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Class Change Token
Valrien
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Please. For everyone, really, but especially for Sorc.
I am of the opinion that when ZOS makes huge sweeping changes like in Murkmire, everyone should get one free class change and more should be sold in the Crown Store.
The 4.2.0 Patch Notes genuinely disgust me.
I am of the opinion that when ZOS makes huge sweeping changes like in Murkmire, everyone should get one free class change and more should be sold in the Crown Store.
The 4.2.0 Patch Notes genuinely disgust me.
Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)
Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake
Class Change Token 226 votes
Yes, we want Class Changes
63%
143 votes
No, there should be no Class Changes
36%
83 votes
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_Ahala_✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, there should be no Class ChangesNo, zos should actually attempt to balance the classes... this system would actually reward them for breaking the game for 1/2 their community as they would likely monetize the token after10 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesNo, zos should actually attempt to balance the classes... this system would actually reward them for breaking the game for 1/2 their community as they would likely monetize the token after
They already are with race changes. Forcing all mag builds to switch to Stamina. May as well not lock it to class.Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake4 -
Aebaradath✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, there should be no Class ChangesThe class change token should be exclusive to Wardens only.
Otherwise, nope, no, nada.5 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesPelinalWhitestrake wrote: »The class change token should be exclusive to Wardens only.
Otherwise, nope, no, nada.
You say as Sorcs are destroyed patch-by-patch lol...Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
fierackas✭✭✭✭✭No, there should be no Class ChangesIf Sorcs make up 1/2 the community as you state that just shows there needed to be changes3
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, there should be no Class ChangesNope. Didn't get them when everyone else got hit by balance passes.
Besides Stam Sorc is still an option!
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"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."3 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesIf Sorcs make up 1/2 the community as you state that just shows there needed to be changes
Never said that, someone else didValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, there should be no Class ChangesHang on, let me consult with a Priestess of Natchpotesdrama...
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesNope. Didn't get them when everyone else got hit by balance passes.
Besides Stam Sorc is still an option!
Tbh I just want to main Nightblade like ZOS wants me to. I have a stamblade but it feels wrong when I have a character of 4.5 years.Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, there should be no Class Changes
Well I mean you could main one. However then you're just going to be annoyed again when the nerfs come to them.
@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, we want Class Changes
Well I mean you could main one. However then you're just going to be annoyed again when the nerfs come to them.
Nightblade doesn't really get nerfed though lol. They actually got buffed this patch.
And no, I cannot main a nightblade when all of my achievments and map completion is on my Sorc. That's basically just throwing away 4 and a half years of workValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake6 -
frostz417✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, there should be no Class ChangesAlso, play a different class if you’re so upset about sorcs. It’s what everyone else who played other classes did.5 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesAlso, play a different class if you’re so upset about sorcs. It’s what everyone else who played other classes did.
Lol...literally what I'm asking for...Valrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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✭✭✭No, there should be no Class Changes
Well I mean you could main one. However then you're just going to be annoyed again when the nerfs come to them.
Nightblade doesn't really get nerfed though lol. They actually got buffed this patch.
And no, I cannot main a nightblade when all of my achievments and map completion is on my Sorc. That's basically just throwing away 4 and a half years of work
You mean 4 and 1/2 years of play, right? I get paid to work.5 -
No, there should be no Class ChangesIf you aren't willing to pay for a class change token, just shelve your sorc and play something else if you really want to be a top performer. Or, just keep playing it. I've mained a magDK for the duration of the game's life and I can say from experience that we had our hay day, then a very , very painful and long period of time when we absolutely sucked at everything. But as balancing in MMOs goes, your class will bounce back. That's just the way it is.
I will say though, the changes to sorc specifically did genuinely make me feel bad for you guys. No rune prison will ever land again now that you get a whopping 1.2 seconds to dodge it, and defensive shield stacking is a thing of the past. Now sorcs are prone to interruption during their primary source of defense, and on top of that, critical hits now affect shields, and shields' defenses have damage mitigation factored in, so god forbid a light armor wearing magsorc ever faces off with any stam build. ZOS really dropped the ball on this one, and I don't even play sorc. Just feels kind of unfair.3 -
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✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesBouldercleave wrote: »
Well I mean you could main one. However then you're just going to be annoyed again when the nerfs come to them.
Nightblade doesn't really get nerfed though lol. They actually got buffed this patch.
And no, I cannot main a nightblade when all of my achievments and map completion is on my Sorc. That's basically just throwing away 4 and a half years of work
You mean 4 and 1/2 years of play, right? I get paid to work.
Getting achievments is both work and play.
You get paid for having a job that you do work at. You do not get paid for playing a game that you do work inValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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Bouldercleave✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No, there should be no Class ChangesBouldercleave wrote: »
Well I mean you could main one. However then you're just going to be annoyed again when the nerfs come to them.
Nightblade doesn't really get nerfed though lol. They actually got buffed this patch.
And no, I cannot main a nightblade when all of my achievments and map completion is on my Sorc. That's basically just throwing away 4 and a half years of work
You mean 4 and 1/2 years of play, right? I get paid to work.
Getting achievments is both work and play.
You get paid for having a job that you do work at. You do not get paid for playing a game that you do work in
I see - we have different definitions of "work".2 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, there should be no Class Changes
"this patch", we know how this goes. They're going to get a huge slap at some point.
Well I mean you could main one. However then you're just going to be annoyed again when the nerfs come to them.
Nightblade doesn't really get nerfed though lol. They actually got buffed this patch.
And no, I cannot main a nightblade when all of my achievments and map completion is on my Sorc. That's basically just throwing away 4 and a half years of work
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, we want Class Changes
"this patch", we know how this goes. They're going to get a huge slap at some point.
Well I mean you could main one. However then you're just going to be annoyed again when the nerfs come to them.
Nightblade doesn't really get nerfed though lol. They actually got buffed this patch.
And no, I cannot main a nightblade when all of my achievments and map completion is on my Sorc. That's basically just throwing away 4 and a half years of work
Then by this logic, they're due for a MASSIVE slap...considering...well, they've reigned for quite a while lolValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, there should be no Class Changes
Everything's reigned for long periods of time at some point. Look at these forums a year ago, two years ago.
"this patch", we know how this goes. They're going to get a huge slap at some point.
Well I mean you could main one. However then you're just going to be annoyed again when the nerfs come to them.
Nightblade doesn't really get nerfed though lol. They actually got buffed this patch.
And no, I cannot main a nightblade when all of my achievments and map completion is on my Sorc. That's basically just throwing away 4 and a half years of work
Then by this logic, they're due for a MASSIVE slap...considering...well, they've reigned for quite a while lol
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✭No, there should be no Class ChangesIf Sorcs make up 1/2 the community as you state that just shows there needed to be changes
People using light armor makes up 1/2 the community... you immediately assuming sorc just goes to show how people don’t even consider the effect these changes will have on Magdk, Magblade, and that atrocious half breed that peaks out from a dung pile when you commit the sin of trying build a Stamden as a mage1 -
Jinchuu✭✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesNeed class and race change tokens along with both respecs (given for free on each character) so we can reroll to the bosmer stamblades they obviously want us to be.Unless you are willing to be a mindless sycophant and/or coddle others due to their insecurities prepare to be harrased by the Orwellian enforcers on these forums. You should also try to refrain from using any words more complex than those used by a small child due to the fact that said enforcers have made it clear that their vocabulary pool is aenemic.0
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iiYuki✭✭✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesI think class tokens should exists but personally I wouldn't use one. I would rather quit then re roll my character."Play how you want... unless its not how we intended you to play in which case we'll nerf it".
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✭✭No, there should be no Class ChangesAs much as I don't like(I'm being polite) the recent changes to the sorcerer class I believe that there should never be class change token.
Players need meaningful choices when they create their character and this particular meaningful choice should last forever.
Also, if such a token will ever be implemented, many players will switch to other class instead of actually trying to deal with issues/other type of gameplay.
The soon this token will be implemented everyone will switch to the Nightblade class
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, we want Class ChangesAs much as I don't like(I'm being polite) the recent changes to the sorcerer class I believe that there should never be class change token.
Players need meaningful choices when they create their character and this particular meaningful choice should last forever.
Also, if such a token will ever be implemented, many players will switch to other class instead of actually trying to deal with issues/other type of gameplay.
The soon this token will be implemented everyone will switch to the Nightblade class
No, they really don't need these kinds of meaningful choices. Especially not when you could be screwed by ZOS at the drop of a hatValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
Garahel Dravic -- Level 50 Bosmeri Nightblade (EP)Tamriel Unlimited was a mistake. One Tamriel was a bigger mistake0 -
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✭No, there should be no Class ChangesNope, didn't get one when other classes were "gutted", don't see why magsorcs should be the exception. 4 1/2 years huh? So why are you not aware how the cycle goes? No one stays on top forever. Gotta love players who dismiss the hardship of the other "gutted" classes over the years, as if magsorcs are all that matters.
4 1/2 years of Achievements should have zero bearing on a pvp toon. You're there to kill. Role a new pvp toon. I have one for no cp cyro, no cp BG's and one for cp cyro. Not sure why players who refuse to be prepared for every scenario but expect to dominate every scenario should be catered to.
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arasysb14_ESO✭✭✭✭No, there should be no Class ChangesThey could cycle through all classes' nerfs to even push sales of something like class change token to milk crown store revenue. If they came up with something like this right after nerfing sorcerers with today's PTS notes, I would seriously consider quitting the game for good.
My main is magicka sorcerer, and don't really play alts btwArasys Llanor, CP 800+ Magicka Sorcerer NA
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Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, we want Class Changesarasysb14_ESO wrote: »They could cycle through all classes' nerfs to even push sales of something like class change token to milk crown store revenue. If they came up with something like this right after nerfing sorcerers with today's PTS notes, I would seriously consider quitting the game for good.
My main is magicka sorcerer, and don't really play alts btw
You mean like they already do with Mag vs Stam to push race changes? There's precedent for this, may as well go all the wayValrien Dravic -- Level 50 Dunmeri Sorcerer (EP)
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✭Yes, we want Class ChangesI wouldn't change my sorc after all this time, I'm too used to her, but might as well have the option. I understand that they don't want people to keep switching to the FoTM build every two minutes, but by continually nerfing classes, they're effectively forcing people to re-roll anyway if they want to keep doing endgame content. They wont do it though, think of all that cash they make from people purchasing extra character slots, riding lessons, exp scrolls etc for new alts.PC EU & NA0