(Video)Asylum Sanctorium - Saint Llothis the Pious (Solo)

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Hey everyone <3 ,
Soloed the Trial Boss Saint Llothis the Pious at Asylum Sanctorium.
Enjoy! You're welcome to subscribe to my channel for possible future videos :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC1AdPVBcYA

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Character: Universe
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This video was made on the live PC EU server.
Edited by Universe on September 26, 2018 7:58PM
Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
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Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
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  • nemvar
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    Gratz on dem shield nerfs.
  • DMuehlhausen
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    nemvar wrote: »
    Gratz on dem shield nerfs.

    Exactly why they are doing it for most part. I don't feel bad for PvPers, but sooner or later they have to understand and accept PvP is a tacked on mini game essentially and basically all balance changes are done with PvP in mind.

    No class should be able to solo a vet dungeon I don't think let alone trial bosses.
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    Exactly why they are doing it for most part. I don't feel bad for PvPers, but sooner or later they have to understand and accept PvP is a tacked on mini game essentially and basically all balance changes are done with PvP in mind.

    No class should be able to solo a vet dungeon I don't think let alone trial bosses.

    Not only the sorcerer class can solo a trial boss, other classes are capable of that too :)
    Though only a few players are capable of doing this and it shouldn't be an indicator if there is a need for nerfs.
    Shields are fine xD, if you will watch the entire video you may notice that I dodge roll, block and change positions too, a lot.
    I had to block, dodge roll and change positions in order to survive.
    Edited by Universe on September 26, 2018 6:44PM
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
  • ArchMikem
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    20 min fight, still shouldnt have been possible though for a Trial Boss of all things.
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    Exactly why they are doing it for most part. I don't feel bad for PvPers, but sooner or later they have to understand and accept PvP is a tacked on mini game essentially and basically all balance changes are done with PvP in mind.

    No class should be able to solo a vet dungeon I don't think let alone trial bosses.

    You can absolutely still do this without shields. It would just be even more tedious because your damage would suck. Even after the nerfs I am certain that we will still see videos like these.

    Hell, I can solo most non-DLC vet dungeons on a stamblade. It's just the nature of the game.


    Also, I sometimes feel like PVE is just a tacked on minigame. It just feels so unpolished at times. The real endgame appears to be writs, fashion and fishing. We should balance stuff around that.
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    Exactly why they are doing it for most part. I don't feel bad for PvPers, but sooner or later they have to understand and accept PvP is a tacked on mini game essentially and basically all balance changes are done with PvP in mind.

    No class should be able to solo a vet dungeon I don't think let alone trial bosses.

    So what the heck did this thread have to do with PvP?
    Some of you need help with your PvP hate.
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    20 min fight, still shouldnt have been possible though for a Trial Boss of all things.

    More like 24 minutes fight in the original video before edit.
    I had to speed it up a bit in editing so people won't fall asleep.
    I consider it a challenge xD :)
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
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    Exactly why they are doing it for most part. I don't feel bad for PvPers, but sooner or later they have to understand and accept PvP is a tacked on mini game essentially and basically all balance changes are done with PvP in mind.

    No class should be able to solo a vet dungeon I don't think let alone trial bosses.

    Do ya PvP? I main a Templar tank in both PvP and PvE and I've fought on all classes and i gotta say the shield nerf was over the top. Cutting the size of the shield would have made the skills viable and still achieve the goal that ZOS wanted but now that they have a cast time they are pretty much useless when in a fight. I know players that can pump out 15k+ damage in a second and some even more and most light armor sorc or NB will get destroyed without an instant cast shield.


    To the comment about no class should be able able to solo vet dungeon bosses … if that's the case then ZOS should just add a lock down auto kill to all dungeons like Gamyne Bandu's attack from Fungal Grotto. If they don't then there are always going to be good players who want to learn and grow and over come harder and hard challenges and will find out ways to beat dungeon bosses. Gamers are smarter than most give them credit for and they will find ways to beat mechanics if there is one.
    Edited by imredneckson on September 26, 2018 7:25PM
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    Vivec be praised. I say we bump this every five minutes until the certain members of my class stop spamming forums with nonsense about how weve been "deleted from ESO"
    Edited by Imperial_Voice on September 26, 2018 7:30PM
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    Universe wrote: »
    Hey everyone <3 ,
    Soloed the Trial Boss Saint Llothis the Pious at Asylum Sanctorium.
    Enjoy! You're welcome to subscribe to my channel for possible future videos :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC1AdPVBcYA

    Class: Magicka Sorcerer
    Character: Universe
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince

    Good video and keep it up!
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  • Bashev
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    And then people are shocked that shields are nerfed.
    Because I can!
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    Bashev wrote: »
    And then people are shocked that shields are nerfed.

    Nonsense.
    Edited by Imperial_Voice on September 26, 2018 7:46PM
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    Universe wrote: »

    Not only the sorcerer class can solo a trial boss, other classes are capable of that too :)
    Though only a few players are capable of doing this and it shouldn't be an indicator if there is a need for nerfs.
    Shields are fine xD, if you will watch the entire video you may notice that I dodge roll, block and change positions too, a lot.
    I had to block, dodge roll and change positions in order to survive.

    I understand not only the Sorceror can do this, but expect major nerfs to other classes/builds that can. It shouldn't be doable. This is designed as a trial not a world boss, or a public dungeon boss.

    Yeah you rolled, dodged and blocked...so what that means is even with the new nerf to shields sorcs can still be played.
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    Good video and keep it up!

    Thank you :)

    Note: This video was made on the live PC EU server, not on PTS.
    None of Update 20 Murkmire changes affect the battle since it's still Update 19 Wolfhunter patch on the live PC EU server.
    Edited by Universe on September 26, 2018 7:59PM
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
  • DMuehlhausen
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    So what the heck did this thread have to do with PvP?
    Some of you need help with your PvP hate.

    It has to do with PvP cause it seems like the people crying the loudest and people that do PvP. Almost all changes in a game like this are going to be based around PvE with PvP as an after thought as it should be. You want to do PvP as a main activity there are MMOs and other games out there.
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    I understand not only the Sorceror can do this, but expect major nerfs to other classes/builds that can. It shouldn't be doable. This is designed as a trial not a world boss, or a public dungeon boss.

    Yeah you rolled, dodged and blocked...so what that means is even with the new nerf to shields sorcs can still be played.

    I don't see why any class wouldn't be able to do this...This dungeon is a joke on normal. You can literally 4 man this trial on normal quite easily. Just took a while because the last boss had a lot of health lol.

    Edit: Just want to say props to @Universe though, soloing this boss isn't the easiest thing to do. You should go for normal Blackrose Prison next! soloing that is really fun.
    Edited by codestripper on September 26, 2018 8:01PM
    Since everyone seems to be doing this,
    DPS Builds:
    - Magicka Sorcerer (Pet) [Flawless Conqueror @ 565CP] - 582k
    - Magicka Nightblade [Flawless Conqueror @ 780CP] - 575k
    - Stamina Sorcerer [Flawless Conqueror @ 420CP] - 560k
    - Magicka Classless [Flawless Conqueror @ 810CP] - 540k
    - Magicka Templar [Stormproof] - 550k
    - Magicka Warden [Stormproof] - 510k
    - Stamina Templar [In Development]
    - Stamina DK [In Development]
    - Stamina NB [Under 50]
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    whoops double post, my bad.
    Edited by codestripper on September 26, 2018 7:57PM
    Since everyone seems to be doing this,
    DPS Builds:
    - Magicka Sorcerer (Pet) [Flawless Conqueror @ 565CP] - 582k
    - Magicka Nightblade [Flawless Conqueror @ 780CP] - 575k
    - Stamina Sorcerer [Flawless Conqueror @ 420CP] - 560k
    - Magicka Classless [Flawless Conqueror @ 810CP] - 540k
    - Magicka Templar [Stormproof] - 550k
    - Magicka Warden [Stormproof] - 510k
    - Stamina Templar [In Development]
    - Stamina DK [In Development]
    - Stamina NB [Under 50]
  • DMuehlhausen
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    Do ya PvP? I main a Templar tank in both PvP and PvE and I've fought on all classes and i gotta say the shield nerf was over the top. Cutting the size of the shield would have made the skills viable and still achieve the goal that ZOS wanted but now that they have a cast time they are pretty much useless when in a fight. I know players that can pump out 15k+ damage in a second and some even more and most light armor sorc or NB will get destroyed without an instant cast shield.


    To the comment about no class should be able able to solo vet dungeon bosses … if that's the case then ZOS should just add a lock down auto kill to all dungeons like Gamyne Bandu's attack from Fungal Grotto. If they don't then there are always going to be good players who want to learn and grow and over come harder and hard challenges and will find out ways to beat dungeon bosses. Gamers are smarter than most give them credit for and they will find ways to beat mechanics if there is one.

    No I don't PvP, to me a wasted of time. Mostly because of things like this. I understand changes are made with PvE in mind not PvP.

    It is impossible to balance PvP in a PvE based game. The only you might be able to do it would be to have weapons, armor, skills, etc that are only useable in PvP areas. Then those could be balanced around other places. As it now it's all around mobs with millions of hp.

    I get that people will figure a way to "beat" mechanics and get through stuff. So sure the occasional dungeon is beatable solo. A Trial boss though? Yeah that shouldn't be doable it just shouldn't be. Grats to him for doing it and the others that have, but when people can do this is what starts changes like these.
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    Exactly why they are doing it for most part. I don't feel bad for PvPers, but sooner or later they have to understand and accept PvP is a tacked on mini game essentially and basically all balance changes are done with PvP in mind.

    No class should be able to solo a vet dungeon I don't think let alone trial bosses.

    Yep, screw PvPers! Wait...what???

    Gratz on the solo, never mind, I'm blind and see the pet. Still a great accomplishment.
    Edited by Hurtfan on September 26, 2018 7:59PM
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  • Danksta
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    Bashev wrote: »
    And then people are shocked that shields are nerfed.

    Because someone soloed a boss on normal difficulty? I'm pretty sure that can be done without shields.
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  • DMuehlhausen
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    Danksta wrote: »

    Because someone soloed a boss on normal difficulty? I'm pretty sure that can be done without shields.

    A boss on Normal. It's a Trial boss...it's designed to be fought by how many people? One class should not be able to put out the dps, reduce it's damage, and heal. You might as well just make a classless game and just give all skills to everyone and just make everything soloable, oh wait they do have that and it's the single player Elder Scroll games..

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    Well done - I would fold in 2 min with shields :pensive:
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    Great vid! :)
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    Bashev wrote: »
    And then people are shocked that shields are nerfed.

    99.99999% of players with shields would get demolished in seconds by Llothis. This is a video of one of the absolute best players in the game performing a feat that very, very, very few other players can match. Saying this means shields need to be nerfed into the ground is like saying:

    1). It is too easy for Stephen Curry to make a 3-pointer. Move 3-pointer back to half court! Well, what about every other player in the league?

    2). It is too easy for Aaron Judge to hit a home run. Move fences back to 500 feet! Well, what about every other hitter in the league?

    3). It is too easy for Aaron Rodgers to throw the ball the length of the field. Make football field 150 yards long! Well, what about every other quarterback in the league?

    Balancing any kind of game around the extreme accomplishments of a handful of freakishly good players is bad design.
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    Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

    99.99999% of players with shields would get demolished in seconds by Llothis. This is a video of one of the absolute best players in the game performing a feat that very, very, very few other players can match. Saying this means shields need to be nerfed into the ground is like saying:

    1). It is too easy for Stephen Curry to make a 3-pointer. Move 3-pointer back to half court! Well, what about every other player in the league?

    2). It is too easy for Aaron Judge to hit a home run. Move fences back to 500 feet! Well, what about every other hitter in the league?

    3). It is too easy for Aaron Rodgers to throw the ball the length of the field. Make football field 150 yards long! Well, what about every other quarterback in the league?

    Balancing any kind of game around the extreme accomplishments of a handful of freakishly good players is bad design.

    u bring sport(?) references into a videogame forum to make a point?? o.O
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    No I don't PvP, to me a wasted of time. Mostly because of things like this. I understand changes are made with PvE in mind not PvP.

    It is impossible to balance PvP in a PvE based game. The only you might be able to do it would be to have weapons, armor, skills, etc that are only useable in PvP areas. Then those could be balanced around other places. As it now it's all around mobs with millions of hp.

    I get that people will figure a way to "beat" mechanics and get through stuff. So sure the occasional dungeon is beatable solo. A Trial boss though? Yeah that shouldn't be doable it just shouldn't be. Grats to him for doing it and the others that have, but when people can do this is what starts changes like these.

    Well a lot of players like PvP and they like the PvP here in this game and telling them to leave if they want to play isn't a good contribution to finding a solution to the current problems. I agree that PvP and PvE should be separate and that it is impossible to balance each other out. Until we stop nerfing the classes and skills and just start adding small buffs and tweeks to balance the two out, there are going to be multiple issues that will need fixing each update.
    Edited by imredneckson on September 26, 2018 8:15PM
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    A boss on Normal. It's a Trial boss...it's designed to be fought by how many people? One class should not be able to put out the dps, reduce it's damage, and heal. You might as well just make a classless game and just give all skills to everyone and just make everything soloable, oh wait they do have that and it's the single player Elder Scroll games..

    It's designed to be face rolled by 12 casual players so it doesn't seem that it should be impossible for one good player to solo it.
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    Danksta wrote: »

    It's designed to be face rolled by 12 casual players so it doesn't seem that it should be impossible for one good player to solo it.

    Sure it should be. 1 person should not be able, regardless of experience, to do what 12 do. This is exactly what the issue is and a reason why the shields are being nerfed.
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    It has to do with PvP cause it seems like the people crying the loudest and people that do PvP. Almost all changes in a game like this are going to be based around PvE with PvP as an after thought as it should be. You want to do PvP as a main activity there are MMOs and other games out there.

    Sorry but I paid for this game and am going to do it here.
    My point is a class being able to solo end game PvE content begets nerfs as well as PvP complaints.
    There was no need to even bring PvP up in the context of this thread.
  • Universe
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    Hurtfan wrote: »

    Yep, screw PvPers! Wait...what???

    Gratz on the solo, never mind, I'm blind and see the pet. Still a great accomplishment.
    Well done - I would fold in 2 min with shields :pensive:
    eso_nya wrote: »
    Great vid! :)
    Dagoth_Rac wrote: »

    99.99999% of players with shields would get demolished in seconds by Llothis. This is a video of one of the absolute best players in the game performing a feat that very, very, very few other players can match. Saying this means shields need to be nerfed into the ground is like saying:

    1). It is too easy for Stephen Curry to make a 3-pointer. Move 3-pointer back to half court! Well, what about every other player in the league?

    2). It is too easy for Aaron Judge to hit a home run. Move fences back to 500 feet! Well, what about every other hitter in the league?

    3). It is too easy for Aaron Rodgers to throw the ball the length of the field. Make football field 150 yards long! Well, what about every other quarterback in the league?

    Balancing any kind of game around the extreme accomplishments of a handful of freakishly good players is bad design.

    Thank you mates! :)
    Some videos I recorded for fun: Main character:
    PC EU main: Universe - AD magicka Sorcerer, Former Emperor, Grand Overlord, The Merciless, Trial Bosses Solo Champion
    Top alts: Genius(stamina/sagicka Dragonknight) The Force(stamina Nightblade) and other chars.
    PC NA main: The Magic - AD magicka Sorcerer
    Started playing ESO in beta & early access
    User_ID: Daedric_Prince
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