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Class Change Token
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✭✭✭✭✭No, there should be no Class ChangesIn actuality, I suppose, if ZOS added class change tokens, it would be fine since I wouldn't use them any more than I'd use the other change tokens. I have a girl for every class option anyway pretty much, no way I'd buy a token for class change. I'd just level a different girl.1 -
Priyasekarssk✭✭✭✭✭Yes, we want Class Changes
Good point. ESO is pay to win. I agree with you. Zos already have lost trust and integrity.No, zos should actually attempt to balance the classes... this system would actually reward them for breaking the game for 1/2 their community as they would likely monetize the token afterEdited by Priyasekarssk on September 17, 2018 11:19PM0 -
Ir0nB34r✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesI want a class change token not because of the changes in the update, but because I really want a warden as my main and I do not want to start over and re-earn everything and farm all the skill points, etc.[XBOX][NA]
Breton | Sorcerer | Damage Dealer - Build Info (Coming Soon)
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Argonian | Dragon Knight | Tank - Build Info (Coming Soon)
(Retired)Breton | Sorcerer | Tank - Build Info (<< Link to Google Docs Page)"If you are quitting, can I have your stuff??"0 -
TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The last official word I heard is that ZOS never intends to add class changes.
So until they decide to change their minds...
I also can see both sides of the argument.
There is a good case to be made for adding class change (especially since not all classes were available at launch), and a good case against it. People have pretty much said all the arguments already here.
Though I have to say, "because they nerfed this class now" is not a good one, since they will -always- adjust things. Today its this getting nerfed, tomorrow its that getting nerfed... a class that was super-effective yesterday might not be after the round of rebalancings today, but might be good again next year... that sort of thing. Always chasing the META is not a good thing, way better to enjoy the game even if you have to think around some class shortcomings and stuff, adjust tactics or your skill load on occasion, etc...
Remember, the only constant is change, and the ones who thrive will be those who adapt to change!
In the end, we shall see if the ones in charge of such decisions at ZOS ever changes their minds about this, or not.0 -
Yolokin_Swagonborn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesInitially I was against class changes. But if ZOS is going to flip the meta on its head every darn patch. Then yes, we need them.2 -
MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesI'm done waiting for warden buffs. It's been 18 months and they just got ANOTHER set of NERFS. It's clear ZOS will never buff the class to respectable levels.
Would love to be able to respec into something else.Edited by MLGProPlayer on September 18, 2018 4:03AM0 -
Glurin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesI'm gonna go ahead and say yes for no other reason than if ZoS releases a new class in the future that I like better than the current ones, I'd like to change my main to that class so that I don't have to re-level all my crafting skills and research all the traits all over again, among other things.
Besides. ZoS could probably make a lot of money off the people who think every nerf is the end of all things for whoever it is that got nerfed."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."0 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesHonestly,is surprising to see there's no class change token yet.0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I am of the opinion that when ZOS makes huge sweeping changes like in Murkmire, everyone should get one free class change and more should be sold in the Crown Store.
I do not like the patch notes either but clearly a class change token will not be coming. Certainly obvious that a free one will not happen.0 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesI am of the opinion that when ZOS makes huge sweeping changes like in Murkmire, everyone should get one free class change and more should be sold in the Crown Store.
I do not like the patch notes either but clearly a class change token will not be coming. Certainly obvious that a free one will not happen.
Was just hoping they would follow the example of other games such as DDO. When they reworked classes and sensed that people might not enjoy their character anymore, they gave everyone a +20 heart of wood (effectively letting you re choose your levels from scratch with any class(es) you wanted)Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
KittyHazWares✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesI want class change tokens. The class you chose as your main in the beginning doesn’t always fit your playstyle. Most people do all their achievements on one toon and it’s usually their 1st created. The class they chose sometimes doesn’t fit for that person in pve/pvp combat.
Either make class change tokens or make some/most achievements account shared. At least PvP rank per faction..
For the record, I am not a sorcerer. Or mag warden.Edited by KittyHazWares on September 18, 2018 12:24PMXbox One NA0 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, we want Class Changes
I wouldn't say so. You mainly just go from one alt-unfriendly game to a slightly less alt-unfriendly game.
While alts are fast to level, it takes too much time to fully develop a character than a college student or full-time employee can realistically dedicate while still being able to enjoy their playtime doing other thingsValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, there should be no Class ChangesIt would be an endless cycle of people swapping to whatever the FOTM class is for each patch. I understand Sorc outrage, I really do. As someone who has primarily played Templar and DK since launch, I've watched my classes get completely gutted, over and over.
Those of you who truly love and are skilled with the class will persevere and still be effective. Those of you who've been playing sorc because easy mode, will have to reroll to a NB.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche2 -
KittyHazWares✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesWe don’t need a class change JUST because of the sorcerer nerfs.Xbox One NA0
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesIt would be an endless cycle of people swapping to whatever the FOTM class is for each patch. I understand Sorc outrage, I really do. As someone who has primarily played Templar and DK since launch, I've watched my classes get completely gutted, over and over.
Those of you who truly love and are skilled with the class will persevere and still be effective. Those of you who've been playing sorc because easy mode, will have to reroll to a NB.
That's the thing. Most of the people who truly love the class and are skilled with it also hate the changes and are actively thinking of quitting the game altogether over themValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
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Of all the MMORPGames I played, ESO is the most alt friendly.
I mean, the whole alternate advancement system (aka Champion Points) is account wide!
Every other one, you -don't- get a point from which on character advancement gets account wide, you gotta level each character on their own, each and every time they raise the level cap and stuff.
...then they did not love the class.That's the thing. Most of the people who truly love the class and are skilled with it also hate the changes and are actively thinking of quitting the game altogether over them
They loved the -advantage- that class gave them.
I played my favorite builds (stamina nightblade and magica sorceror) for quite a while. I will play them for a long time, no matter what they nerf... because I am playing my -characters- and not my -classes-. So what if I have a time when things get harder? Things change, all the time, this time that class gets nerfed, next time another class will get nerfed. Way of the world, way of the game. I'll still play my characters, because I like my character ideas!
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesTheShadowScout wrote: »
Of all the MMORPGames I played, ESO is the most alt friendly.
I mean, the whole alternate advancement system (aka Champion Points) is account wide!
Every other one, you -don't- get a point from which on character advancement gets account wide, you gotta level each character on their own, each and every time they raise the level cap and stuff.
...then they did not love the class.That's the thing. Most of the people who truly love the class and are skilled with it also hate the changes and are actively thinking of quitting the game altogether over them
They loved the -advantage- that class gave them.
I played my favorite builds (stamina nightblade and magica sorceror) for quite a while. I will play them for a long time, no matter what they nerf... because I am playing my -characters- and not my -classes-. So what if I have a time when things get harder? Things change, all the time, this time that class gets nerfed, next time another class will get nerfed. Way of the world, way of the game. I'll still play my characters, because I like my character ideas!
Not true. The Sorcerer playstyle has been changed and destroyed over and over and over again.
Just because they quit does not mean they "did not love the class"
They just love what the class used to be before it was demolished
They're just not having fun anymoreEdited by Valrien on September 18, 2018 3:03PMValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
SORjosh✭✭✭I have 2 of each class (mag and stam) maxed out ready for the roller coaster that this games balance cycle has become. When the nerf bat gets swung, don't cry, just move to the next class chosen to be the top dog. If you have four or five toons that are all the same class, you're doing it wrong imo. If you're crutching on op skills, expect to be nerfed at some point. You need a contingency plan.
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesI have 2 of each class (mag and stam) maxed out ready for the roller coaster that this games balance cycle has become. When the nerf bat gets swung, don't cry, just move to the next class chosen to be the top dog. If you have four or five toons that are all the same class, you're doing it wrong imo. If you're crutching on op skills, expect to be nerfed at some point. You need a contingency plan.
This is not the way you should be forced to play.
You should not be so afraid that your favorite class is going to be nerfed that you make 7 more contingency plans just so you can continue to enjoy the gameValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
Thaumic✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesYes, but not via token. I want to be able to freely switch between classes (outside of combat) so that I can learn all skills on the same character, in line with other Elder Scrolls games.PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff)0 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesYes, but not via token. I want to be able to freely switch between classes (outside of combat) so that I can learn all skills on the same character, in line with other Elder Scrolls games.
More like FFXIV than an ES gameValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
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acw37162✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, there should be no Class ChangesPandora's Box
Once you open up this revenue stream there is not closing it down and once the marketing people realize balance patch notes affect sales you will have conspiracy theories galore
They did this in DCUO and it was terrible IMO.
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Thorstienn✭✭✭No, there should be no Class ChangesI'm sorry, anyone that says yes to this should instead be hounding them to make guildlines/skyshards/achievements/etc account wide; then just pay (or use eso+) to make a new character.0 -
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Well, as I said:TheShadowScout wrote: »
Of all the MMORPGames I played, ESO is the most alt friendly.
I mean, the whole alternate advancement system (aka Champion Points) is account wide!
Every other one, you -don't- get a point from which on character advancement gets account wide, you gotta level each character on their own, each and every time they raise the level cap and stuff.
...then they did not love the class.That's the thing. Most of the people who truly love the class and are skilled with it also hate the changes and are actively thinking of quitting the game altogether over them
They loved the -advantage- that class gave them.
I played my favorite builds (stamina nightblade and magica sorceror) for quite a while. I will play them for a long time, no matter what they nerf... because I am playing my -characters- and not my -classes-. So what if I have a time when things get harder? Things change, all the time, this time that class gets nerfed, next time another class will get nerfed. Way of the world, way of the game. I'll still play my characters, because I like my character ideas!
Not true. The Sorcerer playstyle has been changed and destroyed over and over and over again.
Just because they quit does not mean they "did not love the class"
They just love what the class used to be before it was demolished
They're just not having fun anymore
If loosing your advantage means you are "not having fun anymore"... well, sorry to have to say it once again, but... then you did not love the -class- but the advantage.TheShadowScout wrote: »...then they did not love the class.
They loved the -advantage- that class gave them.
Me, I will keep playing my -magica sorceror-, because I love the character idea of my "goth librarian caster". Even when I will no longer be able to pop shields in PvP all the time. Even if I start loosing every PvP fight. (Okay, I am aware I suck a tthe PvPness, so that would not be such a big shock for me anyhow). Even if they nerf things, and change things... as long as I can keep casting purple-black crystals and curses, I'll be happy, because it fits the "goth" theme I envisioned for my character, which I love.1
8 chars for free, common bank, collectibles and stuff...