agility,willpower,endurance.

ll_Rev

can we get a buff for these sets? They are no longer viable anymore after not receiving the max resource buff that many other sets did.

Drdeath20

1 piece trait on them bcz were giving up a ton using them.

Dr.NRG

yeah with new 1 piece weapons coming up it would be great if we could buff these sets. I loved my asylum 2h with agility but since 2h counts as 2 set pieces now you lose if you equip it with as you are always way better of running 2 5 piece and 2 moster or 1,1 monster

ll_Rev

Drdeath20 wrote: »

1 piece trait on them bcz were giving up a ton using them.

a one piece could work

Arthalion1

Very relevant thread. These three piece sets have been deleted by the 2x set piece weapon additions. It would be great to see a buff, which would allow 2 undaunted 5 gear set 3 jewellery set and [insert named weapon here] to be viable.

Erraln

Those sets were designed to lure gear hounds into purchasing the IC DLC in 2015, the same way as Cloudrest gear and Sloads was for Summerset. They were BIS at the time and for several patches thereafter. Gear creep has replaced them, yes, but that's okay. It's been ages.

I'm not sure I'd even want to try to work out how buffed they'd have to be to keep up with or surpass the modern 5/5/2 /1_offbar options. It'd have to grant so much stat total that any player lacking geargrind sets would be made or broken by whether they could afford their IC 3 piece.

Is that what you want?

ll_Rev

Erraln wrote: »

Those sets were designed to lure gear hounds into purchasing the IC DLC in 2015, the same way as Cloudrest gear and Sloads was for Summerset. They were BIS at the time and for several patches thereafter. Gear creep has replaced them, yes, but that's okay. It's been ages.

I'm not sure I'd even want to try to work out how buffed they'd have to be to keep up with or surpass the modern 5/5/2 /1_offbar options. It'd have to grant so much stat total that any player lacking geargrind sets would be made or broken by whether they could afford their IC 3 piece.

Is that what you want?

just because it's an old gear set doesn't change the fact it needs a buff.

Arkangeloski

Will power and agility are still viable but not as a 3 piece, more like 2h weapons for extra mag or Stam there is some builds out there that slot them, me included.

Skullstachio

In a technical sense, it is possible to have 5 piece set on the body (excluding the helm and shoulders.) a full Monster set, 3 piece agility, endurance or willpower on the jewellery and an arena type weapon on the weapon slots(I.e. asylum, masters, maelstrom, etc.)

In short: one can have up to 4 different sets equipped at once in the form of one 3 piece, one 5-piece, one arena weapon and one Monster set.

Note: the 2nd and 3rd pieces on agility, endurance and willpower have stronger effects than most pieces.

Arkangeloski

Ancient Grace jewelz , necropotence , will power destro resto , one piece domi one piece grothdarr (any max Magicka 1 piece) add mage mundus. That is one example... Coustesy of Kristofer

PickleRick

They’re absolutely viable. I’ll give 2 examples.

Mageblade: VMA resto Master Destro 5pc set of choice undaunted of choice 3x Willpower

Stam DK: Asylum 2h Masters DW 5pc of choice undaunted of choice 2x Agility

WrathOfInnos

These sets will make a comeback if all the ability altering weapons get their 1 pc set bonuses back. A 2pc monster helm set and a good 5 pc set are unbeatable for most builds. If a 2 pc weapon set is buffed to be a competitive option, then that leaves 3 pc open, and Willpower and Agility are still the best 3pc sets.

ll_Rev

PickleRick wrote: »

They’re absolutely viable. I’ll give 2 examples.

Mageblade: VMA resto Master Destro 5pc set of choice undaunted of choice 3x Willpower

Stam DK: Asylum 2h Masters DW 5pc of choice undaunted of choice 2x Agility

"viable" yet you only gave an example of 2 classes with set ups that aren't even close to bis.

PickleRick

ll_Rev wrote: »

PickleRick wrote: »

They’re absolutely viable. I’ll give 2 examples.

Mageblade: VMA resto Master Destro 5pc set of choice undaunted of choice 3x Willpower

Stam DK: Asylum 2h Masters DW 5pc of choice undaunted of choice 2x Agility

lol "viable" yet you only gave an example of 2 classes with set ups that aren't even close to bis.

Whatever you say buddy. Both of those builds are absolutely vicious in PVP. Perhaps plug some builds into build editor and see how they size up.

leepalmer95

PickleRick wrote: »

ll_Rev wrote: »

PickleRick wrote: »

They’re absolutely viable. I’ll give 2 examples.

Mageblade: VMA resto Master Destro 5pc set of choice undaunted of choice 3x Willpower

Stam DK: Asylum 2h Masters DW 5pc of choice undaunted of choice 2x Agility

lol "viable" yet you only gave an example of 2 classes with set ups that aren't even close to bis.

Whatever you say buddy. Both of those builds are absolutely vicious in PVP. Perhaps plug some builds into build editor and see how they size up.

By vicious you mean 'passable'

There are way better setups.
2/5/5 is pretty standard but if i was going to use either asylum 2h or master dw i'd 100% use a 5 piece setup on the other bar, truth/ alch etc..

Minno

leepalmer95 wrote: »

PickleRick wrote: »

ll_Rev wrote: »

PickleRick wrote: »

They’re absolutely viable. I’ll give 2 examples.

Mageblade: VMA resto Master Destro 5pc set of choice undaunted of choice 3x Willpower

Stam DK: Asylum 2h Masters DW 5pc of choice undaunted of choice 2x Agility

lol "viable" yet you only gave an example of 2 classes with set ups that aren't even close to bis.

Whatever you say buddy. Both of those builds are absolutely vicious in PVP. Perhaps plug some builds into build editor and see how they size up.

By vicious you mean 'passable'

There are way better setups.
2/5/5 is pretty standard but if i was going to use either asylum 2h or master dw i'd 100% use a 5 piece setup on the other bar, truth/ alch etc..

They only fail because we have things like truth/ravaging that gives 400-600 WD for no downside.

Willpower gives around 1300-1400 max stat, which is about a 133 SD/WD boost. It should swap the 2pc bonus for the 3pc bonus or but the 2pc a little higher.

Strider__Roshin

Because of the fact that perfected Blackrose weapons now give a bonus I would disagree with the notion that these jewelry sets need a buff. Honestly you could currently run 3 Agility, and any 2-piece that gives weapon damage, and it'll give you more raw damage than Hundings

ll_Rev

Daus wrote: »

Because of the fact that perfected Blackrose weapons now give a bonus I would disagree with the notion that these jewelry sets need a buff. Honestly you could currently run 3 Agility, and any 2-piece that gives weapon damage, and it'll give you more raw damage than Hundings

you can still run 5/5/2 with the perfected black rose weapons.

Skullstachio

ll_Rev wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

Because of the fact that perfected Blackrose weapons now give a bonus I would disagree with the notion that these jewelry sets need a buff. Honestly you could currently run 3 Agility, and any 2-piece that gives weapon damage, and it'll give you more raw damage than Hundings

you can still run 5/5/2 with the perfected black rose weapons.

In that sense, one would essentially sacrifice the Monster slots for a setup consisting of Black rose weapons and 2 five piece sets.

ll_Rev

Alpha-Lupi wrote: »

ll_Rev wrote: »

Daus wrote: »

Because of the fact that perfected Blackrose weapons now give a bonus I would disagree with the notion that these jewelry sets need a buff. Honestly you could currently run 3 Agility, and any 2-piece that gives weapon damage, and it'll give you more raw damage than Hundings

you can still run 5/5/2 with the perfected black rose weapons.

In that sense, one would essentially sacrifice the Monster slots for a setup consisting of Black rose weapons and 2 five piece sets.

no you don't have to sacrifice monster sets you can run 5 backbar or frontbar depending if on the weapons you use.