Was Emp Disabled for the Added Campaigns?

antihero727

Yes I am very triggered

harmsway

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/434239/kastav-emp-bug#latest @ZOS_GinaBruno happened to this guy we tried getting emp for. Will those all that did this and have proof receive emp? I would hope so.

HaroniNDeorum

I think they should receive the achievement and tittle "Former Emperor....of a useless dead campaign"

antihero727

HaroniNDeorum wrote: »

I think they should receive the achievement and tittle "Former Emperor....of a useless dead campaign"

Give the PvE people that want a dye and chair for their house a break. You should receive the title of “can’t beat them join them” title.

HaroniNDeorum

The salt flows

SugaComa

Stamicka wrote: »

In both Kastav and Dalbei all of the required keeps are taken but the number 1 person doesn’t get crowned as Emp. Is this intended for the event?

No ... What usually happens is a emp gets crowned and then abdicates ...

Then the same faction push for emp and get all the keeps but no emp is crowned ... This is because although the emp abdicated you still have to "lose" emp ... That means you have to lose all the emp keeps and win them back ... This often doesn't happen as people don't get the mechanic

My emp push in shor was so hard cos the damn emp before me abdicated and trying to get my own faction to let the other teams take the keeps was a nightmare

It was even harder cos we also had to defend them so the other teams didn't get emp either

36 hours of constant game play

Stamicka

SugaComa wrote: »

Stamicka wrote: »

In both Kastav and Dalbei all of the required keeps are taken but the number 1 person doesn’t get crowned as Emp. Is this intended for the event?

No ... What usually happens is a emp gets crowned and then abdicates ...

Then the same faction push for emp and get all the keeps but no emp is crowned ... This is because although the emp abdicated you still have to "lose" emp ... That means you have to lose all the emp keeps and win them back ... This often doesn't happen as people don't get the mechanic

My emp push in shor was so hard cos the damn emp before me abdicated and trying to get my own faction to let the other teams take the keeps was a nightmare

It was even harder cos we also had to defend them so the other teams didn't get emp either

36 hours of constant game play

That’s not the case here, this is something totally different. ZOS is already looking into the situation.

antihero727

HaroniNDeorum wrote: »

The salt flows

Salt is the wrong word, Disappointed, betrayed, waste of time and resources are more appropriate. See you on the other side if we are ever in the same timeslot.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Hi everyone,

After some investigation, we have identified the issue with gaining the Emperor achievement in the following new campaigns that we opened for the Imperial City Celebration Event:

• Alkosh
• D'Albei
• Kastav

In order to fix this issue, we do need to perform a server reboot on all servers. Due to this, we will be fixing the issue during the planned maintenance period on Monday morning (Sept. 10) for all platforms.

You are still able to earn the Emperor achievement in all other Cyrodiil campaigns.

SugaComa

Leave it as is .... This is better for the majority of PvP players

JohnVNovelli

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone,

After some investigation, we have identified the issue with gaining the Emperor achievement in the following new campaigns that we opened for the Imperial City Celebration Event:

• Alkosh
• D'Albei
• Kastav

In order to fix this issue, we do need to perform a server reboot on all servers. Due to this, we will be fixing the issue during the planned maintenance period on Monday morning (Sept. 10) for all platforms.

You are still able to earn the Emperor achievement in all other Cyrodiil campaigns.

Don't know if this is unknown atm but we currently have all scrolls and all keeps and only have Offensive/Defensive scroll bonus 1 as well as Enemy keep bonus 8.

Edit: We have lost the scrolls and keeps but still have the same Enemy Keep bonus 8 and off/def scroll bonus 1.

Jujubee1982

fix it? or break it more? hmmmmm....
either way, I'm sure that those who put in the work to get this achievement would still like to know if they are going to actually receive said achievement or are they going to have to do everything all over again. I've helped numerous people push in all campaigns before, I myself have attempted to grind first in vivec and other campaigns- so I know how hard the grind can be and I know there are quite a few individuals who are disappointed with this whole situation. Some more answers to their questions would be nice is all.

HaroniNDeorum

antihero727 wrote: »

HaroniNDeorum wrote: »

The salt flows

Salt is the wrong word, Disappointed, betrayed, waste of time and resources are more appropriate. See you on the other side if we are ever in the same timeslot.

I will stop paying attention to this comments, i have better things to do qith my time . See you soon i hope your guild practice, because we are doing it

Mystrius_Archaion

I'm exclusively a PVEplayer.
I still want the emperor costume and dye and chair as they are all unique and interesting, for the right character and situation.

I'll never get it, sadly, as this system is completely screwed and wrong and far from even attainable as it support unhealthy "pissing in a bottle" gameplay.

/add reason 1000 to list of "reasons to quit the game and take my money elsewhere"
...just looking for reason 1001 to trigger "the exodus".

HaroniNDeorum

Hmmm well i want the skin from vHRC or something but i know i will never get it lol i am pvper and enjoy pvp a lot more than pve but i wont blame system if i go pve forums and post "yo i want that sweet skin on easy mode" they will just joke or say it would be unfair because they worked so hard to get it. Same is my feeling for emperorship.

/i will add zos only cares crown store, every other situation, they will zzzz...

preedb16_ESO2

Hmm, nothing in the patch notes about broken emperor fix?

AboKor

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone,

After some investigation, we have identified the issue with gaining the Emperor achievement in the following new campaigns that we opened for the Imperial City Celebration Event:

• Alkosh
• D'Albei
• Kastav

In order to fix this issue, we do need to perform a server reboot on all servers. Due to this, we will be fixing the issue during the planned maintenance period on Monday morning (Sept. 10) for all platforms.

You are still able to earn the Emperor achievement in all other Cyrodiil campaigns.

I check your patch... nothing about problem resolving

Beardimus

preedb16_ESO2 wrote: »

Hmm, nothing in the patch notes about broken emperor fix?

guessing its just missing from notes, as it sounded from @ZOS_JessicaFolsom's update like they had done the change before but needed the servers to reboot to fix it.

I'm still curious if someone somewhere intended it. I for one for be OK wth Emp off on those campaigns given the recent boosting / flipping behavour i see from alliance switchers. HOWEVER it would need to be communicated in advance, and I think thats the hard part of the bug, the folks that had pushed.

Miswar

There should be NO emperors at these flip flop campagins.

You want than go play some campaign where you have to earn it.

I thought they disabled that on purpose but seems like NOT the case which is ridicilious to say at least.

I want Maelmstrom guaranteed weapons, all the trials skins with 0 effort. Can the PvP players have that too? It seems I'am missing some of those.

Come on ZOS have some RESPECT towards the your whindling PvP community. No freebie emps way too many of those already at the game as it is.

MinarasLaure

Lol another fail.

ZOS_GinaBruno

preedb16_ESO2 wrote: »

Hmm, nothing in the patch notes about broken emperor fix?

It wasn't technically part of the patch, so the fix wasn't listed. That said, it appears as though Emperorship is now working after the maintenance we performed. Can you all confirm?

Beardimus

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

preedb16_ESO2 wrote: »

Hmm, nothing in the patch notes about broken emperor fix?

It wasn't technically part of the patch, so the fix wasn't listed. That said, it appears as though Emperorship is now working after the maintenance we performed. Can you all confirm?

knew it was pre patch work TY Gina for confirming, i'll check on xbox asap

Do you expect first place on allance with the keeps to just BE Emp, or next Flip will do it?

marc9605

Hello

We have take last week all 6 Castles for blue empreror in Alkosh and i was on place 1 but i have not becomme emp because the bug.
The Patch today have not help and i have not becomme emp Achievement. I have make too a support ticket. My @ Name is
@Marc9621


I hope you can help me GinaBruno

Beardimus

marc9605 wrote: »

Hello

We have take last week all 6 blue emperor Castles in Alkosh and i was on place 1 but i have not becomme emp because the bug.
The Patch today have not help and i have not becomme emp Achievement. I have make too a support ticket. My @ Name is
@Marc9621


I hope you can help me GinaBruno

I'm guessing @marc9605 that the setting was OFF, its now ON, but will require a flip to get it.

So get back in there, and get them keeps flipped.

marc9605

im not more on place 1 now thats the problem because that i hope i becomme fast help and the Achievement emp

Mystrius_Archaion

HaroniNDeorum wrote: »

Hmmm well i want the skin from vHRC or something but i know i will never get it lol

Seriously!?
Mindless NPCs are more difficult than intelligent human players?
Only one person in the PVE group gets the achievement necessary for the achievement tied reward, since when?

There is no comparison.
Other posters have already explained how there is a complicated set of circumstances to get emperor in which only ONE player can get it at a time as well and is having to compete against skilled/intelligent difficult-to-predict human players rather than scripted simple mindless NPCs that are easy to balance so that everyone has a decent chance of beating them.

You cannot compare emperor requirements to any PVE reward requirements.
It's just a ridiculously elitist unfair system for a cosmetic reward that everyone wants and should feel is attainable, but it isn't attainable for most.

They should just remove all rewards from pvp and make separate pvp gear with pvp stats(like other games have proved works well) so that everyone can compete in pvp from level one on skill alone, such that "git gud" actually means something, and everybody can finally have fun in pvp and play pvp for the pvp so that there is more competition rather than exploiting and pve players stay out of pvp.
Then we'll all be happy, unless the pvpers are lying about why they pvp and really just want rewards they can keep from other people because "them tasty salty tears" are their reason for existing.
I don't expect anybody to admit the truth "with a straight face" if at all though. They want to keep their elitist system lording it over others, and they know their true motivations are shameful.

Mystrius_Archaion

Miswar wrote: »

There should be NO emperors at these flip flop campagins.

You want than go play some campaign where you have to earn it.

I thought they disabled that on purpose but seems like NOT the case which is ridicilious to say at least.

I want Maelmstrom guaranteed weapons, all the trials skins with 0 effort. Can the PvP players have that too? It seems I'am missing some of those.

Come on ZOS have some RESPECT towards the your whindling PvP community. No freebie emps way too many of those already at the game as it is.

In response to the bolded above:
1) Maelstrom weapons are guaranteed, from veteran maelstrom.
2) Trial skins are guaranteed from achievements that are designed to be attainable by a 12 player group, all 12 of them at the same time.
3) You PVPers actually should have an easier time getting all the PVE rewards because you have to play against the much more difficult human competition. NPCs aren't even close to the same difficulty.
I would say you're just too lazy to try against the mindless predictable NPC enemies.

It's not like you can memorize player attack patterns for every single player you could possibly meet in pvp and get emperor that way. You need a group and the right circumstances and you need to be "the top dog" clearly above everyone else to be "the one and only" emperor.

It's not like everyone in the same group gets emperor when they complete the requirements, but that would be necessary to be even remotely comparable to pve rewards.
I think that would at least go a long way toward making the emperor system better and actually encourage grouping in pvp to provide more competition for everyone, which they claim they supposedly want "a better fight" rather than exploiters and ganking and Xv1 zergs.
But...they don't actually want a decent fight in pvp; they say they do but they really just enjoy one-sided fights which is why all the exploits and flipping and doing it on temporary campaigns, which is pvp regulars almost exclusively and not pve players.

Welcome to the same thing people do everywhere....say one thing while they do the opposite.

VaranisArano

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

HaroniNDeorum wrote: »

Hmmm well i want the skin from vHRC or something but i know i will never get it lol

Seriously!?
Mindless NPCs are more difficult than intelligent human players?
Only one person in the PVE group gets the achievement necessary for the achievement tied reward, since when?

There is no comparison.
Other posters have already explained how there is a complicated set of circumstances to get emperor in which only ONE player can get it at a time as well and is having to compete against skilled/intelligent difficult-to-predict human players rather than scripted simple mindless NPCs that are easy to balance so that everyone has a decent chance of beating them.

You cannot compare emperor requirements to any PVE reward requirements.
It's just a ridiculously elitist unfair system for a cosmetic reward that everyone wants and should feel is attainable, but it isn't attainable for most.

They should just remove all rewards from pvp and make separate pvp gear with pvp stats(like other games have proved works well) so that everyone can compete in pvp from level one on skill alone, such that "git gud" actually means something, and everybody can finally have fun in pvp and play pvp for the pvp so that there is more competition rather than exploiting and pve players stay out of pvp.
Then we'll all be happy, unless the pvpers are lying about why they pvp and really just want rewards they can keep from other people because "them tasty salty tears" are their reason for existing.
I don't expect anybody to admit the truth "with a straight face" if at all though. They want to keep their elitist system lording it over others, and they know their true motivations are shameful.

What?

Okay, I'm gonna keep this focused on the emperor achievement. Emperor is supposed to be the crowning (heh) achievement of one's PVP career. Its achieved through dedication to your faction: taking and defending keeps, killing the enemy, and repairing walls. It takes the cooperation of your whole faction to get - one person can't claim 6 keeps without the help of allies. Once you have it, you are the Emperor, who defends your alliance and buffs your allies as one of the most powerful warriors on the battlefield.

Okay, that's a little idealistic, and we all know emperors who don't live up to that. Nonetheless, that's the ideal. For the emperors who actually live up to that and don't just treat it like a box to be checked off their achievement list, Emperorship is pretty incredible.

Is that elitist? Well, yeah, kinda. I'm never going to be Emperor even though I PVP regularly. I lack the skill and dedication to make a serious emp push. I also have too much respect for the people I know who made and defended their Emperorship to get it relatively cheaply on an event campaign. I also play alongside and against a lot of Former Emperors. Ive fought a lot of Emperors. You'd better believe I know which ones are actually decent PVPers. I know when I'm not in their league.

IMO, I understand why people get emperor through emp-flipping. Its not that different from the same reasons that lead people to buy carries in Vet Trials for cosmetic awards even though they can't normally complete the trial. But if you want respect from me, you'll PVP at the level of the Former Emperors I know who earned their titles through solid PVP play and supported their faction.

HaroniNDeorum

VaranisArano wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

HaroniNDeorum wrote: »

Hmmm well i want the skin from vHRC or something but i know i will never get it lol

Seriously!?
Mindless NPCs are more difficult than intelligent human players?
Only one person in the PVE group gets the achievement necessary for the achievement tied reward, since when?

There is no comparison.
Other posters have already explained how there is a complicated set of circumstances to get emperor in which only ONE player can get it at a time as well and is having to compete against skilled/intelligent difficult-to-predict human players rather than scripted simple mindless NPCs that are easy to balance so that everyone has a decent chance of beating them.

You cannot compare emperor requirements to any PVE reward requirements.
It's just a ridiculously elitist unfair system for a cosmetic reward that everyone wants and should feel is attainable, but it isn't attainable for most.

They should just remove all rewards from pvp and make separate pvp gear with pvp stats(like other games have proved works well) so that everyone can compete in pvp from level one on skill alone, such that "git gud" actually means something, and everybody can finally have fun in pvp and play pvp for the pvp so that there is more competition rather than exploiting and pve players stay out of pvp.
Then we'll all be happy, unless the pvpers are lying about why they pvp and really just want rewards they can keep from other people because "them tasty salty tears" are their reason for existing.
I don't expect anybody to admit the truth "with a straight face" if at all though. They want to keep their elitist system lording it over others, and they know their true motivations are shameful.

What?

Okay, I'm gonna keep this focused on the emperor achievement. Emperor is supposed to be the crowning (heh) achievement of one's PVP career. Its achieved through dedication to your faction: taking and defending keeps, killing the enemy, and repairing walls. It takes the cooperation of your whole faction to get - one person can't claim 6 keeps without the help of allies. Once you have it, you are the Emperor, who defends your alliance and buffs your allies as one of the most powerful warriors on the battlefield.

Okay, that's a little idealistic, and we all know emperors who don't live up to that. Nonetheless, that's the ideal. For the emperors who actually live up to that and don't just treat it like a box to be checked off their achievement list, Emperorship is pretty incredible.

Is that elitist? Well, yeah, kinda. I'm never going to be Emperor even though I PVP regularly. I lack the skill and dedication to make a serious emp push. I also have too much respect for the people I know who made and defended their Emperorship to get it relatively cheaply on an event campaign. I also play alongside and against a lot of Former Emperors. Ive fought a lot of Emperors. You'd better believe I know which ones are actually decent PVPers. I know when I'm not in their league.

IMO, I understand why people get emperor through emp-flipping. Its not that different from the same reasons that lead people to buy carries in Vet Trials for cosmetic awards even though they can't normally complete the trial. But if you want respect from me, you'll PVP at the level of the Former Emperors I know who earned their titles through solid PVP play and supported their faction.

Good words, very good explanation. My emperorship was a complete challenge to my determination and it got from me a lot of emotions.

antihero727

VaranisArano wrote: »

Mystrius_Archaion wrote: »

HaroniNDeorum wrote: »

Hmmm well i want the skin from vHRC or something but i know i will never get it lol

Seriously!?
Mindless NPCs are more difficult than intelligent human players?
Only one person in the PVE group gets the achievement necessary for the achievement tied reward, since when?

There is no comparison.
Other posters have already explained how there is a complicated set of circumstances to get emperor in which only ONE player can get it at a time as well and is having to compete against skilled/intelligent difficult-to-predict human players rather than scripted simple mindless NPCs that are easy to balance so that everyone has a decent chance of beating them.

You cannot compare emperor requirements to any PVE reward requirements.
It's just a ridiculously elitist unfair system for a cosmetic reward that everyone wants and should feel is attainable, but it isn't attainable for most.

They should just remove all rewards from pvp and make separate pvp gear with pvp stats(like other games have proved works well) so that everyone can compete in pvp from level one on skill alone, such that "git gud" actually means something, and everybody can finally have fun in pvp and play pvp for the pvp so that there is more competition rather than exploiting and pve players stay out of pvp.
Then we'll all be happy, unless the pvpers are lying about why they pvp and really just want rewards they can keep from other people because "them tasty salty tears" are their reason for existing.
I don't expect anybody to admit the truth "with a straight face" if at all though. They want to keep their elitist system lording it over others, and they know their true motivations are shameful.

What?

Okay, I'm gonna keep this focused on the emperor achievement. Emperor is supposed to be the crowning (heh) achievement of one's PVP career. Its achieved through dedication to your faction: taking and defending keeps, killing the enemy, and repairing walls. It takes the cooperation of your whole faction to get - one person can't claim 6 keeps without the help of allies. Once you have it, you are the Emperor, who defends your alliance and buffs your allies as one of the most powerful warriors on the battlefield.

Okay, that's a little idealistic, and we all know emperors who don't live up to that. Nonetheless, that's the ideal. For the emperors who actually live up to that and don't just treat it like a box to be checked off their achievement list, Emperorship is pretty incredible.

Is that elitist? Well, yeah, kinda. I'm never going to be Emperor even though I PVP regularly. I lack the skill and dedication to make a serious emp push. I also have too much respect for the people I know who made and defended their Emperorship to get it relatively cheaply on an event campaign. I also play alongside and against a lot of Former Emperors. Ive fought a lot of Emperors. You'd better believe I know which ones are actually decent PVPers. I know when I'm not in their league.

IMO, I understand why people get emperor through emp-flipping. Its not that different from the same reasons that lead people to buy carries in Vet Trials for cosmetic awards even though they can't normally complete the trial. But if you want respect from me, you'll PVP at the level of the Former Emperors I know who earned their titles through solid PVP play and supported their faction.

I get the struggle being a former emp myself. My friend fought for 2 days straight at the Chalamo. Can you really take this game seriously anymore? Between crippling server lag, cheat gate, bad community relations, flat out ignoring game breaking bugs and everything else why is a title on a dead campaign a big deal for you? The fact is the non emp thing on these campaigns was not intended, it was just another failure in a pitiful QA department. Let the PvE people have their chair and dye. It might in the end bring a few pve guilds into under populated campaigns for us to farmlag free