No rare Furniture Recipes from Undaunted event?

Recremen

Last year the Undaunted event let us get rare furniture recipes from Morrowind and Clockwork City. Is that not happening again this year? It was a really great incentive to do dungeons on multiple characters and really get into the Undaunted spirit! I'd love to see those return, as well as adding in the ones from Summerset, Dragon Bones, etc. to the drop table!

Carbonised

What we need are the dwarven and ayleid plans. Rarest plans in the game atm.

Recremen

Carbonised wrote: »

What we need are the dwarven and ayleid plans. Rarest plans in the game atm.

Those would be great additions, too!

weedgenius

It says you can possibly earn full houses in the reward boxes... did they have this last year? Maybe that is replacing furnishing plans?

zyk

IMO, the event was too generous last year.

It's well known that ESO is enjoyed at least somewhat competitively at a PVE and PVP combat level, but there is also a somewhat competitive trading scene that players enjoy. Events like these can be extremely disruptive to the trading game in ESO. Rare items give the trading game depth.

This is also true of the collecting game. As someone who has enjoyed that, it's been, at times, frustrating to see rare items I worked hard to obtain over the summer given away so frivolously during events.

I think ZOS can balance this better by giving away fewer dropped items by replacing them with Crown Store exclusive items.

MLGProPlayer

zyk wrote: »

IMO, the event was too generous last year.

It's well known that ESO is enjoyed at least somewhat competitively at a PVE and PVP combat level, but there is also a somewhat competitive trading scene that players enjoy. Events like these can be extremely disruptive to the trading game in ESO. Rare items give the trading game depth.

This is also true of the collecting game. As someone who has enjoyed that, it's been, at times, frustrating to see rare items I worked hard to obtain over the summer given away so frivolously during events.

I think ZOS can balance this better by giving away fewer dropped items by replacing them with Crown Store exclusive items.

This is why I dislike the anniversary event. It completely kills the motif trading scene for months.

Recremen

zyk wrote: »

IMO, the event was too generous last year.

It's well known that ESO is enjoyed at least somewhat competitively at a PVE and PVP combat level, but there is also a somewhat competitive trading scene that players enjoy. Events like these can be extremely disruptive to the trading game in ESO. Rare items give the trading game depth.

This is also true of the collecting game. As someone who has enjoyed that, it's been, at times, frustrating to see rare items I worked hard to obtain over the summer given away so frivolously during events.

I think ZOS can balance this better by giving away fewer dropped items by replacing them with Crown Store exclusive items.

And once a year the PvP and PvE competitors have some of their best stuff treated as a handout. I get that there's competition in trading, but there's plenty of precedent for ZOS giving certain things away more easily for a limited time fun event. I would not myself be mad to know that someone got to Grand Overlord exclusively due to Midyear Mayhem, I'd just be happy that more people get to enjoy that title and that dye, even though they were directly competing with me for shares of AP. Also if I were so motivated, I could take solace in the fact that I enjoyed it before the latest crop, with my early work leading to early access to the Fun Thing.

I've also done my fair share of motif/pattern farming and selling. I'm not mad that people get those things more easily during certain events, I'm delighted that more people get to enjoy them. It's not like it ruins the competitiveness of the market, it's just a slight bump.

weedgenius

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

IMO, the event was too generous last year.

It's well known that ESO is enjoyed at least somewhat competitively at a PVE and PVP combat level, but there is also a somewhat competitive trading scene that players enjoy. Events like these can be extremely disruptive to the trading game in ESO. Rare items give the trading game depth.

This is also true of the collecting game. As someone who has enjoyed that, it's been, at times, frustrating to see rare items I worked hard to obtain over the summer given away so frivolously during events.

I think ZOS can balance this better by giving away fewer dropped items by replacing them with Crown Store exclusive items.

This is why I dislike the anniversary event. It completely kills the motif trading scene for months.

The motif market is still dead right now from the Anniversary event in March I'm not sure if it's because there are more players every year, motifs were more abundant, or what... but the market did not recover this time.

Recremen

weedgenius wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

IMO, the event was too generous last year.

It's well known that ESO is enjoyed at least somewhat competitively at a PVE and PVP combat level, but there is also a somewhat competitive trading scene that players enjoy. Events like these can be extremely disruptive to the trading game in ESO. Rare items give the trading game depth.

This is also true of the collecting game. As someone who has enjoyed that, it's been, at times, frustrating to see rare items I worked hard to obtain over the summer given away so frivolously during events.

I think ZOS can balance this better by giving away fewer dropped items by replacing them with Crown Store exclusive items.

This is why I dislike the anniversary event. It completely kills the motif trading scene for months.

The motif market is still dead right now from the Anniversary event in March I'm not sure if it's because there are more players every year, motifs were more abundant, or what... but the market did not recover this time.

I'm still selling motif pages every week, I'm not sure what you're talking about. If you mean that they don't sell for as much, then that's normal and expected regardless of the event. More people complete the content over time, driving up supply, and more people finish their collection over time, lowering overall demand. If you want to stay competitive on the motif market then you should be farming the new products in a timely manner, not lamenting how the old merchandise is dropping in value.

weedgenius

Recremen wrote: »

weedgenius wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

IMO, the event was too generous last year.

It's well known that ESO is enjoyed at least somewhat competitively at a PVE and PVP combat level, but there is also a somewhat competitive trading scene that players enjoy. Events like these can be extremely disruptive to the trading game in ESO. Rare items give the trading game depth.

This is also true of the collecting game. As someone who has enjoyed that, it's been, at times, frustrating to see rare items I worked hard to obtain over the summer given away so frivolously during events.

I think ZOS can balance this better by giving away fewer dropped items by replacing them with Crown Store exclusive items.

This is why I dislike the anniversary event. It completely kills the motif trading scene for months.

The motif market is still dead right now from the Anniversary event in March I'm not sure if it's because there are more players every year, motifs were more abundant, or what... but the market did not recover this time.

I'm still selling motif pages every week, I'm not sure what you're talking about. If you mean that they don't sell for as much, then that's normal and expected regardless of the event. More people complete the content over time, driving up supply, and more people finish their collection over time, lowering overall demand. If you want to stay competitive on the motif market then you should be farming the new products in a timely manner, not lamenting how the old merchandise is dropping in value.

The same way people are constantly finishing their collections, new players are constantly joining and starting their collections. Sure, more people complete the content over time, but people are also joining the game that don't complete the content AND older players who have previously farmed get bored and move on. Markets have an equilibrium and, yeah, that gradually shifts over time but there's absolutely no way you can say that an event during which thousands of people are farming 30+ motif pages a day from simple dailies doesn't have a disruptive impact. Get off your high horse dude.

Recremen

weedgenius wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

weedgenius wrote: »

MLGProPlayer wrote: »

zyk wrote: »

IMO, the event was too generous last year.

It's well known that ESO is enjoyed at least somewhat competitively at a PVE and PVP combat level, but there is also a somewhat competitive trading scene that players enjoy. Events like these can be extremely disruptive to the trading game in ESO. Rare items give the trading game depth.

This is also true of the collecting game. As someone who has enjoyed that, it's been, at times, frustrating to see rare items I worked hard to obtain over the summer given away so frivolously during events.

I think ZOS can balance this better by giving away fewer dropped items by replacing them with Crown Store exclusive items.

This is why I dislike the anniversary event. It completely kills the motif trading scene for months.

The motif market is still dead right now from the Anniversary event in March I'm not sure if it's because there are more players every year, motifs were more abundant, or what... but the market did not recover this time.

I'm still selling motif pages every week, I'm not sure what you're talking about. If you mean that they don't sell for as much, then that's normal and expected regardless of the event. More people complete the content over time, driving up supply, and more people finish their collection over time, lowering overall demand. If you want to stay competitive on the motif market then you should be farming the new products in a timely manner, not lamenting how the old merchandise is dropping in value.

The same way people are constantly finishing their collections, new players are constantly joining and starting their collections. Sure, more people complete the content over time, but people are also joining the game that don't complete the content AND older players who have previously farmed get bored and move on. Markets have an equilibrium and, yeah, that gradually shifts over time but there's absolutely no way you can say that an event during which thousands of people are farming 30+ motif pages a day from simple dailies doesn't have a disruptive impact. Get off your high horse dude.

I'm not on a high horse, I have a feeling you're just overly emotional about the subject. And "disruptive impact" isn't equivalent with "negative impact". It's good for markets to be disrupted in a game setting, otherwise newer players will get overwhelmed and never feel like they're able to catch up. Just like we have a CP catch-up mechanic, so too is it good to have a catch-up mechanic for collectible things like motifs and recipes. The competitiveness of the game is only as good as its ability to maintain a strong playerbase. Part of that is going to be letting newbs have older stuff easier, and part of that is putting out new content so older players have new things to experience. I don't think it's impolite of me to say that you should adapt to that.

WhiteCoatSyndrome

weedgenius wrote: »

It says you can possibly earn full houses in the reward boxes... did they have this last year? Maybe that is replacing furnishing plans?

IIRC yes houses were a possible reward, just an exceedingly rare one. I wasn't expecting to see this event return; I'm glad they're bring it back.