Imperfect weapons for DSA and MA

saganblackblade

I feel that we really could help the dps floor by implementing this idea. I know a lot of plyers that don’t have the time to learn VMA or VDSA.

Neloth

100% agree.

Will open up much better build diversity in PvP for casual players who don’t have time or PvE grind

Also it seems harder and harder to find vDSA group, since almost everyone already have weapon they need

IAVITNI

saganblackblade wrote: »

I feel that we really could help the dps floor by implementing this idea. I know a lot of plyers that don’t have the time to learn VMA or VDSA.

Issue here is the difference in difficulty between normal and vet content.

Personally, I cleared normal first try in an hour or so. Vet took me multiple attempts over a 3 month period to complete the first time. nDSA can be completed solo.

The variance in difficulty would need to be reflected in the weapon affects, which would almost invalidate the weapon entirely or reduce the value of vet.

Asylum weapons are a different story, as vet is already significantly harder. Locking perfected weapons behind HM is simply too much, especially because those weapons cater more to PvP.

saganblackblade

Not to mention we previously had what would be considered “perfect” versions before the change.

TiZzA93

id love this for the longest time ive wanted to do vdsa never find a group

Onefrkncrzypope

Well, isn't that a double edge sword? You will get the argument that why should they get something for nothing in a game geared towards BiS and time spent in game? I'm just confused about what these players need these weapons for if they don't have the time for just vma. If they have no time for learning vma, would they have time to learn a rotation to exploit the weapon they have? Have time to learn the mechanics of harder trials that is where BiS is even needed? If they are just fine doing a dungeon or two, why do they need vma weaps? you can get into the high 40k parses with out one. So my objective and noncombative answer is why do they need them?

reprosal

I hope they do keep perfected items behind such HM content. Just because it would excel in PvP does not make it broken. Said player was rewarded for their skill to clear it.

Chilly-McFreeze

Onefrkncrzypope wrote: »

Well, isn't that a double edge sword? You will get the argument that why should they get something for nothing in a game geared towards BiS and time spent in game? I'm just confused about what these players need these weapons for if they don't have the time for just vma. If they have no time for learning vma, would they have time to learn a rotation to exploit the weapon they have? Have time to learn the mechanics of harder trials that is where BiS is even needed? If they are just fine doing a dungeon or two, why do they need vma weaps? you can get into the high 40k parses with out one. So my objective and noncombative answer is why do they need them?

One might think the 2h is used more often in pvp than in pve.

Mettaricana

Return the vma weps passive dmg bonus and make those the perfected and use the current ones as the imperfect

Onefrkncrzypope

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

Onefrkncrzypope wrote: »

Well, isn't that a double edge sword? You will get the argument that why should they get something for nothing in a game geared towards BiS and time spent in game? I'm just confused about what these players need these weapons for if they don't have the time for just vma. If they have no time for learning vma, would they have time to learn a rotation to exploit the weapon they have? Have time to learn the mechanics of harder trials that is where BiS is even needed? If they are just fine doing a dungeon or two, why do they need vma weaps? you can get into the high 40k parses with out one. So my objective and noncombative answer is why do they need them?

One might think the 2h is used more often in pvp than in pve.

That was true. I believe the asylum 2H is way more in use though. I think you can actually dodge the 2H's dot currently.

saganblackblade

I seem to be hearing from the con side that its not fair to give good gear to newer, less experienced, and less skilled players? Have yall ever hopped in dungeon queue? Anything that helps the dps floor come up is a boon to the community. And things like stating that you can reach 40k dps without the unique weapons ignores the fact that if a player has developed their skills enough to reach 40k single target they can definitely handle VMA.

Beardimus

No.

Flat no.

First of all the weopons are hardly what they once were and second its good to have things to challenge you, you focus on and beat. And having reasons to beat it is good.

If you can't beat vMA then actually the difference an imperfect weopon is going to make is very little compared to getting your build, DPS etc in a zone to best vMA

idk

saganblackblade wrote: »

I feel that we really could help the dps floor by implementing this idea. I know a lot of plyers that don’t have the time to learn VMA or VDSA.

First, it has been suggested several times recently that Zos can return the old static stat as a 1 piece set bonus and call them perfect then have the imperfect ones drop in normal.

Two, we really do not need help increasing out DPS. It has been on the increase for awhile without anything to counter it. Those players stuck at the floor for DPS will still be at the floor for DPS with a vMA. It does not work magic.

gepe87

Updating old content? Guess not.