Character gender statistic

Ashilda_Dragonheart

ZeroXFF wrote: »

BretonMage wrote: »

ZeroXFF wrote: »

And if you think that "there are no women on the internet" makes no sense because it's gender specific, you should read my explanation again, because I addressed the exact point you are using as a fail "gotcha". But I guess understanding cultural context is not in the skill set of members of the church of wymminworsting.

Resorting to personal insults now, are we?

Firstly, I wouldn't have said it if you were actually reading what you were commenting on. And secondly, how is it different from what you said?

Ardaghion wrote: »

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

I wish there was a super power that turned all women who said this into men for a week, then they would find out how good they actually have it and would stop complaining. Seriously, except for the odd idiot all of society is catering to women's sensibilities and treating women better than men.

oh yeh, i feel really good beeing reduced to girly clichees, getting flirted and sexualized at work, every day - in 2 of 4 worklplaces i have been - or getting compliments on my bbs, getting asked to wear more girly stuff, getting even told from my family to wear more girly stuff. i find it really nice, that people care, wether i get a baby and tell me that my clock is ticking and that i - for genetical reasons - will be sad not having babies. i love getting reduced as person who isnt able to do some repairings in the house, not beeing able to change hardware in my pc and getting touched unasked onn private parts. i also love having worse chances for job promos. its so good to be a woman and we are treated so much better than men, because men hold me doors open and men want to pay my dinner when going out for a date - even tho i am able to pay myself. yes, sir, yes.

As someone that lived as a woman 4 more years than Norah Vincent lived as a guy, I was going to respond but I’ll defer to your experience.

Well, here is the view of someone who has lived as both a woman and a man longer than you have lived as a woman.

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

I wish there was a super power that turned all women who said this into men for a week, then they would find out how good they actually have it and would stop complaining. Seriously, except for the odd idiot all of society is catering to women's sensibilities and treating women better than men.

oh yeh, i feel really good beeing reduced to girly clichees, getting flirted and sexualized at work, every day - in 2 of 4 worklplaces i have been - or getting compliments on my bbs, getting asked to wear more girly stuff, getting even told from my family to wear more girly stuff. i find it really nice, that people care, wether i get a baby and tell me that my clock is ticking and that i - for genetical reasons - will be sad not having babies. i love getting reduced as person who isnt able to do some repairings in the house, not beeing able to change hardware in my pc and getting touched unasked onn private parts. i also love having worse chances for job promos. its so good to be a woman and we are treated so much better than men, because men hold me doors open and men want to pay my dinner when going out for a date - even tho i am able to pay myself. yes, sir, yes.

Complaining about being "sexualized" to someone who has to work hard to get anything more than condescending or suspicious looks is akin to a fat American complaining to a starving sub-Saharan child that the number of food choices they have are oppressing them and destroying their health.

Your problem is that you get too many compliments, and people remind you that you can't wish biology away? Damn, I wish I was such a celebrity that that's all I had to worry about, people giving me compliments. The part about home and PC repairs is entirely irrelevant, it's equivalent to women saying that men can't clean the house or wash dishes. Getting touched by private parts happens to men too. And that you have a lower chance of being hired is just a blatant lie.

And no, women don't have it better than men for having doors held open, they have it better than men because..
- They get milder prison sentences for the same crimes
- They almost always get to keep custody of their children in case of a divorce
- If they don't get custody of their children, they still aren't forced under threat of imprisonment to pay child support
- There are countless programs to help women in need (domestic violence shelters etc.)
- Duluth model, because screw due process
- 5 years longer life expectancy
- 3x lower suicide rate, because of course it's the "privileged" ones that would kill themselves
- 3x lower homelessness rate
- Much higher spending on gender specific medical research

And many more things that I couldn't think of from the top of my head. Compared to all this, what you listed are literal 1st world problems.

Both genders have their issues, though. Comparing women's and men's issues isn't going to help solve those issues, so why bother arguing about it? Instead, how about thinking about how both and women and men have problems and discuss how to fix those problems?

Ardaghion

ZeroXFF wrote: »

Well, here is the view of someone who has lived as both a woman and a man longer than you have lived as a woman.

I don't want to derail the thread too much but I doubt, at my age, that they have lived as long as a guy as I have. I feel for that person's struggles and there is something to be said about the "man up" attitude that can cause bottled up emotional difficulties for men that end in suicide. My own personal opinion is that living as a man, even if that is primarily an act for me, is easier than living as a woman. I was happy as a woman but I was constantly treated a bit like a child, like I needed assistance or help all the time, and there were plenty of guys that acted that way towards me and other women. I'm not happy living as a guy but, so long as I know and remember the "rules", I'm left alone to live my life.

Minyassa

I am male and all my toons are male. I had a female toon but her face bothered me a lot so I finally deleted her, she was just so harsh looking. Didn't like the way she ran either, she just looked uncomfortable. My best friend is female, has 15 characters, and a little over half her toons are male.

Elsonso

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

ah i also dont think, its gonna happen, that zos will show more statistics. there are a lot of numbers i am curious about. they did in the past - like statistics from events, ava statistics and other stuff, but not when asked. also i think a lot of topics will get down "unread". still the chance is higher than via mail and whoever is curious about suich numbers should emphasize it and search for comm-support - thats how a community works, basically - if people are interested into something, they gonna discuss it, if not, they wont.

off topic - another number which i am curious about is the percentage of ps4, xbox and pc - there have been some statistics, in 2015 - but i really want refreshed ones. as example. numbers and statistics are awesome #no creepy stalker

We have a 5th Anniversary of the game coming up at the end of March. I am holding out for one of those "by the numbers" type things, and maybe they will drop some community requested figures into the mix. Like male-to-female ratio.

I doubt they will ever say anything about the platform numbers other than "about even".

Dont_do_drugs

Ardaghion wrote: »

ZeroXFF wrote: »

Well, here is the view of someone who has lived as both a woman and a man longer than you have lived as a woman.

I don't want to derail the thread too much but I doubt, at my age, that they have lived as long as a guy as I have. I feel for that person's struggles and there is something to be said about the "man up" attitude that can cause bottled up emotional difficulties for men that end in suicide. My own personal opinion is that living as a man, even if that is primarily an act for me, is easier than living as a woman. I was happy as a woman but I was constantly treated a bit like a child, like I needed assistance or help all the time, and there were plenty of guys that acted that way towards me and other women. I'm not happy living as a guy but, so long as I know and remember the "rules", I'm left alone to live my life.

I also agree, that as example the "toughness" pressure on men is way to high. While women are trying to achieve characteristics, which are considered positive, like "strength", "self confidence" and "self-determination" the problem for men not seldom is, accepting characteristics for men, which are considered more negative (even though they arent), like "emotional" or "soft". I also agree its as tough for a man if u do not fit into that stereotypes.

but - beeing jealous of sexualized, not necessary compliments in a situation which absolutely shouldnt have anything to do with sex, feels to me like a woman has to be thankfull for beeing mistreated, because a guy is telling her, she is sexy, even tho it often doesnt say that, it only says, someone is judged by attractiveness, not by knowledge and abilities. it even feels to me a bit like someone should be thankfull in case of getting abused, because its supposed to mean, someone just found u attractive, which is - after all - pretty much nonsense, since a couple of studies already showed, it doesnt have necessarily to do with objective attractiveness, but with power.

ZeroXFF

Dont_do_drugs wrote: »

Your problem is that you get too many compliments, and people remind you that you can't wish biology away?

waow. i dont know what to say. i never read something that ridiculous. beeing jealous of people, which arent taken for serious, because they have breast, which get molested, just because of ur own low self esteem - i am speechless. its even ridiculous, u think it has something to do with "good looks" to get molested or downgraded at work. having breasts has nothing to do with good looks. jealous for 5 years longer life while beeing downgraded most time of the life with a higher chance, comparing suicidal rates while on the other hand WAY MORE women are in psychological treatment for depression, borderline (often after sexual abuse) or panic disorders and even bringing up the divorce question, even tho the problem isnt on the juristical side, but on gender stereotypes which are taken on by the parents themselves (in the western countries).

i never read something that stupid.

Such a pile of bull****. I don't even know where to start. I'm just going to stop here, because you dismissed things that literally affect life and death, and act as if the privilege you get because of "stereotypes" is not privilege if it helps you, but it's privilege if it helps men. Talking to mindless hypocritical ideologues like you is pointless, because no amount of evidence will ever convince you.

Have a nice day.

ZOS_AntonioP

Hello everyone,

As we've all seen, it seems this thread has gone downhill rather quickly. With this in mind we've gone ahead and closed this thread. For further posts on the forums be sure to keep the Forum Rules in mind and to avoid flaming and baiting. Any continuation of this behavior will only lead to action on one's own account.

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