Whats the meta now?

IZZEFlameLash

Stamblade with Master Axe DW bleed and you are g2g.

Biro123

Not a lot of point in looking at the meta now.

Wait till the patch lands, builds settle, are refined, the 'meta' shifts and the meta-counters appear... then it will be a good time to ask. Ofc. not many will give a true answer though!!

There's the common-meta made available by streamers, then there's the 'secret real meta' known only to a few..

PoseidonEvil

Biro123 wrote: »

Not a lot of point in looking at the meta now.

Wait till the patch lands, builds settle, are refined, the 'meta' shifts and the meta-counters appear... then it will be a good time to ask. Ofc. not many will give a true answer though!!

There's the common-meta made available by streamers, then there's the 'secret real meta' known only to a few..

thats the best answer possible lol

Waffennacht

Stamina obviously.

Bleeds obviously

Bow, 2H, and SnB against experienced players

DW against those that haven't adapted

iCaliban

Waffennacht wrote: »

Stamina obviously.

Bleeds obviously

Bow, 2H, and SnB against experienced players

DW against those that haven't adapted

Question, why SnB over DW?

Waffennacht

iCaliban wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Stamina obviously.

Bleeds obviously

Bow, 2H, and SnB against experienced players

DW against those that haven't adapted

Question, why SnB over DW?

Against your standard build DW will still do well, against some of the new builds the damage will be too low. The utility of SnB + the damage will out perform DW. - against the newer builds; the non-adapted will do poorly against DW

Edit: bleeds are still very powerful, but if countered leaves the build without much pressure. Spin2win will be far less effective as well in my opinion

WaltherCarraway

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=93122

just like char name your opponents will have to maintain 4k heal per second in cyro to negate all the bleeds from build, passives and skills. With this setup you have potential to deal 26k damage in pvp (from 4 bleeds, get some luck) during POTL countdown (6secs)

words.

Kadoin

iCaliban wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Stamina obviously.

Bleeds obviously

Bow, 2H, and SnB against experienced players

DW against those that haven't adapted

Question, why SnB over DW?

Absorb magic, shield ult, reduced block cost, maim if you want it, breech & fracture if you want it, extra resists, ability to get 1 more armor trait...

Considering massive defense and/or healing is pretty much mandatory in PvP these days, I'd take it over DW any day. From what I've seen the winner of battles right now (before patch) is not who can do the most damage, but who can take it and deal enough damage at the right time.

Grind_Zilla

meta`s will always be overrated

Aedaryl

Stamina will be meta like usual.

Heavy armor bleedblade > all
Stamplar will be very good
Stamden best noobkiller
Stamdk still very good
Stamsorc is king of mobility with the speed nerf that came.

Aedaryl

Waffennacht wrote: »

iCaliban wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Stamina obviously.

Bleeds obviously

Bow, 2H, and SnB against experienced players

DW against those that haven't adapted

Question, why SnB over DW?

Against your standard build DW will still do well, against some of the new builds the damage will be too low. The utility of SnB + the damage will out perform DW. - against the newer builds; the non-adapted will do poorly against DW

Edit: bleeds are still very powerful, but if countered leaves the build without much pressure. Spin2win will be far less effective as well in my opinion

And how do you counter bleed ?

Waffennacht

Aedaryl wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

iCaliban wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Stamina obviously.

Bleeds obviously

Bow, 2H, and SnB against experienced players

DW against those that haven't adapted

Question, why SnB over DW?

Against your standard build DW will still do well, against some of the new builds the damage will be too low. The utility of SnB + the damage will out perform DW. - against the newer builds; the non-adapted will do poorly against DW

Edit: bleeds are still very powerful, but if countered leaves the build without much pressure. Spin2win will be far less effective as well in my opinion

And how do you counter bleed ?

My secret weapon is extended ritual! But you're right there's not much at all that can

ll_Rev

leepalmer95 wrote: »

katorga wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Stamplar. Axe bleeds, potl, dbos is and has been the meta for quite some time. (Imho, of course)

Stamplar meta...I laughed

If you ever run into one of these "bleedplars" on a sorc, you wouldn't be laughing. These guys output insane pressure. You're only hope is to streak away while you still have the resources to do so.

Well you can kinda do that with any stamina class. Stamblade is best for it, then warden, sorc, templar, dk.

Nah the stamplar has more dps pressure.

no they don't lmao. stamblade incap fear bow does more damage then ANY combo stamplar has.

TheDoomsdayMonster

Anyone who makes a post on the forums asking for the Meta is looking for gear that will carry them...

Plain and simple...

lucky_dutch

Meta: any Stamina class, dealers choice

Not meta: Magicka

raistin87

Ok scratch all that.
DW with infused and torugs

leepalmer95

ll_Rev wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

katorga wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Stamplar. Axe bleeds, potl, dbos is and has been the meta for quite some time. (Imho, of course)

Stamplar meta...I laughed

If you ever run into one of these "bleedplars" on a sorc, you wouldn't be laughing. These guys output insane pressure. You're only hope is to streak away while you still have the resources to do so.

Well you can kinda do that with any stamina class. Stamblade is best for it, then warden, sorc, templar, dk.

Nah the stamplar has more dps pressure.

no they don't lmao. stamblade incap fear bow does more damage then ANY combo stamplar has.

Thats not dps thats burst. Also the bow is now useless too easy to dodge.

ATomiX96

patch is live for 1 DAY and people already declaring new meta setups

tells you how deep the build diversity in this game is

KingLogix

ak_pvp wrote: »

Magsorc

This is great XD

Nemeliom

Everyone is heavy today =S

Xvorg

the meta is simple, pick 4 friends and snipe anyone. Since dodge roll is almost useless now, you can just dodge one arrow eating three in the process

definitely, this is the worst patch

Waffennacht

ATomiX96 wrote: »

patch is live for 1 DAY and people already declaring new meta setups

tells you how deep the build diversity in this game is

Hey, world's first am I right?

Stam enchantment meta def

WaltherCarraway

ATomiX96 wrote: »

patch is live for 1 DAY and people already declaring new meta setups

tells you how deep the build diversity in this game is

stamblade/plar master dw/torug dw enchants or btfo.

kaithuzar

If you’re a scrub, new player(playing pvp for less than a year consistently), or just don’t care/don’t try to build & play as competitively as possible, then any class will kill you.

Blocking always has & likely always will be the most dmg mitigation in game.
Dk running s&b & Frost staff can mitigate more dmg than any other class due to block passive.
Warden shield basically renders magic users as useless.
Nightblades are squishy as hell & the ONLY thing they have going is cloak + speed pots because their entire defense is built around “I can’t kill it, run away!” (Thanks ZOS)!
Everyone complaining a stamblade with a bleed setup is OP, either doesn’t know the difference between classes or hasn’t run into a stam sorc.
Hell, even a stamplar with bleeds will wreck you now.
Stamden is still on top of the food chain but IMO stam sorc, dk (magic or stam), & Templar (magic or stam) are all in close 2nd.

Magplar I don’t mind being up there having their day as they’ve been pideon holed into a healbot for years.

Juhasow

Emma_Overload wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Metemsycosis wrote: »

Stamplar. Axe bleeds, potl, dbos is and has been the meta for quite some time. (Imho, of course)

Stamplar meta...I laughed

If you ever run into one of these "bleedplars" on a sorc, you wouldn't be laughing. These guys output insane pressure. You're only hope is to streak away while you still have the resources to do so.

Being somewhat effective on 1 particular type of setup against other 1 particular type of setup is not what defines meta in my dictionary. Also stamplar with bleeds is more or less similarly effective agaisnt magsorc like other stam builds but in most cases have much weaker defense.

Juhasow

Master dual wield (double infused 1x oblivion dmg 1x poison/disease/prismatic enchant) +torug's pact+troll king+set of choice(most preferably some proc set) , back bar infused 2h with carve ability or bow with posion injection and enchant of choice. Just bleeds+enchantments will apply pressure that is enough to kill not mentioning about other procs and regular abilities.

Ragnarock41

Waffennacht wrote: »

Stamina obviously.

Bleeds obviously

Bow, 2H, and SnB against experienced players

DW against those that haven't adapted

quite the opposite.

Ariades_swe

kaithuzar wrote: »

If you’re a scrub, new player(playing pvp for less than a year consistently), or just don’t care/don’t try to build & play as competitively as possible, then any class will kill you.

Blocking always has & likely always will be the most dmg mitigation in game.
Dk running s&b & Frost staff can mitigate more dmg than any other class due to block passive.
Warden shield basically renders magic users as useless.
Nightblades are squishy as hell & the ONLY thing they have going is cloak + speed pots because their entire defense is built around “I can’t kill it, run away!” (Thanks ZOS)!
Everyone complaining a stamblade with a bleed setup is OP, either doesn’t know the difference between classes or hasn’t run into a stam sorc.
Hell, even a stamplar with bleeds will wreck you now.
Stamden is still on top of the food chain but IMO stam sorc, dk (magic or stam), & Templar (magic or stam) are all in close 2nd.

Magplar I don’t mind being up there having their day as they’ve been pideon holed into a healbot for years.

You suggesting stamblade is somewhat a hard class to be good with?
Lul idiot

kaithuzar

Ariades_swe wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

If you’re a scrub, new player(playing pvp for less than a year consistently), or just don’t care/don’t try to build & play as competitively as possible, then any class will kill you.

Blocking always has & likely always will be the most dmg mitigation in game.
Dk running s&b & Frost staff can mitigate more dmg than any other class due to block passive.
Warden shield basically renders magic users as useless.
Nightblades are squishy as hell & the ONLY thing they have going is cloak + speed pots because their entire defense is built around “I can’t kill it, run away!” (Thanks ZOS)!
Everyone complaining a stamblade with a bleed setup is OP, either doesn’t know the difference between classes or hasn’t run into a stam sorc.
Hell, even a stamplar with bleeds will wreck you now.
Stamden is still on top of the food chain but IMO stam sorc, dk (magic or stam), & Templar (magic or stam) are all in close 2nd.

Magplar I don’t mind being up there having their day as they’ve been pideon holed into a healbot for years.

You suggesting stamblade is somewhat a hard class to be good with?
Lul idiot

That’s not what I’m saying, so check yourself b4 u rek u’reself skid.

What I said was nb in this patch doesn’t have the ability to play defensively & be successful; it’s “run away or die”. Which sucks, & btw they broke shade again in case anyone didn’t know.

Ariades_swe

kaithuzar wrote: »

Ariades_swe wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

If you’re a scrub, new player(playing pvp for less than a year consistently), or just don’t care/don’t try to build & play as competitively as possible, then any class will kill you.

Blocking always has & likely always will be the most dmg mitigation in game.
Dk running s&b & Frost staff can mitigate more dmg than any other class due to block passive.
Warden shield basically renders magic users as useless.
Nightblades are squishy as hell & the ONLY thing they have going is cloak + speed pots because their entire defense is built around “I can’t kill it, run away!” (Thanks ZOS)!
Everyone complaining a stamblade with a bleed setup is OP, either doesn’t know the difference between classes or hasn’t run into a stam sorc.
Hell, even a stamplar with bleeds will wreck you now.
Stamden is still on top of the food chain but IMO stam sorc, dk (magic or stam), & Templar (magic or stam) are all in close 2nd.

Magplar I don’t mind being up there having their day as they’ve been pideon holed into a healbot for years.

You suggesting stamblade is somewhat a hard class to be good with?
Lul idiot

That’s not what I’m saying, so check yourself b4 u rek u’reself skid.

What I said was nb in this patch doesn’t have the ability to play defensively & be successful; it’s “run away or die”. Which sucks, & btw they broke shade again in case anyone didn’t know.

Lol ok