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Nerf Ultimates.
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Ultimates are too powerful. They need a 30% damage decrease across the board.
Also, it’s not realistic that you can target your enemy and successfully damage them.
Especially Meteor and Dawnbreaker and their morphs. If the boss moves the Ultimate cost should be wasted.
I’ll go ahead and add Take Flight, Solar Prison, Consuming Darkness I meant incap Incap and why not throw Storm Atronach, Overload, and Empowering Sweep on the pyre too.
All Ultimates that damage need to have a chance to waste the ultimate cost and a 30% damage reduction.
If we nerfed your class ultimates by 30% it would give you more variety so you don’t feel as though slotting your class ultimate was mandatory.
How about a compromise of a 3% increase in damage passives? You won’t even barely notice your class ultimate has been nerfed.
Edited by max_only on October 10, 2018 12:24PM Also, it’s not realistic that you can target your enemy and successfully damage them.
Especially Meteor and Dawnbreaker and their morphs. If the boss moves the Ultimate cost should be wasted.
I’ll go ahead and add Take Flight, Solar Prison, Consuming Darkness I meant incap Incap and why not throw Storm Atronach, Overload, and Empowering Sweep on the pyre too.
All Ultimates that damage need to have a chance to waste the ultimate cost and a 30% damage reduction.
If we nerfed your class ultimates by 30% it would give you more variety so you don’t feel as though slotting your class ultimate was mandatory.
How about a compromise of a 3% increase in damage passives? You won’t even barely notice your class ultimate has been nerfed.
#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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drkfrontiers✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wat? & why would anyone want to slop an Ultimate then?!
Edited by drkfrontiers on October 10, 2018 8:06AM"One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star."
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✭There is a reason they are called ultimates..Edited by Karmanorway on October 10, 2018 8:06AM10 -
The_Sadist✭✭✭✭✭
.. I don't think that's a great idea.Edited by The_Sadist on October 10, 2018 8:10AM"Each event is preceded by Prophecy. But without the hero, there is no Event." ― Zurin Arctus, the Underking.Tragrim - How do I work this thing?
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Snipress✭✭✭If they nerf it, then what's the point of even calling it an ultimate?Finding beauty in negative spaces.
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✭Ultimates are too powerful. They need a 30% damage decrease across the board.
Also, it’s not realistic that you can target your enemy and successfully damage them.
Especially Meteor and it’s morphs. If the boss moves the Ultimate cost should be wasted.
I’ll go ahead and add Take Flight, Solar Prison, Consuming Darkness and why not throw Storm Atronach on the pyre too.
All Ultimates that damage need to have a chance to waste the ultimate cost and a 30% damage reduction.
*gives a terminator 2 style slow thumbs up from the middle of a thunderous rage ultimate*1 -
max_only✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If we nerfed your class ultimates by 30% it would give you more variety so you don’t feel as though slotting your class ultimate was mandatory.
How about a compromise of a 3% increase in damage passives? You won’t even barely notice your class ultimate has been nerfed.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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AbysmalGhul✭✭✭✭✭
✭If we nerfed your class ultimates by 30% it would give you more variety so you don’t feel as though slotting your class ultimate was mandatory.
How about a compromise of a 3% increase in damage passives? You won’t even barely notice your class ultimate has been nerfed.
False friendo. Nerfing does not equal variety.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The_Sadist wrote: »
.. I don't think that's a great idea.Troll post, nothing to see here people.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/436957/if-shield-nerf-goes-live/p1
I’m as serious as this guy. He got 6 pages for something he was passionate about.
I’m not trolling.AbysmalGhul wrote: »If we nerfed your class ultimates by 30% it would give you more variety so you don’t feel as though slotting your class ultimate was mandatory.
How about a compromise of a 3% increase in damage passives? You won’t even barely notice your class ultimate has been nerfed.
False friendo. Nerfing does not equal variety.
It does. People complain that they HAVE to slot Dawn Breaker or Meteor if they want to be competitive in dps. So Nerfing ultimates makes it less mandatory.Edited by max_only on October 10, 2018 8:25AM#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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AbysmalGhul✭✭✭✭✭
✭The_Sadist wrote: »
.. I don't think that's a great idea.Troll post, nothing to see here people.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/436957/if-shield-nerf-goes-live/p1
I’m as serious as this guy. He got 6 pages for something he was passionate about.
I’m not trolling.AbysmalGhul wrote: »If we nerfed your class ultimates by 30% it would give you more variety so you don’t feel as though slotting your class ultimate was mandatory.
How about a compromise of a 3% increase in damage passives? You won’t even barely notice your class ultimate has been nerfed.
False friendo. Nerfing does not equal variety.
It does. People complain that they HAVE to slot Dawn Breaker or Meteor if they want to be competitive in dps. So Nerfing ultimates makes it less mandatory.
You're speaking on the behalf of PVP? Carry on. I'm a PVE peasant *leaves thread1 -
Gatviper✭✭✭✭It's not nerf to a couple of ultimates which is really needed. As if there's not more than enough nerfs to so many skills already.
It's a very thorough re-thinking of many useless abilities (including ultimates) in the game to actually make them useful everywhere, instead of single situations, or not at all. Then it won't be slotting just 2 ultimates to "be competitive".Edited by Gatviper on October 10, 2018 8:38AMLife is a ride, like days in a train, cities rush by, like ghosts in the night.
The rhythm of wheels, time fades away, stations of a journey, destination unknown.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭AbysmalGhul wrote: »The_Sadist wrote: »
.. I don't think that's a great idea.Troll post, nothing to see here people.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/436957/if-shield-nerf-goes-live/p1
I’m as serious as this guy. He got 6 pages for something he was passionate about.
I’m not trolling.AbysmalGhul wrote: »If we nerfed your class ultimates by 30% it would give you more variety so you don’t feel as though slotting your class ultimate was mandatory.
How about a compromise of a 3% increase in damage passives? You won’t even barely notice your class ultimate has been nerfed.
False friendo. Nerfing does not equal variety.
It does. People complain that they HAVE to slot Dawn Breaker or Meteor if they want to be competitive in dps. So Nerfing ultimates makes it less mandatory.
You're speaking on the behalf of PVP? Carry on. I'm a PVE peasant *leaves thread
No I’m speaking on behalf of the entire game. Not just nerfed with Battle Spirit in Cyrodiil.
Nerfed all over. Especially dungeons and trials. In my first post I specifically mention the ultimates having a chance at missing the boss.
Edited by max_only on October 10, 2018 8:40AM#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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AbysmalGhul✭✭✭✭✭
✭AbysmalGhul wrote: »The_Sadist wrote: »
.. I don't think that's a great idea.Troll post, nothing to see here people.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/436957/if-shield-nerf-goes-live/p1
I’m as serious as this guy. He got 6 pages for something he was passionate about.
I’m not trolling.AbysmalGhul wrote: »If we nerfed your class ultimates by 30% it would give you more variety so you don’t feel as though slotting your class ultimate was mandatory.
How about a compromise of a 3% increase in damage passives? You won’t even barely notice your class ultimate has been nerfed.
False friendo. Nerfing does not equal variety.
It does. People complain that they HAVE to slot Dawn Breaker or Meteor if they want to be competitive in dps. So Nerfing ultimates makes it less mandatory.
You're speaking on the behalf of PVP? Carry on. I'm a PVE peasant *leaves thread
No I’m speaking on behalf of the entire game. Not just nerfed with Battle Spirit in Cyrodiil.
Nerfed all over. Especially dungeons and trials. In my first post I specifically mention the ultimates having a chance at missing the boss.
Well, I've never heard of people complaining about the power of ultimates in PVE. Nobody uses Meteor or is forced to use meteor in vet trials and vet dlc dungeons. There is a variety of game play options for the use of ultimates in PVE. I use a different ones for different situations for my healer, dps and tank. I've never felt trapped into using just one ultimate. I use whatever fits the situation the best.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I'm really disappointed noone understood what is happening here. Come on forums, this is elementary stuff!He even mentioned 3% damage increase1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭If we reduce the damage of your class ultimates we can buff the base damage of your class. The overall DPS would be within 1-2% of what it was. This means that anyone who doesn’t use ultimates will see less of a dps loss as compared to those who do use ultimates.
Also, changing ultimates to have a miss chance and wasted cost makes gameplay more strategic. Not every attack has to be successful.#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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✭✭I don't think anyone got the troll. I'll leave a hint:
Wardens had their Bear nerfed by 30%, but in exchange they got a buff to the passive that gives increased damage done for every Animal Companions ability slotted (3% per ability).@ Izaki #PCEU
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✭✭How about asking for better ults so people don't have to run DBoS? Like a Stam ult for sorc, so stamsorcs have more variety than being forced to use DBoS1 -
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✭✭If they nerf it, then what's the point of even calling it an ultimate?
4.30 Combat Changes
Renamed “Ultimates” to “Ultimehs”. Ultimehs will now be dodged if your target moves or presses any buttons whatsoever.
Developer comment: This is a buff if you’re a clueless zergling who can’t stand out of ‘the red’ or who’s never discovered the block button.
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✭This thread was lowkey approved and brought to you by Matt Firor and Eric Wrobel.
Edited by Jameliel on October 10, 2018 9:23AM1 -
killahsin✭✭✭I think we should nerf classes and make everyone the same with the same 10 skills this way the game can be properlly balanced :eyeroll0
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✭✭I don't think anyone got the troll. I'll leave a hint:
Wardens had their Bear nerfed by 30%, but in exchange they got a buff to the passive that gives increased damage done for every Animal Companions ability slotted (3% per ability).
The bear also lives forever now, which is nice. And you can use your vines on it.0 -
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✭I don't think anyone got the troll. I'll leave a hint:
Wardens had their Bear nerfed by 30%, but in exchange they got a buff to the passive that gives increased damage done for every Animal Companions ability slotted (3% per ability).
SORRY I did. XD
"Wat? & why would anyone want to slop an Ultimate then?!"
Who wants to slot a bear now?Edited by drkfrontiers on October 10, 2018 9:23AM"One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star."
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✭✭✭Time to kill would go way up in pvp you need powerful ults to burst people down and kill. With out that no one would die ever.1 -
Nicko_Lps✭✭✭✭✭Ultimates are too powerful. They need a 30% damage decrease across the board.
Also, it’s not realistic that you can target your enemy and successfully damage them.
Especially Meteor and Dawnbreaker and their morphs. If the boss moves the Ultimate cost should be wasted.
I’ll go ahead and add Take Flight, Solar Prison, Consuming Darkness and why not throw Storm Atronach on the pyre too.
All Ultimates that damage need to have a chance to waste the ultimate cost and a 30% damage reduction.
If we nerfed your class ultimates by 30% it would give you more variety so you don’t feel as though slotting your class ultimate was mandatory.
How about a compromise of a 3% increase in damage passives? You won’t even barely notice your class ultimate has been nerfed.
The only powerful ultimates in this game is dawnbreaker + mighty whineblade 70cost ulti that either increases his damage done on you 20%(magic vers) or defiles besides doing a XXXXload of damage.
Whineblade ulti would be fine with a cost increase to match all the other ultis, since they passively get 20 ulti when they pot(lol)
But the real problem is dawnbreaker, its being severely abused in PvP by tanks combined with retraited fury/7thLegion/Ravager that results unkillable tanklings in a zerg formation healing each other + focusing 5+ AoE ultis on one or more guys.
Templar ultis are still trash healbot ultis.
Sorc ultis are still trash zergling negatebot ulti and nothing else.
DK's ultis are fine, not op not bad.
Warden healbot ulti.. Permafrost...LoL
Nightblade Tether+Incap/harvest OMEGALOL0
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