Should our effort be reward anyway?

pod88kk

So as it stands at the time of this post we are currently at 92% for the Summerfall event.
Should our valiant effort to come together as a community be rewarded even if we don't make it to 100%?

Personally I play on EU but I've seen large amounts of people from both server's creating characters on the opposite servers to help out others. People are setting up groups to travel from site to site & players are offering free taxi rides to Arteum so people don't have to do the quest. I've never seen us come together like this before & I feel like it should be rewarded with the house.

VaranisArano

Effort is meaningless without an actual number to shoot for. Which we dont have. Just an unknown target ZOS set and hasnt shared.

Turelus

Other

As others have speculated before, I can't see ZOS turning around and saying "nope you didn't do it, sucks for you!" They could just lie and change it to 100%

Could you imagine the PR nightmare for the game to have headlines on MMORPG etc. saying "community fails to earn house during event!" and they can't openly just give it away at <100% because then it devalues the efforts we made, why would we bother in future events?

Any way I need to go buy more tinfoil now.

Starlock

Other

It already is... with a pet and horse.

qbit

Other

The numbers aren’t published and the entire thing will hit 100% at last minute. It’s a fun promotion that brought community together. Whatever ZOS employee/team came up with this deserves big kudos. Also the programmer that coded up the fake percentage progression to keep people interested.

All of what I wrote above is speculation on my part and may not be reality. I’m not spreading disinformation. And if I am correct, I applaud ZOS for this fun event.

I also hope it gets numbers up to make the suits happy or maybe some investors happy. Which I believe was the entire point. Again, just speculation on my part.

DMuehlhausen

Turelus wrote: »

As others have speculated before, I can't see ZOS turning around and saying "nope you didn't do it, sucks for you!" They could just lie and change it to 100%

Could you imagine the PR nightmare for the game to have headlines on MMORPG etc. saying "community fails to earn house during event!" and they can't openly just give it away at <100% because then it devalues the efforts we made, why would we bother in future events?

Any way I need to go buy more tinfoil now.

No need for tinfoil. You are right on. As somebody states later too there has been a reward and it came in the pet and mount. If you guys hit it (I could care less about it and haven't bothered) then they will do another event like this again and maybe make it harder to hit or easier who knows. they shouldn't just be like oh well you guys tried here you go.

idk

There was at least one thread on this yesterday, with a poll. And we have had several similar threads posted during the past week, many with polls.

Edit: some of those threads with polls are still active.

Jhalin

Other

We’re getting a mount and pet no matter what. I’m dearly hoping for the house, because tbh if I have to pick between Hunter’s Glad and the Psijic Villa, I’m probably choosing the Glade. It’s hard enough decorating one of those at a time, nevermind adding two more to my list.

(And yes I am incapable of leaving those homes empty, except Matthisen, I just can’t make that space in there work out in any kind of pleasing aesthetic)

Kiralyn2000

Turelus wrote: »

As others have speculated before, I can't see ZOS turning around and saying "nope you didn't do it, sucks for you!" They could just lie and change it to 100%

Yeah, there's a reason that it was a vaguely-defined goal, that's just represented by a "% completion" meter. They can fudge the result (and likely have been) however their marketing people think is best. (I'm sure there's some psych studies on how to motivate people and build enthusiasm for something via success meters and their behavior)


(another thought I had... gee, people were freaking out at the start of the month about how that 100k free gold daily reward would destabilize the economy. I wonder how much of that gold will be spent on furniture for a new big house. And I'm sure they knew about the house giveaway event back when they also were picking the daily rewards..... /ponder)

Thrain

Yes, valiant effort. Good job

Not for us but for zos^^
Cuz afaik this is the first community event wich is not plattformbased and all ppl helping together like this
I believe that even if we "only" hit like 98% zos would notice our effort and would manipulate the meter to look like 100%

BigBragg

Still have plenty of time for 8%. Event ends Friday, September 28 at 10:00AM EDT.

Kanar

No, you nearly had it

Failure shouldn't be rewarded.

waitwhat

Thrain wrote: »

Not for us but for zos^^
Cuz afaik this is the first community event wich is not plattformbased and all ppl helping together like this
I believe that even if we "only" hit like 98% zos would notice our effort and would manipulate the meter to look like 100%

I would echo this.

Of all these events we've had since the first witche's festival and all that Hollowjack clogged our inventories, this is the first one where the entire focus of the event has been on helping each other. Across platforms, across servers, all of it.

Imperial_Voice

Other

I picked other because at this point its all but done.

eso_nya

No, you nearly had it

It would be to hilarious to read the forum when it fails. Imagine all the tears, the flaming, the snipstorm, it would be glorious!
make #Summerfail happen

Before u go after me: i did not participate, i didnt have a choice as i had done the achiev in june.

Kingslayer513

Other

We are guaranteed to get the house. It was decided before the event even started. This is all just a great marketing and community involvement strategy. I mean c'mon, the whole point is to get the community together to unlock rewards, and then use the rewards as a promotion for the 1 week Summerset sale after the event ends it's still fun though.

srfrogg23

Yes, valiant effort. Good job

Sure, it's all in good fun and mutually beneficial.

Seems like it would be silly to punish the people who participated because of the lack of participation from random faceless strangers we have zero control over on the internet.

Drdeath20

No, you nearly had it

I refuse to complete mine, but i will for a bribe

Krayl

There's no way it won't be 100% by the end of the event.

No company would ever set up a community event like this with any risk of not being completed, and intentionally creating a totally needless unnecessary divisive rift between the community by having people who bothered with the achievement point the finger at those who didn't.

If there were any intent by ZoS to have this be an event where failure was remotely possible the numbers would be transparent and the challenge would be more difficult.

I hate even bringing this up because it sort of takes the 'fun' out of the event to realize, logically, there was never any way to fail it. . . but if you look at it objectively you should already know this.

Sygil05

No, you nearly had it

We're getting free stuff regardless. What's the point of setting a goal if we're going to get the rewards anyways.

Strider__Roshin

No, you nearly had it

Participation trophies make people try less. If they reward you at 92% people will be asking ZOS to reward them at 84% next time.

You either earned it or you didn't.

Ackwalan

It's just marketing. Tomorrow it will be 97% and will hit 100% the last day.

TheCyberDruid

Other

I was very sceptical after the first three days of the event, but I see so many people doing the achievement now and other people helping those people port that I'm quite confident that we'll make it to 100%.

Imryll

Other

I think we'll get the house. A promotion that has the community come so close, but lose out because they didn't quite make it, isn't going to generate the hoped-for enthusiasm. If they were open to such a result, I think we'd know the exact target.

Also, how many furniture packs would you guess they'll sell if folks suddenly have a huge house to furnish? Not to mention that giving a large home to folks who've not yet participated in player housing can only increase interest in it. Not everyone will use it as anything more than a free teleport, but some are bound to become infected with the housing bug, and it's certainly in ZOS's interest to increase player engagement with this aspect of the game.

Another benefit to ZOS is the potential for crown store purchases by folks who may want access to hairstyles, etc., on both the EU and NA servers now that they've created a character on the other server.

Turelus

Other

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Yeah, there's a reason that it was a vaguely-defined goal, that's just represented by a "% completion" meter. They can fudge the result (and likely have been) however their marketing people think is best. (I'm sure there's some psych studies on how to motivate people and build enthusiasm for something via success meters and their behavior)

This is has pretty much been my thought process since the beginning. I feel kind of bad that I've become so jaded and cynical towards ESO's marketing that I can't trust an event at face value.
I'm not going to go screaming my conspiracy theories everywhere, but I am sceptical of if those images updated each day are actually made daily from event data.

Ackwalan wrote: »

It's just marketing. Tomorrow it will be 97% and will hit 100% the last day.

I was betting with friends that today's would be 97% but yeah, will be interesting to see if we slump to <8% increase on the last days. The lowest increase previously was 5% from Friday to Saturday.

Danikat

Where's the option for "We've still got plenty of time to get to 100% before the event ends?" This poll reads like it's all over and we didn't get there but there's another 2 days to go and only 8% left.

qbit wrote: »

The numbers aren’t published and the entire thing will hit 100% at last minute. It’s a fun promotion that brought community together. Whatever ZOS employee/team came up with this deserves big kudos. Also the programmer that coded up the fake percentage progression to keep people interested.

All of what I wrote above is speculation on my part and may not be reality. I’m not spreading disinformation. And if I am correct, I applaud ZOS for this fun event.

I also hope it gets numbers up to make the suits happy or maybe some investors happy. Which I believe was the entire point. Again, just speculation on my part.

Considering it's a static image it wouldn't need any programming at all. Just an artists to make updated versions with different percentages.

If they're sensible they did it using separate layers - one for the stuff which doesn't change, one for each prize, one for the bar and one for the percentage sign. That way they just need to draw a line across the bar and fill the space behind it, type out a new percentage sign and change the contrast on the prize layer when we unlock one.

randomkeyhits

No, you nearly had it

I'm taking it at face value.

If we achieve it, we earned it and vice versa.

Having seen the community pull together I really hope we manage it but it will be what it will be.

MooseKnuckles88

Are we not already getting a pet and a mount at 92% effort?

Luigi_Vampa

All that us failing this event would show is that ZOS' doesn't have enough people to play their game. I don't see how that helps them.

ATomiX96

No, you nearly had it

im not a mathematician but ... 92% != 100%

Imperial_Voice

Other

Luigi_Vampa wrote: »

All that us failing this event would show is that ZOS' doesn't have enough people to play their game. I don't see how that helps them.

Im not sure how you got this idea but hey, logic isnt divied out in equal measure.