Is there a way i can talk to the developers directly about simple but very impactful changes?

Ultiscrub Gaming

This is not for jokes. I have tried contacting them on the forums in the past but they wont listen. I don’t have dumb ideas like take this set out of the game or this class is to powerful nerf the crap out of it. I have legitimate balance ideas i would like to talk to them about in a serious manner.

DrSweetazz

The devs dont listen to pts feedback while they're actively changing content and supposedly requesting feedback. No one knows how to contact them.

Your best bet in my opinion is to make a thread with a title complaining about a bug with a crown store cosmetic, in hopes of tricking someone at zos into reading it.

Ackwalan

Your best bet would be to use the feedback tool. If your ideas are truly worth while, you'll get the attention of a dev someday.

But you have to understand, they get tons messages everyday from tons of people that are sure their idea is the cat's meow. There is no way for them to go through it all.

Tannus15

message the class reps and let them deal with it

Ultiscrub Gaming

Ackwalan wrote: »

Your best bet would be to use the feedback tool. If your ideas are truly worth while, you'll get the attention of a dev someday.

But you have to understand, they get tons messages everyday from tons of people that are sure their idea is the cat's meow. There is no way for them to go through it all.

Its not that i think my idea is the cats meow. I know for a fact that the game would be better off with some simple changes. For instance why can you as a player have more than 1 double dot poision up at a time on you. Same thing with other things in game like vipersting, sloads, and even some cased of you having more than one befoul or other status affect. Its not like a major and a monor de buff either. I was trying to 1v x the other day but it was stoped because i had 3 double dot poisions on me and they all happened to proc the poisioned status effect. Thats not balance. I have tried feed back but my ideas allways get shruged off because it never actualy goes any where.

Ackwalan

Ultiscrub Gaming wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

Your best bet would be to use the feedback tool. If your ideas are truly worth while, you'll get the attention of a dev someday.

But you have to understand, they get tons messages everyday from tons of people that are sure their idea is the cat's meow. There is no way for them to go through it all.

Its not that i think my idea is the cats meow. I know for a fact that the game would be better off with some simple changes. For instance why can you as a player have more than 1 double dot poision up at a time on you. Same thing with other things in game like vipersting, sloads, and even some cased of you having more than one befoul or other status affect. Its not like a major and a monor de buff either. I was trying to 1v x the other day but it was stoped because i had 3 double dot poisions on me and they all happened to proc the poisioned status effect. Thats not balance. I have tried feed back but my ideas allways get shruged off because it never actualy goes any where.

O well obviously if you can't 1 v X, it is a balance issue.

Ankael07

I have a question. What makes your ideas anymore legitimate than the rest of us?

sevomd69

Is there a way i can talk to the developers directly about simple but very impactful changes?....Yeah probably...but have you ever heard of a restraining order?

Jurand80

Buy a plane ticket. Go to PAX

Glurin

Ultiscrub Gaming wrote: »

This is not for jokes. I have tried contacting them on the forums in the past but they wont listen. I don’t have dumb ideas like take this set out of the game or this class is to powerful nerf the crap out of it. I have legitimate balance ideas i would like to talk to them about in a serious manor.

Said everyone with a really bad idea since the dawn of history.

Look, maybe you've got some good ideas and maybe you don't. But you can't expect them to have a one on one sit down with everyone that claims to have legitimate balance ideas. If they did that, they wouldn't have time for anything else.

They do look at the forums. Post your ideas and they'll see them. Just because they don't respond or they don't implement them doesn't mean they aren't listening.

SHADOW2KK

Not sure how long you have played the game OP, but it sounds like you have barely played and your name is hilarious, I cannot imagine why the devs are not listening to your most astute intel on how to improve the game.

Chicharron

As a wise man said: "Why is it that the people with the most ridiculous ideas are always the ones who are most certain of them?"

SHADOW2KK

Chicharron wrote: »

As a wise man said: "Why is it that the people with the most ridiculous ideas are always the ones who are most certain of them?"

A wise man also said: "Even a fool appears wise if he keeps silent."

WeylandLabs

I am a wise man and it seems like the OP, has played games and have been in a state of power.

I like his aspirations and willingness to go above and beyond. Unfortunately ZOS doesn't work like that. You want to be heard, make a YouTube or go on Twitch. State your comments and opinions there, gain an audience and a community. Then you can have traction to be heard, until then a single post will not.

Welcome to the ESO forums ...

Beardimus

Feedback tool
Class reps
Discord
Forum threads
Twitter as most have accounts

There are plenty of ways.

Ultiscrub Gaming

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Not sure how long you have played the game OP, but it sounds like you have barely played and your name is hilarious, I cannot imagine why the devs are not listening to your most astute intel on how to improve the game.

I have played for 2 and a half years roughly. I know exactly what i am talking about. You will have to point out what you think i don’t know so i can explain it in a longer version.

Ultiscrub Gaming

Chicharron wrote: »

As a wise man said: "Why is it that the people with the most ridiculous ideas are always the ones who are most certain of them?"

Im sure of my ideas because i have bounced them off of randoms in game, my friends, and some day one players and they all agreed they were great ideas but they were all discouraged because te devs have never really cared about balance. I think they never cared because no one ever offered reasonable ideas for solutions. Witch is what i am trying to do.

Ultiscrub Gaming

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

I am a wise man and it seems like the OP, has played games and have been in a state of power.

I like his aspirations and willingness to go above and beyond. Unfortunately ZOS doesn't work like that. You want to be heard, make a YouTube or go on Twitch. State your comments and opinions there, gain an audience and a community. Then you can have traction to be heard, until then a single post will not.

Welcome to the ESO forums ...

I have a youtube, i mostly do ganking but have recently tried to learn how to 1vx. But with my skill set being from ganking i have a bit more vigilance than most due to the nature of ganking. When i see something weird and im not 100% sure what happened i save the video and i go back and watch the video. A lot of my issues i encounter come from latency issues but, when i don’t have them its fairly obvious that its the game having issues. I even have a clip at the end of one of my gank videos where i stunned someone while they were blocking with direct damage attack from stealth. And i even have experienced the old macro slice bug about 2 weeks ago. I didn’t have enough stam at the time to wind up 3 or 4 dizy swings but it was definitely the macroslice.

Ultiscrub Gaming

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

I am a wise man and it seems like the OP, has played games and have been in a state of power.

I like his aspirations and willingness to go above and beyond. Unfortunately ZOS doesn't work like that. You want to be heard, make a YouTube or go on Twitch. State your comments and opinions there, gain an audience and a community. Then you can have traction to be heard, until then a single post will not.

Welcome to the ESO forums ...

If you want i could write a whole wall of text on how to make one change. Like how to implement it. What to change. Why it needs to be changed. How to keep the changes seperate from pve and pvp. Why that spefic change needs to be seperate from pvp and pve. Buts gonna be really lengthy

geonsocal

oh man, you all show some tough love...

too funny

I gotta admit though: ultiscrub gaming is a pretty memorable monikor...

so, now that you have our attention - hit us with some of your ideas...in like fifty words or less...bullet points/highlights would be nice...no text walls please...

you got to focus...

having great ideas, and, being able to communicate them are two very different skills...

Edit: don't make the forums your rough draft...start wording up your ideas somewhere else...formatting them...perfecting them...

cut out any superfluous bull...no opinions...just the facts...

SHADOW2KK

Ultiscrub Gaming wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Not sure how long you have played the game OP, but it sounds like you have barely played and your name is hilarious, I cannot imagine why the devs are not listening to your most astute intel on how to improve the game.

I have played for 2 and a half years roughly. I know exactly what i am talking about. You will have to point out what you think i don’t know so i can explain it in a longer version.

Ok

But please feel free to explain in a longer version of how you would improve things for the devs to take notice, considering they ignore the vast majority of every pts cycle and do what they want to do regardless.

Your name is great, so thats eye catching, but you are one voice amongst a largely ignored playerbase, so it is a excercise in futility.

ZoS will always do what they want while paying lip service occassionally to the heated players for changes while putting more flashy crap on the Crown Store, if you have been here for 2 odd years, then you must have saw the writing on the wall, I been here since closed betas of 2013 and seen it all, the game gets better, but some things do not seem to change.

This game is still a baby in MMO years, some others like Eve Online have been around since 2002 I think, cannot remember.

This game will be as good as it is gonna get at some point, but it just depends on how many people are still playing for it to be worth the long long long journey, as one of the devs infamously said.

`You know you do not need to be here, right?`.

MattT1988

You get the same platform everyone else does. The forums.

Ackwalan

geonsocal wrote: »

oh man, you all show some tough love...

too funny

I gotta admit though: ultiscrub gaming is a pretty memorable monikor...

so, now that you have our attention - hit us with some of your ideas...in like fifty words or less...bullet points/highlights would be nice...no text walls please...

you got to focus...

having great ideas, and, being able to communicate them are two very different skills...

Edit: don't make the forums your rough draft...start wording up your ideas somewhere else...formatting them...perfecting them...

cut out any superfluous bull...no opinions...just the facts...

Isn't that the truth. I'm sure Worbel knows his job, but hearing him speak on ESO live, makes me want to kick puppies. The man needs to stay focused on one topic at a time and get to the point before winter sets in.

Aesthier

I apologize for that previous comment but with the thread title and OP's initial post, I just couldn't resist the bait.

So anyway yes as others have pointed out there are legitimate ways of getting your ideas to the devs eyes.

Reporting my previous statement will ensure that, at the very least, one moderator will see it and I don't mind being the sacrificial lamb in that effort.

I would be lying if I said there is anything that you have suggested so far that hasn't already been lambasted all over the forums in some way shape or form over the years, however, I do support you in the effort to bring your perspective forward for it may honestly be a perspective no one has presented or considered before.

I also want to commend you on the willingness to proffer your ideas here so that they may face the scrutiny of the populace and in the best case become refined or in the worst case lost among the pile of forgotten suggestions. Not an easy thing to face.

So please bring forth your ideas and let the community mull them over and I wish you well.

Violynne

Ultiscrub Gaming wrote: »

This is not for jokes.

Most usually aren't.

I have tried contacting them on the forums in the past but they wont listen.

One day, you may become an "ambassador", and they will... or won't... listen.

I don’t have dumb ideas like take this set out of the game or this class is to powerful nerf the crap out of it.

Yes, you do. Acceptance is the first step.

I have legitimate balance ideas i would like to talk to them about in a serious manor.

As does every other person playing this game.

Here's the reality: there's no such thing as balance.

I do not understand why people cannot accept this fact. The premise of every single MMO is rock-paper-scissors, and it's designed this way so everyone isn't playing the same class.

Each needs their weakness against others.
Each needs their strength against others.

Yet players constantly complain their characters can't kill both classes, which is just absurd.

Stop and think about why this is absurd. Here's a hint:
Paper kills rock and scissors
Rock kills paper and scissors
Scissors kills rock and paper

If you throw out Rock and I throw out Paper, who wins?

That's not balance, because the reality is: if everyone has the strength to kill everyone else, no one can kill anyone else.

This is why I don't believe you have "legitimate balance ideas". If you sway even one hair away from RPS, it's no longer legitimate.

Though, I'd be lying if I say I wasn't curious. Care to share?

DirkRavenclaw

There are over 11 Million Players over all Platforms, plus, the changes you would like to see, will some people turn away from the game, let the Devs do their thing

Ultiscrub Gaming

Violynne wrote: »

Ultiscrub Gaming wrote: »

This is not for jokes.

Most usually aren't.

I have tried contacting them on the forums in the past but they wont listen.

One day, you may become an "ambassador", and they will... or won't... listen.

I don’t have dumb ideas like take this set out of the game or this class is to powerful nerf the crap out of it.

Yes, you do. Acceptance is the first step.

I have legitimate balance ideas i would like to talk to them about in a serious manor.

As does every other person playing this game.

Here's the reality: there's no such thing as balance.

I do not understand why people cannot accept this fact. The premise of every single MMO is rock-paper-scissors, and it's designed this way so everyone isn't playing the same class.

Each needs their weakness against others.
Each needs their strength against others.

Yet players constantly complain their characters can't kill both classes, which is just absurd.

Stop and think about why this is absurd. Here's a hint:
Paper kills rock and scissors
Rock kills paper and scissors
Scissors kills rock and paper

If you throw out Rock and I throw out Paper, who wins?

That's not balance, because the reality is: if everyone has the strength to kill everyone else, no one can kill anyone else.

This is why I don't believe you have "legitimate balance ideas". If you sway even one hair away from RPS, it's no longer legitimate.

Though, I'd be lying if I say I wasn't curious. Care to share?

Yes, i would love to share. For starters i would love to implement proc sets criting in pve only, there was no need to take that away from pve players. I would also like to re work the way poisons work as well, only for pvp thou. Pve is doing just fine with the way they are. But when you are in pvp and you are trying to small scale its pretty dumb that a group of people can light attack you one time and you all of a sudden have 8 double dot poisons on you and 3 diffrent cost increase poisions. The cool down for poisions is balanced in a 1v1. But when you start fighing a group they can keep 2-3 of the same type of poision up on you at all times because there is so many of them. That should not be the case. You should get a poision imunity to a double dot poision after it wears off or your purge it. The same goes for the rest of them. But if you are affected with poision A and it wears off or you purge it the immunity you get for that should not affect poision B. You can completly negate a players abilty to play pvp solo or small scale if the larger groups run enough poisions and of different types. You should not have to deal with 30 players AND 95% up time on cost increase poison, double dot, ulti increase, or crit damage reduction. Thats not balance at all. But on the other hand the poision imunity should not be given to adds in pve.

Secondly you should not have to deal with more than one proc set damage at a time. For instance 2 players should not beable to proc their Arms of Relequen on you at the same time. The person with the first proc(A) should be hitting you. And if the other person(B) tries to proc theirs on you, it just doesn’t happen. If Person A lets his proc fall off and person B procs theirs then person B will be the only one doing damge with that set. How ever if some one has Arms of Relequen and someone else has viper sting. They should beable to stack because they are two diffent things. Its kinda like buffs in game. I can’t just throw on slime craw and get 8% from there and then use my relentless focus or bird of pray buff and get another 8% because that would be unbalanced right?

Now as for your rock paper scissors. Yes i under stand certain builds or classes should be really good verses other builds or classes. But one build should not beable to effortlessly counter every thing. If you want to talk about how i know for a fact ganking is balanced we can talk about that later but for now we will be leaving that out because thats a very long conversation.

Those are just some ideas i came up with off the top of my head. But i have brought them up to plenty of people and they have for the most part agreed with the changes to the weapon poisions and proc sets. The few that don’t agree think that the proc sets are fine and perfectly balanced so you know they are a bit off. There is no way that you can possibly think that having 5 guys light attack you and instantly loose over 80% of your health because they are all running viper sting and double dot poisons. For crying out loud it only 5 light attacks. You should not instanly die to that. I can go on but this is all ready way to long, let me know if you want more of my ideas.

Ultiscrub Gaming

geonsocal wrote: »

oh man, you all show some tough love...

too funny

I gotta admit though: ultiscrub gaming is a pretty memorable monikor...

so, now that you have our attention - hit us with some of your ideas...in like fifty words or less...bullet points/highlights would be nice...no text walls please...

you got to focus...

having great ideas, and, being able to communicate them are two very different skills...

Edit: don't make the forums your rough draft...start wording up your ideas somewhere else...formatting them...perfecting them...

cut out any superfluous bull...no opinions...just the facts...

You can’t just bring forth an idea to fix an issue in game in 50 words or less. You have to state all the rules and parameters for the issue you want to fix and some times give situations. If i just say X should not work like it does in game. Then the next question is. How should X work in game. Then you answer and they will ask why and when should X work that way. That will almost never be under 50 words. I do how ever try to keep it short as possible.

redlink1979

Writing a ticket and creating a discussion post here is a way to start. If the suggestions pointed by you are relevant for the enhance/benefict of this game then you will get noticed.

Mondini

you think developers want to be bothered by your silly ideas? Clearly never been a dev

Ultiscrub Gaming wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

Ultiscrub Gaming wrote: »

This is not for jokes.

Most usually aren't.

I have tried contacting them on the forums in the past but they wont listen.

One day, you may become an "ambassador", and they will... or won't... listen.

I don’t have dumb ideas like take this set out of the game or this class is to powerful nerf the crap out of it.

Yes, you do. Acceptance is the first step.

I have legitimate balance ideas i would like to talk to them about in a serious manor.

As does every other person playing this game.

Here's the reality: there's no such thing as balance.

I do not understand why people cannot accept this fact. The premise of every single MMO is rock-paper-scissors, and it's designed this way so everyone isn't playing the same class.

Each needs their weakness against others.
Each needs their strength against others.

Yet players constantly complain their characters can't kill both classes, which is just absurd.

Stop and think about why this is absurd. Here's a hint:
Paper kills rock and scissors
Rock kills paper and scissors
Scissors kills rock and paper

If you throw out Rock and I throw out Paper, who wins?

That's not balance, because the reality is: if everyone has the strength to kill everyone else, no one can kill anyone else.

This is why I don't believe you have "legitimate balance ideas". If you sway even one hair away from RPS, it's no longer legitimate.

Though, I'd be lying if I say I wasn't curious. Care to share?

Yes, i would love to share. For starters i would love to implement proc sets criting in pve only, there was no need to take that away from pve players. I would also like to re work the way poisons work as well, only for pvp thou. Pve is doing just fine with the way they are. But when you are in pvp and you are trying to small scale its pretty dumb that a group of people can light attack you one time and you all of a sudden have 8 double dot poisons on you and 3 diffrent cost increase poisions. The cool down for poisions is balanced in a 1v1. But when you start fighing a group they can keep 2-3 of the same type of poision up on you at all times because there is so many of them. That should not be the case. You should get a poision imunity to a double dot poision after it wears off or your purge it. The same goes for the rest of them. But if you are affected with poision A and it wears off or you purge it the immunity you get for that should not affect poision B. You can completly negate a players abilty to play pvp solo or small scale if the larger groups run enough poisions and of different types. You should not have to deal with 30 players AND 95% up time on cost increase poison, double dot, ulti increase, or crit damage reduction. Thats not balance at all. But on the other hand the poision imunity should not be given to adds in pve.

Secondly you should not have to deal with more than one proc set damage at a time. For instance 2 players should not beable to proc their Arms of Relequen on you at the same time. The person with the first proc(A) should be hitting you. And if the other person(B) tries to proc theirs on you, it just doesn’t happen. If Person A lets his proc fall off and person B procs theirs then person B will be the only one doing damge with that set. How ever if some one has Arms of Relequen and someone else has viper sting. They should beable to stack because they are two diffent things. Its kinda like buffs in game. I can’t just throw on slime craw and get 8% from there and then use my relentless focus or bird of pray buff and get another 8% because that would be unbalanced right?

Now as for your rock paper scissors. Yes i under stand certain builds or classes should be really good verses other builds or classes. But one build should not beable to effortlessly counter every thing. If you want to talk about how i know for a fact ganking is balanced we can talk about that later but for now we will be leaving that out because thats a very long conversation.

Those are just some ideas i came up with off the top of my head. But i have brought them up to plenty of people and they have for the most part agreed with the changes to the weapon poisions and proc sets. The few that don’t agree think that the proc sets are fine and perfectly balanced so you know they are a bit off. There is no way that you can possibly think that having 5 guys light attack you and instantly loose over 80% of your health because they are all running viper sting and double dot poisons. For crying out loud it only 5 light attacks. You should not instanly die to that. I can go on but this is all ready way to long, let me know if you want more of my ideas.

" I have some great ideas "
Proceeds to say things people have been saying for over a year.

Ultiscrub Gaming

Mondini wrote: »

you think developers want to be bothered by your silly ideas? Clearly never been a dev

Ultiscrub Gaming wrote: »

Violynne wrote: »

Ultiscrub Gaming wrote: »

This is not for jokes.

Most usually aren't.

I have tried contacting them on the forums in the past but they wont listen.

One day, you may become an "ambassador", and they will... or won't... listen.

I don’t have dumb ideas like take this set out of the game or this class is to powerful nerf the crap out of it.

Yes, you do. Acceptance is the first step.

I have legitimate balance ideas i would like to talk to them about in a serious manor.

As does every other person playing this game.

Here's the reality: there's no such thing as balance.

I do not understand why people cannot accept this fact. The premise of every single MMO is rock-paper-scissors, and it's designed this way so everyone isn't playing the same class.

Each needs their weakness against others.
Each needs their strength against others.

Yet players constantly complain their characters can't kill both classes, which is just absurd.

Stop and think about why this is absurd. Here's a hint:
Paper kills rock and scissors
Rock kills paper and scissors
Scissors kills rock and paper

If you throw out Rock and I throw out Paper, who wins?

That's not balance, because the reality is: if everyone has the strength to kill everyone else, no one can kill anyone else.

This is why I don't believe you have "legitimate balance ideas". If you sway even one hair away from RPS, it's no longer legitimate.

Though, I'd be lying if I say I wasn't curious. Care to share?

Yes, i would love to share. For starters i would love to implement proc sets criting in pve only, there was no need to take that away from pve players. I would also like to re work the way poisons work as well, only for pvp thou. Pve is doing just fine with the way they are. But when you are in pvp and you are trying to small scale its pretty dumb that a group of people can light attack you one time and you all of a sudden have 8 double dot poisons on you and 3 diffrent cost increase poisions. The cool down for poisions is balanced in a 1v1. But when you start fighing a group they can keep 2-3 of the same type of poision up on you at all times because there is so many of them. That should not be the case. You should get a poision imunity to a double dot poision after it wears off or your purge it. The same goes for the rest of them. But if you are affected with poision A and it wears off or you purge it the immunity you get for that should not affect poision B. You can completly negate a players abilty to play pvp solo or small scale if the larger groups run enough poisions and of different types. You should not have to deal with 30 players AND 95% up time on cost increase poison, double dot, ulti increase, or crit damage reduction. Thats not balance at all. But on the other hand the poision imunity should not be given to adds in pve.

Secondly you should not have to deal with more than one proc set damage at a time. For instance 2 players should not beable to proc their Arms of Relequen on you at the same time. The person with the first proc(A) should be hitting you. And if the other person(B) tries to proc theirs on you, it just doesn’t happen. If Person A lets his proc fall off and person B procs theirs then person B will be the only one doing damge with that set. How ever if some one has Arms of Relequen and someone else has viper sting. They should beable to stack because they are two diffent things. Its kinda like buffs in game. I can’t just throw on slime craw and get 8% from there and then use my relentless focus or bird of pray buff and get another 8% because that would be unbalanced right?

Now as for your rock paper scissors. Yes i under stand certain builds or classes should be really good verses other builds or classes. But one build should not beable to effortlessly counter every thing. If you want to talk about how i know for a fact ganking is balanced we can talk about that later but for now we will be leaving that out because thats a very long conversation.

Those are just some ideas i came up with off the top of my head. But i have brought them up to plenty of people and they have for the most part agreed with the changes to the weapon

" I have some great ideas "
Proceeds to say things people have been saying for over a year.

@Mondini do you honestly think both of those ideas are not good for balance?

efster

If you want to talk to them in a serious manor, you could try inviting them in-game into your Linchal Grand Manor. I think that one is the most serious of the manors, personally.