclassgaming wrote: »

If the Anti bot things don't work, and they appear they don't, then remove them and have GM's watch over the most prominent site of botting, that would work.

(P.S in all my time playing ESO i have never seen a GM)

They used to be around.

When tamriel unlimited came out ZOS got super cheap

starkerealm

Someone was sniffing around a couple days ago, and tied a lot of the (potential) lag issues to the anti-DDOS service that ZOS uses. Akamai, I think. I didn't bother to sit there and run ping tests myself, but if that's accurate, this isn't anything to do with server side performance, and everything to do with actually getting messages to and from the server.

Which, I mean, it tracks. Last year, some little snot had their account banned, and started DDOSing the game hard. So, the service is needed, but it's also causing performance issues for us.

hesobad

You want to know why we have performance issues... One word.... CROWN STORE!

I would be willing to bet money that 90% human resource hours assigned to crown store with barely any on performance

Jakx

I mean its quite obvious that performance has severely degraded in Cyrodiil and its unreal that it has gotten worse inexplicably. Its clear that the game can perform better so the lack of ability to fix so is mind boggling. We used to play in a much better performing environment so the capability is there to get back to that but the resources arent dedicated to it. If its a choice of... produce new content and make money or invest production time to fix under-the-hood issues... then its a simple business decision since the game's income isnt being effected by the performance problems yet. No reason to invest into fixing it especially when PvP is a minority crowd.

This isnt a.. why does pvp get the shaft rant. I love the Pve in this game too but now that the performance issues are creeping into the Pve realm too. Maybe we can have a more honest assessment that development time needs to get back to release performance capability. Pre-lighting patch.

xclassgaming

What we need is ZOS to make Q1 a good start to the year, FIX EVERYTHING! The lag, the unbalancing issues, hell even fix the inaccurate maps ingame.

Katahdin

I agree it needs to be fixed but I believe that if it could be fixed, it would have happened long before now.

I have a feeling it would require either a complete recoding of the game or the technology doesn't exist yet. I also have to wonder how much of it is the old, outdated internet infrastructure in many parts of the U.S.

ISPS refuse to spend the money on it because they think the Govt should pay for it. The government doesn't want to pay for other either so we end up with lines so patchworked and spliced together so many times, it doesn't work well any more.

starkerealm

hesobad wrote: »

You want to know why we have performance issues... One word.... CROWN STORE!

I would be willing to bet money that 90% human resource hours assigned to crown store with barely any on performance

But, "Crown Store," is two words.

Kanar

starkerealm wrote: »

Someone was sniffing around a couple days ago, and tied a lot of the (potential) lag issues to the anti-DDOS service that ZOS uses. Akamai, I think. I didn't bother to sit there and run ping tests myself, but if that's accurate, this isn't anything to do with server side performance, and everything to do with actually getting messages to and from the server.

Which, I mean, it tracks. Last year, some little snot had their account banned, and started DDOSing the game hard. So, the service is needed, but it's also causing performance issues for us.

Akamai causes higher latency by 10-20ms, but it is only one issue. The worse issue is zos' bad server performance, or the general design of their client-server architecture. They did a patchwork hack to move lots of computation to the server and they lack the comptence to design a better working solution. They probably decided the impact is too large and not worth it.

JumpmanLane

The game is so buggy atm it’s hardly even worth it to log in. When you CAN login...

Zorgon_The_Revenged

AOE caps

coj901

Why does this guy play the game if he is that mad?

ezio45

this is so sad

I want the original game back

ezio45

coj901 wrote: »

Why does this guy play the game if he is that mad?

did you even what the video? He said it. Eso has one of the best communities out there. I can say 100% of the reason im still playing eso is the community.

I can say I have progressively hated this game more and more every single patch. I havent actually played this game in over half a yr, I just sit and talk to players in guild chat, if someone needs help with something, i go help them and the rest of the time I farm to make money for my guilds.

For the last week since murkimire patch notes came out, I have logged on for maybe 15 minutes a day get an even ticket and then log out. Starting to not feel like putting the effort in to even doing that.

When I started playing this game I was on for 16 hrs a day, guild chat was full, most of the time we have 2 full groups running in cyro, on busy nights more. 200+ players online. Now were lucky to have 60.....

none of my other guild are doing better, morrowind was the first giant hit and everything since then has just faded. It sucks

aetherial_heavenn

Re the effects of akamai. With tracert. @ZOS network admin. PLEASE READ

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/439549/oceanic-lag-now-300-400-ms-even-with-a-vpn-was-250-300#latest

OrdoHermetica

xclassgaming wrote: »

(P.S in all my time playing ESO i have never seen a GM)

Likewise. Literally never. That whole "Don't be fooled by impostors!" loading screen tip is perhaps the most useless of them all.

goatlyonesub17_ESO

ZOS did, it seems, find enough time to nerf Cyrodiil's Ward and Dreugh King Slayer sets. The former no longer grants the mounted speed buff, and the latter's post-enemy-kill speed buff was reduced from 20 seconds to 8 seconds. It isn't easy to deduce why these changes were necessary.

bpmachete

We gotta keep trying to get them to change it around to better performance. They should put back where we see the friendly aoe effects and instead make a setting where you can turn it on for reduced graphics, like shadows and other effects, tone them down to basic levels for performance. I am talking about Xbox. This might already exist on PC.

bpmachete

What could they do about it? How do other games not have this problem?