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Official Discussion Thread for "Introducing the Hollowjack Crown Crate Season & Giveaway!"

  • Haenk
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    They don't deserve to demand an unlivable amount of a paycheck for a "maybe".

    Their game, their rules. Not your game, your rules.
    If you don't like their rules, you are free to leave or not to buy anything they offer.
    All of the (absurdly overpriced, I can easily agree) store items are (maybe except the DLCs) absolutely *not* needed to play the game. As in "these are pure luxury items".

  • Tai-Chi
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    Radiance wrote: »
    Bring back the Black Cat with the Red Ribbon!!!

    The Black Cat was a limited edition Valentine's day, Crown Store special 2 years ago and not a Witches Festival special.
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  • GaunterODim
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    Finally... the treasure hunter outfit. It will finally be mine.
  • Jayne_Doe
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    Interesting that the zombie horse and masks that were holiday store items the last 2 years are now in the crates. I'm guessing there will be new holiday items in the store this year, though I don't really care for spooky stuff.

    All in all I'm not interested in this season. I don't buy crates anyway, but I can save my free gems for the next season. I doubt ZOS will be as generous with free crates moving forward as they were with the Psijic ones.
  • Acrolas
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    Anyway, before you panic, we'll probably get another ESO+ event before these crates go away.

    The January '18 ESO+ trial included the Flame Atronach crates, so if they follow the same schedule the promotion will cover the next season of crates and not Hollowjack.

    Real Money Gatchapon system

    You can only use a virtual currency to obtain Crown Crates. Please refer to the TOS about virtual currency, including the fact that it has no real monetary value.
  • Hoolielulu
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    The three free ones will be as far as I go this time. I got seriously boned the last time I bought crates. If you're going to dangle a carrot at least give people a nibble.

    That chicken tho...
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  • MehrunesFlagon
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    When do we need to log in and kill the stuff?I can't seem to access the page that tells me when.
  • Mystrius_Archaion
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    Real Money Gatchapon system

    You can only use a virtual currency to obtain Crown Crates. Please refer to the TOS about virtual currency, including the fact that it has no real monetary value.

    If actually tested in any court case, that will hold as much water as an upside down bucket since they sell that "virtual currency" directly for money.
    The ONLY chance they would have is that the items you use that virtual currency on are not directly paid for by real money, but that's only if there is a legal loophole for that since anybody with any ability to recognize "cause and effect" will see that it is close enough to direct.

    Anyway, you don't want to argue whether or not it has "real value" unless you really want to bring in the inevitable "is it exploitative/illegal" discussion in this. The correct answer to the post you quoted, if you wanted to avoid that discussion, was the ignore the post completely, just like the developers do and anybody with any public relations experience will do when they say "no comment" to a direct easy to answer question.
    Edited by Mystrius_Archaion on September 15, 2018 8:04AM
    If we wanted "challenge" in City of Heroes we would solo the content. If we wanted fun we would form a random PUG the majority of the time and just "wreck face!" feeling overpowered. That was the most fun of any game I've ever played so why does no other "newer" game design that way? I guess they like players never feeling good enough and the inevitable "max level rat/worm/insect/this-shouldn't-be-a-threatening-enemy-but-it-is" effect.
  • Acrolas
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    If actually tested in any court case, that will hold as much water as an upside down bucket since they sell that "virtual currency" directly for money.

    They rent the service lease to exchange the virtual currency for in-game items for money.

    I know the most common counter-example is that you're allowed to sublease an apartment you're renting, but that's not accurate. You're only legally allowed to sublease an apartment if the lease explicitly permits you to. A lease that doesn't mention subleasing is not permission to sublease.

    Everything in the store is a rental, and ZOS is explicit that we don't own the crowns and we don't own the items redeemed with crowns. Buying crowns is giving consent that you understand and accept these lease terms.


    But it'll never be tested in court because we all agree to section 15 of the TOS, so it's all a bit irrelevant.

    The correct answer to the post you quoted, if you wanted to avoid that discussion, was the ignore the post completely, just like the developers do and anybody with any public relations experience will do when they say "no comment" to a direct easy to answer question.

    I don't represent ZOS so if I want to shut down a post filled with misleading emotional bait with a few actual facts, I can.

  • Rattlesnark
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    General feedback on event announcements:
    For the major events/festivals, you send letters to players informing them of it. Could the same please be implemented for the small ones such as these "kill one monster per day" ones that provide free goodies? Otherwise, perhaps a message in the 'announcements' tab in-game?

    I boot my game up via Steam, so I miss the launcher window and the announcements posted on it. Would be a big plus if it were announced in-game as well!
  • Reistr_the_Unbroken
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    Daedric skull looks amazing and I want it- but no way is it worth 100 gems
  • Girl_Number8
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    The gem only pet makes some sense. We've been getting a lot of free gems from twitch and monthly rewards and they want to remove some of that from the system. Seems ok to me.

    Except 2/3 of their player base has been excluded day one from the twitch rewards. Seems pretty crappy in the end if you ask me.

    Awesome~ I couldn't agree more with you~
  • Casdha
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    Of course I missed another one, Crappy 2 day heads up and it was not on my launcher Thursday, last time I logged in.

    Only seems fit I missed this, first three days I haven't played in 3+months. Ah well no need to log in until Murkmire as there are no more crates in the daily rewards this month. I think its about time for a break.

    Edit: didn't get an email heads up either. Only reason I checked here today is to see if the Psijic Villa had been released yet.
    Edited by Casdha on September 17, 2018 1:44PM
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  • SilverWF
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    And how and when I'll get this 3 free Hollowjack crates?

    Today I've got 2 mails, that said I've got 1 Ouroboros crate (so 2 in total) as Twitch reward.
    Greetings
    You've successfully redeemed a code for The Elder Scrolls® Online. We're applying it to your account now! Your receipt and further details can be found below.
    Redemption Receipt
    Ouroboros Crown Crate
    Code : ...
    Congratulations! You’ve received an Ouroboros Crown Crate as a Twitch Drop. You can access your new crate from the Crown Crates menu in game. To earn additional rewards, keep watching drop-enabled ESO streams on Twitch!

    So I'm curious now
    Edited by SilverWF on September 17, 2018 4:29PM
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  • Acrolas
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    SilverWF wrote: »
    And how and when I'll get this 3 free Hollowjack crates?


    "You'll be rewarded with a new crate for every day you participate (up to a max of three), and you'll receive your earned crates by Wednesday, September 19. That’s the day before they’re available in the store. You will be able to find your free crate in your Crown Crates menu."

  • shiningforce
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    Some things look interesting but nothing really great. The Mounnts imo are pretty plain, should have had mounts with pestilence skin falling off with flys around them or skeletons with ghostly figures that trail bones behind them....... The Netch is WAAAY too expensive, I think I'll pass at 300, I could see a 100 gem item on that but no more. The Gems on things are becoming way too expensive as well, at this rate ill probably hold off on the loot crates seeing as though I got screwed the last time I bought crates, 8 of the exact same card i got last time....... Honestly I think Belgium has something with the gambling on loot crates BS. I want to know what I am paying for.
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  • LadyLethalla
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    Since the last 3-4 occasions I've cleared a fishing hole or three haven't turned up a single Pyandonean bottle, and given I don't think I ever got a motif out of any bottle anyway, I'm tempted to cash in my Resplendent Sweetroll to get the remaining missing motif pages before they're gone...
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  • Kolache
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    Aliyavana wrote: »
    300 crown gems for an 'exclusive' pet netch? What a waste.

    It's a cute pet

    haha yeah... totally... who would pay for that?.... >.>
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  • DeadlyRecluse
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    Does the Daemon Cockerel do anything special? I'm assuming it has some twist a la the devil goat, at 100 gems and that name...
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  • Marshall6268
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    Am i the only one who noticed that the Daemon cockerel does not display the red glow coming out from eyes?
  • severuscrowley
    severuscrowley
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    The only thing i had remote interest in was the Hallowjack Netch pet...but to make it gems only?? Why do you keep finding ways for us NOT to throw money at you, if this were crowns i'd be all over it, but i refuse to ever buy into gambling crates. So much for my favorite season to buy items.

  • MrGraves
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    The only thing i had remote interest in was the Hallowjack Netch pet...but to make it gems only?? Why do you keep finding ways for us NOT to throw money at you, if this were crowns i'd be all over it, but i refuse to ever buy into gambling crates. So much for my favorite season to buy items.

    Is there even any way to buy the netch at all? I dont see an option in the store to buy it (with gems)

    Or did I miss something....
  • Starlock
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    I suppose it is poetic that a great crate seasons is followed by what I'd consider the worst. In the interest of providing the marketing team with some feedback, I'd like to make clear what it is that I don't like about this crate season as this is the only season yet that I will not buy a 15 pack of.

    Why in bloody Mara's name is Halloween - a secularized Pagan holiday - being inserted into the Elder Scrolls Universe?

    I get it. I get that secular Halloween is popular in English speaking countries, particularly the United States. I get that it has now become the second biggest seasonal cash cow in terms of wasteful expenditures and consumer spending. You want to cash in on that too. I get it. But between Reaper's Harvest last year and the more overt imagery in Hollowjack this year (come on - headless riders with Jack'o'Lanterns?!), it needs to be said that this is pushing over a line. I don't want to see this again next year. I don't want to see this become a trend any worse than it already has. I mean, you could have structured all this around existing lore while still paying a nod to secular holidays in the apparent world. Instead, we have candy emotes, pumpkin carving emotes, and other crap that really shouldn't have been put in this game. Why not expand on the actual lore of the Witches Festival from Daggerfall?
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  • mateosalvaje
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    Does anyone know how much longer this season will be available? I have a ton of gems saved from free crates, but I don't want to spend them until I know I won't be getting any more free rolls of the dice :wink:
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