[SORCS] Overload, which is better?

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Beardimus

The 3rd bar Overload

3rd bar all the way. We have bar space issues in particular pet sorc healers. This creates a big issue for them.

Also, it was something different about the class, something unique and nope they crapped on it. Same with yolo not running Impen etc.

Now we all the same, dull, blame sameness.

I wanted a spammable 2 years ago when they took webs (MagDW niche build) but honnestly who needs this change for PvE, 99% of it is way too easy anyway but nope, sorcs rekted for PvP so they can spam in a rotation.just weird.

If the wanted to help OL have use in PvE they should have upped ultimate level again

Donnasnowheart_ESO

The 3rd bar Overload

3rd bar all the way for all the obvious reasons. What really makes this sad for me is that the pts version is pretty darn weak with the damage nerfs and how strong light attacks are already on staffs. Its literally only useful imo for heavy attacking aoe spread

Luckylancer

The 3rd bar Overload

A unique mechanic is removed. It cant be good.

Tasear

The 3rd bar Overload

As a player, for me the third bar adding more management to the game. I liked the added complexity that added to timing something right. The overlord on pts is interesting implementation, but would like to personally see Sorc with a third bar option or some touch up with the other skills. Adding dressing room to the base game might help to see you can have bar setups for individual fights or something. I just want personally to feel engaged and rewarded for good timing.

Ozazz

The 3rd bar Overload

once again look at all the sorcs that dont play the class voting pts is better Hahahahaha good one posers, yeah lets have less of a diverse class with removing one of the only things that makes us unique!!!

Somewhere

Upcoming PTS overload

For my own personal use I think the new one is better. But that comes from the viewpoint of PvE DD. The amount of damage and sustain the new OL when used well is very good. That said, even though I prefer the new one, and put that down in the poll I realize more than just people in my camp exist and that the 3rd bar provided healers, pvpers, and other playstyles a unique mechanic and relief from lack of bar space.

Honestly, increased range isn't that great of a morph on Power Overload and that one should either be a physical morph, or one that gives the 3rd bar back.

DoobZ69

This is giant *** vs a turd sandwich debate all over again. A sparkly light/heavy attack or an entire class design. Hmmmmmmmmm which one would I prefer. Doesn't even need a vote. If you can't see the obvious choice you are brainDEAD.

Emma_Overload

Upcoming PTS overload

3rd bar was always a clunky gimmick. Old Overload was only good for ganking. I want an Overload that I can use in combat to kill people!

I like the new Overload.

Casul

I’m honestly surprised more people aren’t mad about the 50% damage nerf to LA, but then again a 60% buff to heavy is something to consider.

Overload:
This ability and its morphs no longer grant a third ability bar when toggled on.
Weapon abilities can now be used while in Overload mode, and are no longer hidden.
You can no longer generate any Ultimate while this ability is toggled on.
You can now toggle this on when you have 25 Ultimate or more, previously 75 Ultimate.
Light and Heavy Attacks are now off the global cooldown and can be woven with other abilities.
Decreased the damage of the Light Attack by approximately 50%.
Increased the damage of the Heavy Attack by approximately 60%.
Power Overload (morph): This morph now specifies the bonus range and radius for the Light and Heavy Attacks.

Somewhere

Upcoming PTS overload

BuildMan wrote: »

I’m honestly surprised more people aren’t mad about the 50% damage nerf to LA, but then again a 60% buff to heavy is something to consider.

Well you can weave it properly. I don't think any of us expected it to do the same damage it did before and still use weapon skills. It did that much damage because it was supposed to replace your other skills. If you go into a fight and start your rotation with about 200-300 ulti (not unreasonable), this new overload is still a net dps gain.

Thraben

The 3rd bar Overload

Instead of trying to put OL on the Weapons bar, they should allow Weapon Skills on the OL bar. A simple Bound Weapon animation from skyrim combined with the Weapon Skill´s animation would already suffice to balance things out, as no one would spam a skill with an animation equal to a 3 second cast time.

However it would open fun playstyles and strengthen the class identity, particularly of the StamSorcs.

What would I give to use a conjured Critcharge as a Dual Wield StamSorc! Even it it means that I have to wait for 3 seconds before it even starts (and a half second to switch to physical weapons). What would I give to pull mobs with a conjured Bow and some OL light attacks before using my real weapon bars!

Again, no real DPS char would be harmed, as the animation would prevent any real DPS... but it would simply "feel" right, as this is a very classical Elder Scrolls Sorcerer playstyle since at least TES: Morrowind which is totally not represented in ESO.

katorga

Upcoming PTS overload

You can toggle it on before you have enough ult to use it, and block further ult gain? That will be a hassle. I hope it is not as clunky to get in and out of as the old OL.

Artim_X

The 3rd bar Overload

This will be a buff for those who never fully utilized the current overload, but this will also be a slap in the face nerf for those who did. This is the inherent problem with the change, since it does not compensate players who made builds that used the third bar. Overload's heavy attack definitely needed a buff, but that should not have required the loss of the third bar.

Savos_Saren

Upcoming PTS overload

Definitely the upcoming change. You can now use weapon abilities/shields while using Overload. Also- it definitely makes the Overload transition much, much easier.

DoobZ69

Artim_X wrote: »

This will be a buff for those who never fully utilized the current overload, but this will also be a slap in the face nerf for those who did. This is the inherent problem with the change, since it does not compensate players who made builds that used the third bar. Overload's heavy attack definitely needed a buff, but that should not have required the loss of the third bar.

This I have been trying to say for days now. Thank you

rafaelcsmaia

The 3rd bar Overload

Overload now has no flavor at all, looks like a LA buff if anything.

Also dps wise its not "WOW" as it is now, most people will stick to destro and meteor.

3rd bar was sweet as hell for utility, I could slot mines and rapids in pvp, healers and tanks could put extra helping habilities.

ZOS keeps thinking pets are awesome, but with 4 bar slots to have them, guess theyre still a piece of garbage

Donnasnowheart_ESO

The 3rd bar Overload

I have a feeling that ppl saying its weaving is nice haven't been on the pts it's literally the same slow animation to activate it and attack with it and it's damage is pretty weak while still having the same counters of live. For pve I would honestly only see it being used for heavy aoe fights and even then Destro ult would win out imo while lighting heavy attacking. The new overload hits like a wet noodle for LAs so it's pointless to use as an ult when u have way better options

Minute_Waltz

Upcoming PTS overload

Just imagine the combo’s you can do now in pvp..

Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO

I'm not a sorc, idc

Does the change to overload in PTS mean that OL light attacks will be affected by infused trait weapons? Or have they always been affected by weapon traits?

Donnasnowheart_ESO

The 3rd bar Overload

Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO wrote: »

Does the change to overload in PTS mean that OL light attacks will be affected by infused trait weapons? Or have they always been affected by weapon traits?

already does that on live

DocFrost72

Other (state what & why other)

Minute_Waltz wrote: »

Just imagine the combo’s you can do now in pvp..

^

Starlock

Other (state what & why other)

I don’t care about the third bar, I am simply not a fam of removing the heavy hitting nature of the ability.

Cronopoly

Other (state what & why other)

It really doesn't matter. We are the slowly boiled FROG sitting in the pot, with many unaware that over the last 2 years we have been gutted of class defining skills. There were tons of ways to keep Sorc abilities in check and tweaked to keep the class competitive and not OP.

WE the players did not design the class OP abilities and stacking of shields!!! ZOS YOU DID!! It should have been fairly trivial to adjust Crittable shields loooong ago, or prevent stacking, looong ago. Instead of this ALL at once BS, and some have the nerve to act surprised at the angst you receive. BULL IN A CHINA SHOP so called Balancing.