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Stamblade in heavy

ruikkarikun
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What is current heavy setup for stamblade and why it is better/worse against medium setup in your opinion?
  • Finviuswe
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    I don't know if it's better than medium. There are plenty of people who would disagree with that.
  • Lexxypwns
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    I think it’s far superior to medium personally. You are less cloak reliant and that opens up much longer offensive windows. Also heavy gives superior stam sustain(and offers mag sustain) as well as better set options.

    Currently running 7th+Ravager with Master DW back bar. Shout out to @LegendaryMage who basically convinced me to check out Ravager front bar over truth back bar, it’s beautiful
    Edited by Lexxypwns on September 16, 2018 2:20AM
  • KingJ
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    I think it’s far superior to medium personally. You are less cloak reliant and that opens up much longer offensive windows. Also heavy gives superior stam sustain(and offers mag sustain) as well as better set options.

    Currently running 7th+Ravager with Master DW back bar. Shout out to @LegendaryMage who basically convinced me to check out Ravager front bar over truth back bar, it’s beautiful
    Have you tired Veiled Heritance it seems like you have a higher uptime on that than Ravager.Pairing it with 7th wouldn't be bad.

    Everything you said is correct heavy is just in general better than medium it gives you a longer offensive window,better sustain better healing.
  • DUTCH_REAPER
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    Following
  • DUTCH_REAPER
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    Not purposely trying to go off topic but are there MNB in heavy as well?
  • ruikkarikun
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Currently running 7th+Ravager with Master DW back bar.
    How bad is without master weapons (RNG don't give me them)? Also what other setups can you reccomend for the begining.
  • Lexxypwns
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Currently running 7th+Ravager with Master DW back bar.
    How bad is without master weapons (RNG don't give me them)? Also what other setups can you reccomend for the begining.

    With no master weapons I’d runt Truth back bar and Asylum 2h front bar.
    KingJ wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    I think it’s far superior to medium personally. You are less cloak reliant and that opens up much longer offensive windows. Also heavy gives superior stam sustain(and offers mag sustain) as well as better set options.

    Currently running 7th+Ravager with Master DW back bar. Shout out to @LegendaryMage who basically convinced me to check out Ravager front bar over truth back bar, it’s beautiful
    Have you tired Veiled Heritance it seems like you have a higher uptime on that than Ravager.Pairing it with 7th wouldn't be bad.

    Everything you said is correct heavy is just in general better than medium it gives you a longer offensive window,better sustain better healing.

    I haven’t tried it. I think Truth>Heritance though.
  • Finviuswe
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    KingJ wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    I think it’s far superior to medium personally. You are less cloak reliant and that opens up much longer offensive windows. Also heavy gives superior stam sustain(and offers mag sustain) as well as better set options.

    Currently running 7th+Ravager with Master DW back bar. Shout out to @LegendaryMage who basically convinced me to check out Ravager front bar over truth back bar, it’s beautiful
    Have you tired Veiled Heritance it seems like you have a higher uptime on that than Ravager.Pairing it with 7th wouldn't be bad.

    Everything you said is correct heavy is just in general better than medium it gives you a longer offensive window,better sustain better healing.

    I like Ravager over veiled heritance. I've found the uptime to be about the same in duels, and for the rest, it doesn't matter. If you're a heavy stamblade you're killing everything within 10 feet of you and you are one of the harder specs to kill.
  • KingJ
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    ESO_GOD wrote: »
    KingJ wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    I think it’s far superior to medium personally. You are less cloak reliant and that opens up much longer offensive windows. Also heavy gives superior stam sustain(and offers mag sustain) as well as better set options.

    Currently running 7th+Ravager with Master DW back bar. Shout out to @LegendaryMage who basically convinced me to check out Ravager front bar over truth back bar, it’s beautiful
    Have you tired Veiled Heritance it seems like you have a higher uptime on that than Ravager.Pairing it with 7th wouldn't be bad.

    Everything you said is correct heavy is just in general better than medium it gives you a longer offensive window,better sustain better healing.

    I like Ravager over veiled heritance. I've found the uptime to be about the same in duels, and for the rest, it doesn't matter. If you're a heavy stamblade you're killing everything within 10 feet of you and you are one of the harder specs to kill.
    I never felt Ravager uptime was that high for me.Heavy Bleed blade has been nice.
  • LegendaryMage
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    @Lexxypwns Glad I could help bud, hf!
  • TheYKcid
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    I think it’s far superior to medium personally. You are less cloak reliant and that opens up much longer offensive windows. Also heavy gives superior stam sustain(and offers mag sustain) as well as better set options.

    Currently running 7th+Ravager with Master DW back bar. Shout out to @LegendaryMage who basically convinced me to check out Ravager front bar over truth back bar, it’s beautiful

    How's the uptime with Ravager on 2H mainbar?

    I was under the impression that you needed the DW heavies + Rending to get enough direct melee instances to proc Ravager. As a result I've always used Veiled instead (which gives anything from 60-100% uptime).
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  • ChefZero
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    Not purposely trying to go off topic but are there MNB in heavy as well?

    Yes but stam has access to better HA sets.
    PC EU - DC only
  • mojomood
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    I assume you mean in CP.

    7th + insert proc weapon damage set + master axes

    Because the fights in CP are getting so long (and boring) Ravager should have time to proc and allow you to use to your benefit, but that will be more resource intensive to get the proc.

    Another option is Fury, but stamblades don't have stam warden heals so it could get tricky unless you can keep a close eye on that health and turn on at the right time. Mainly for kiting, turning and burning.

    Last option that I've seen on a very strong stamblade is Hundings. Because it has 100% uptime, you can keep consistent pressure and consistent heals. Add a strong crit rating and crit CP and you can get a lot of big boy heals incoming.

    Clever is an option but the long downtime does not work well with the long fight meta.
  • ruikkarikun
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    I see only one changes to medium armor in PTS patch notes, so seems heavy setup will be viewable in next update without any changes?
  • Finviuswe
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    I see only one changes to medium armor in PTS patch notes, so seems heavy setup will be viewable in next update without any changes?

    Come again?
  • Sevn
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    Anyone have recommendations that don't include Master/AS/Vma weapons? Something for the regular folks?
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    Sevn wrote: »
    Anyone have recommendations that don't include Master/AS/Vma weapons? Something for the regular folks?

    Troll king/ 7th/ bone pirate.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Sevn
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    Sevn wrote: »
    Anyone have recommendations that don't include Master/AS/Vma weapons? Something for the regular folks?

    Troll king/ 7th/ bone pirate.

    Those I have. Perfect. Thanks for the reply!
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  • Finviuswe
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    Sevn wrote: »
    Anyone have recommendations that don't include Master/AS/Vma weapons? Something for the regular folks?

    Troll king/ 7th/ bone pirate.

    This is enough to compete with any build in the game. Simple but very effective setup.
  • AceAegis
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    7th/ Impreg/ BS 5 medium 2 heavy. 1 swift/ 2 robust. steed mundus, artaeum food. 7x impen. take all cp out of crit resitance and place into medium resist/ spell resist. 1 mag regen and 2 wep dmg on jewels.

    Your stats fully buffed with infused wep enchant and 7th will be 4600 wep dmg, 1700 stam regen, 800 mag regen, 1400 health regen. 4000 crit resistance, 36 pct crit chance. 27k phy/spell resist with bloodspawn proc or 21k without.

    I run cloak (shadowy disguise), mirage, leeching strikes, forward momentum, mass hysteria, and temporal guard on backbar.
    Relentless focus, blood craze, surprise attack, steel tornado, vigor and incap/ dawnbreaker on frontbar.

    This is how I like to run bleedblade, you should change what is uncomfortable. BS for trollking, impreg for heavy hundings or fury, shuffle if you want rally burst heal. I have tried almost all combinations with and without masters dw, this works best for me when not using masters.
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  • Feannag
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    Question on sets...I often see people pairing something like Veiled or Ravager with another set like Seventh or Impreg/Brass. Is there a reason people don't pair Veiled with Ravager...I would think since the process off variations of hitting targets, they would work well?

    Thanks
    Feannag
  • Mudvaynn
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    I'm sorry for the noob question but... How can Heavy armor gives more stam resources than medium?
  • KingJ
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    Mudvaynn wrote: »
    I'm sorry for the noob question but... How can Heavy armor gives more stam resources than medium?
    Heavy attacks plus you use FM which is alot cheaper than Shuffle.To keep the uptime on snare removal it cost alot of stam plus in heavy you don't need to dodge roll alot so less stam altogether.
  • IlCanis_LupuslI
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    Heavy hundings+witchmans armor+balrogh(or whatever it's called) 2h/resto works sweet, incap tool tip goes up to 22k despite having only 30k Stam as a khajiit
    Turns out crushing weapons is a very nice spammable with resto staff at range, had up to 7.5k crits yesterday and people get totally confused when they get hit by it like"restostaff on Stam wtf.? Crushing weapons is totally garbage who uses it" :lol:
    Edited by IlCanis_LupuslI on September 20, 2018 3:15PM
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  • Mudvaynn
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    I think it’s far superior to medium personally. You are less cloak reliant and that opens up much longer offensive windows. Also heavy gives superior stam sustain(and offers mag sustain) as well as better set options.

    Currently running 7th+Ravager with Master DW back bar. Shout out to @LegendaryMage who basically convinced me to check out Ravager front bar over truth back bar, it’s beautiful

    I feel curious on how can you hold your stam sustain with this setup. I'm currently running Shackle+bone (heavy setup), sure it is enough sustain, but on your case... I fell very, very curious.
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    Builds like that get weapon damage from sets, so they are free to use sustain jewelry glyphs. If you don't mind losing some max stats (if you just push weapon damage), then you can even go infused on jewelry with cost reduction glyphs. ;)

    Also, redguard + infused weapon with stam absorb is a really nice sustain boost. You basically amplify 700 or so from adrenaline rush with another 450 on the same cooldown.
  • RighteousBacon
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    Mudvaynn wrote: »
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    I think it’s far superior to medium personally. You are less cloak reliant and that opens up much longer offensive windows. Also heavy gives superior stam sustain(and offers mag sustain) as well as better set options.

    Currently running 7th+Ravager with Master DW back bar. Shout out to @LegendaryMage who basically convinced me to check out Ravager front bar over truth back bar, it’s beautiful

    I feel curious on how can you hold your stam sustain with this setup. I'm currently running Shackle+bone (heavy setup), sure it is enough sustain, but on your case... I fell very, very curious.

    It’s a different playstylr that involves a lot Moreno heavy attacking. Mostly around LOS
  • PickleRick
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    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/436920/a-simple-heavy-stamblade-build-for-solo-play

    This is what I’m running. Could sub another damage set in for Shackle, but I like the combination of sustain for both stam and Mag plus added damage.
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