In Murkmire, magwarden brings nothing to the table in PVP that stamwarden doesn't

_Ahala_

Pts 4.2.3 is up... apparently we are talking to a brick wall... the Magden changes will go live and their is nothing we can do to stop them... we asked for a stun, ice damaging abilities, better buff management, better sustain, and better dps and zos actually managed to do the exact opposite of what we wanted in all five categories... and this was after they recognized that wardens felt neglected... they really just don’t care do they?

Olquorron

I agree with pretty much everything the original poster says. Magicka warden in PvP is still viable *in a group*, but doesn't really do anything better than stamina warden can, sadly, aside from healing smallscale groups. For smallscale PvP, mag warden heals can be truly excellent (I don't really like raid/ball play, but presumably an AoE burst heal like shrooms is pretty good to have there too).

Magden is pretty much the last thing I'd choose for solo PvP, however, whereas stamina warden is extremely good there. The two just aren't even close at the end of the day, but in all fairness I think this is more due to how utterly broken stamina/weapon damage sets like Seventh Legion or Fury are.

Amdar_Godkiller

Joy_Division wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

You know ZOS is going to interpret this to nerf stamdens

What's wrong with that ?

Because nerfing Stamden does not solve Magden issues or make them any more enjoyable to play.

And that's exactly the reason why stam dk was on life support in pvp for so long. when mag or stam is infighting within a class the result is rarely balance, but rather nerfs that hurt both and buffs that don't make up for the nerfs.