Why do mods close nightblade nerf threads so quickly...

Shad0wfire99

Prolly has something to do with the 5000 open "Nerf nb" threads. Call it a hunch.

usmguy1234

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

Prolly has something to do with the 5000 open "Nerf nb" threads. Call it a hunch.

That's not how you spell sorc...

Kadoin

BigBragg wrote: »

Kadoin wrote: »

Maybe because NB will be the class ZOS plans to use to market the game in the near-future? Oh wait...it's all making sense now!

But wouldn't they just hint at buffing something sparsely played? Get the new and old hooks in?

It was a joke, but honestly, it might be possible that ZOS is gearing up for PvP to play a bigger role in ESO. If we look at the classes, none of them offer much in the "fast-paced" department compared to NB. DKs and templars are slow, Sorc is boring with a fixed rotation, and wardens? Well wardens are the "we need a 5th class, but have no idea how to implement it, so let's just throw a bunch of things together nonsensically."

In this case, imagine if ESO were to create single-player BG modes. Who will represent them? A DK holding block? A templar spamming heal? A sorc shielding all the time? A warden...well being a warden? No! Those would not excite potential new players enough to come and play this new mode + sign up for ESO. Instead it would be better to have them all the victims in such an advertisement and the solo-insta-gank-god-NB be the victor standing over all of them in a 12-man deathmatch. You know it and I know it too that would be the most effective advertisement for ESO if they had single player 12 man deathmatches or other modes. I can see the CGI now! Yes, I can see it!

Veteran players will be like "lol, no tank would ever fall like that..." but players that don't know any better would be drawn by the possibility of "ruling over all," "conquering all," and lastly "being the best." They will come and ask "how can I be like that guy in the video" (no joke this happened in the game many times in the game's chat when new members came for Morrowind expansion). "Oh that class is NB..." Now whether or not they are able to actually pull that off won't matter, ZOS would have made their money and have successfully promoted the game.

Wait...what if all of this was a ploy to get someone to ask a question, then get someone to answer it, then a question is answered about that and somehow a vaiable marketing strategy discussion would emerge...Oh my god....

usmguy1234

Kadoin wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

Kadoin wrote: »

Maybe because NB will be the class ZOS plans to use to market the game in the near-future? Oh wait...it's all making sense now!

But wouldn't they just hint at buffing something sparsely played? Get the new and old hooks in?

It was a joke, but honestly, it might be possible that ZOS is gearing up for PvP to play a bigger role in ESO. If we look at the classes, none of them offer much in the "fast-paced" department compared to NB. DKs and templars are slow, Sorc is boring with a fixed rotation, and wardens? Well wardens are the "we need a 5th class, but have no idea how to implement it, so let's just throw a bunch of things together nonsensically."

In this case, imagine if ESO were to create single-player BG modes. Who will represent them? A DK holding block? A templar spamming heal? A sorc shielding all the time? A warden...well being a warden? No! Those would not excite potential new players enough to come and play this new mode + sign up for ESO. Instead it would be better to have them all the victims in such an advertisement and the solo-insta-gank-god-NB be the victor standing over all of them in a 12-man deathmatch. You know it and I know it too that would be the most effective advertisement for ESO if they had single player 12 man deathmatches or other modes. I can see the CGI now! Yes, I can see it!

Veteran players will be like "lol, no tank would ever fall like that..." but players that don't know any better would be drawn by the possibility of "ruling over all," "conquering all," and lastly "being the best." They will come and ask "how can I be like that guy in the video" (no joke this happened in the game many times in the game's chat when new members came for Morrowind expansion). "Oh that class is NB..." Now whether or not they are able to actually pull that off won't matter, ZOS would have made their money and have successfully promoted the game.

Wait...what if all of this was a ploy to get someone to ask a question, then get someone to answer it, then a question is answered about that and somehow a vaiable marketing strategy discussion would emerge...Oh my god....

One class to rule them all, one class to find them, One class to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.

Joker99

It will be hit by the nerf hammer and people will qq on the forums about the next op class as always, people just forget that groups in Homestead consisted of 1 stamplar and 7 magsorcs but that’s fine. Today is the closest we’ve been to balance, with stamina having the chance to step foot in trials.

Koolio

Nerf NB threads getting Nerfed

DoonerSeraph

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Kadoin wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

Kadoin wrote: »

Maybe because NB will be the class ZOS plans to use to market the game in the near-future? Oh wait...it's all making sense now!

But wouldn't they just hint at buffing something sparsely played? Get the new and old hooks in?

It was a joke, but honestly, it might be possible that ZOS is gearing up for PvP to play a bigger role in ESO. If we look at the classes, none of them offer much in the "fast-paced" department compared to NB. DKs and templars are slow, Sorc is boring with a fixed rotation, and wardens? Well wardens are the "we need a 5th class, but have no idea how to implement it, so let's just throw a bunch of things together nonsensically."

In this case, imagine if ESO were to create single-player BG modes. Who will represent them? A DK holding block? A templar spamming heal? A sorc shielding all the time? A warden...well being a warden? No! Those would not excite potential new players enough to come and play this new mode + sign up for ESO. Instead it would be better to have them all the victims in such an advertisement and the solo-insta-gank-god-NB be the victor standing over all of them in a 12-man deathmatch. You know it and I know it too that would be the most effective advertisement for ESO if they had single player 12 man deathmatches or other modes. I can see the CGI now! Yes, I can see it!

Veteran players will be like "lol, no tank would ever fall like that..." but players that don't know any better would be drawn by the possibility of "ruling over all," "conquering all," and lastly "being the best." They will come and ask "how can I be like that guy in the video" (no joke this happened in the game many times in the game's chat when new members came for Morrowind expansion). "Oh that class is NB..." Now whether or not they are able to actually pull that off won't matter, ZOS would have made their money and have successfully promoted the game.

Wait...what if all of this was a ploy to get someone to ask a question, then get someone to answer it, then a question is answered about that and somehow a vaiable marketing strategy discussion would emerge...Oh my god....

One class to rule them all, one class to find them, One class to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.

And in the darkness to nerf them...

usmguy1234

Joker99 wrote: »

It will be hit by the nerf hammer and people will qq on the forums about the next op class as always, people just forget that groups in Homestead consisted of 1 stamplar and 7 magsorcs but that’s fine. Today is the closest we’ve been to balance, with stamina having the chance to step foot in trials.

I think mechanics are mostly to blame for stamina being underrepresented. One thing is for sure mag nightblade has replaced mag sorc for most content.

usmguy1234

DoonerSeraph wrote: »

usmguy1234 wrote: »

Kadoin wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

Kadoin wrote: »

Maybe because NB will be the class ZOS plans to use to market the game in the near-future? Oh wait...it's all making sense now!

But wouldn't they just hint at buffing something sparsely played? Get the new and old hooks in?

It was a joke, but honestly, it might be possible that ZOS is gearing up for PvP to play a bigger role in ESO. If we look at the classes, none of them offer much in the "fast-paced" department compared to NB. DKs and templars are slow, Sorc is boring with a fixed rotation, and wardens? Well wardens are the "we need a 5th class, but have no idea how to implement it, so let's just throw a bunch of things together nonsensically."

In this case, imagine if ESO were to create single-player BG modes. Who will represent them? A DK holding block? A templar spamming heal? A sorc shielding all the time? A warden...well being a warden? No! Those would not excite potential new players enough to come and play this new mode + sign up for ESO. Instead it would be better to have them all the victims in such an advertisement and the solo-insta-gank-god-NB be the victor standing over all of them in a 12-man deathmatch. You know it and I know it too that would be the most effective advertisement for ESO if they had single player 12 man deathmatches or other modes. I can see the CGI now! Yes, I can see it!

Veteran players will be like "lol, no tank would ever fall like that..." but players that don't know any better would be drawn by the possibility of "ruling over all," "conquering all," and lastly "being the best." They will come and ask "how can I be like that guy in the video" (no joke this happened in the game many times in the game's chat when new members came for Morrowind expansion). "Oh that class is NB..." Now whether or not they are able to actually pull that off won't matter, ZOS would have made their money and have successfully promoted the game.

Wait...what if all of this was a ploy to get someone to ask a question, then get someone to answer it, then a question is answered about that and somehow a vaiable marketing strategy discussion would emerge...Oh my god....

One class to rule them all, one class to find them, One class to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.

And in the darkness to nerf them...

Ha! Good one!

themaddaedra

Lmao! First, when you say remove stealth it's not a nerf nb thread, stealth is for everyone.

Second, of course nobody sane would take that seriously. It's a shame they just can't remove/nerf everything that kills you isn't it? /S

Lichbourne90

It's because Wrobel mains NB

Mr_Walker

Maybe because they're as sick as I am about the constant complaining.

Nerf x, nerf y, nerf nerf must be nerfed.

Gut every class, we can run around slapping each other with wet lettuce leaves all day.

NyassaV

To put it simply. They are probably just tired of hearing it.

DanteYoda

Because developers do not like making their favorite overpowered classes unplayable..

max_only

Kadoin wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

Kadoin wrote: »

Maybe because NB will be the class ZOS plans to use to market the game in the near-future? Oh wait...it's all making sense now!

But wouldn't they just hint at buffing something sparsely played? Get the new and old hooks in?

It was a joke, but honestly, it might be possible that ZOS is gearing up for PvP to play a bigger role in ESO. If we look at the classes, none of them offer much in the "fast-paced" department compared to NB. DKs and templars are slow, Sorc is boring with a fixed rotation, and wardens? Well wardens are the "we need a 5th class, but have no idea how to implement it, so let's just throw a bunch of things together nonsensically."

In this case, imagine if ESO were to create single-player BG modes. Who will represent them? A DK holding block? A templar spamming heal? A sorc shielding all the time? A warden...well being a warden? No! Those would not excite potential new players enough to come and play this new mode + sign up for ESO. Instead it would be better to have them all the victims in such an advertisement and the solo-insta-gank-god-NB be the victor standing over all of them in a 12-man deathmatch. You know it and I know it too that would be the most effective advertisement for ESO if they had single player 12 man deathmatches or other modes. I can see the CGI now! Yes, I can see it!

Veteran players will be like "lol, no tank would ever fall like that..." but players that don't know any better would be drawn by the possibility of "ruling over all," "conquering all," and lastly "being the best." They will come and ask "how can I be like that guy in the video" (no joke this happened in the game many times in the game's chat when new members came for Morrowind expansion). "Oh that class is NB..." Now whether or not they are able to actually pull that off won't matter, ZOS would have made their money and have successfully promoted the game.

Wait...what if all of this was a ploy to get someone to ask a question, then get someone to answer it, then a question is answered about that and somehow a vaiable marketing strategy discussion would emerge...Oh my god....

Mind blown.

Joker99 wrote: »

It will be hit by the nerf hammer and people will qq on the forums about the next op class as always, people just forget that groups in Homestead consisted of 1 stamplar and 7 magsorcs but that’s fine. Today is the closest we’ve been to balance, with stamina having the chance to step foot in trials.

Thank you. This forum has no memory. You’d be laughed out of the zone if you wanted to bring a Nightblade back then.

People, what goes around, comes around. There will always be something that crunches the numbers better than the rest and it’s been seesaw-ing between Sorc and NB for 2 years.

usmguy1234

themaddaedra wrote: »

Lmao! First, when you say remove stealth it's not a nerf nb thread, stealth is for everyone.

Second, of course nobody sane would take that seriously. It's a shame they just can't remove/nerf everything that kills you isn't it? /S

I was not the op of the original thread. The only thing I suggested is that the thread was closed prematurely vs some of the sorc ones. Plus the ambiguous "under review" by the mod didn't bode well seeing the thread didn't have any more baiting than the typical nerf this thread.

And it's funny how fast the nightblade brigade comes in to derail a thread in hopes that it will fly under the radar or get tossed out by a mod.

templesus

I am the OP of that that thread. This is what I was told: We are reaching out to you to inform you that we have removed your thread "Remove stealth mechanic from the game (PvP only)" as the thread itself has become a ground for constant baiting and flaming

hakan

you got so paranoid, forgotting about the sorc rule over past 3 years

Cadbury

geonsocal wrote: »

Cadbury wrote: »

geonsocal wrote: »

no one will ever take you serious - until you start pinning *** up on the wall...


just sayin man, ya gotta link it all together...red string or markers seems to work best...good luck...

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i knew, i swear i always knew it...not for one moment did i ever truly believe you were really some young, hot asian chick, nor some big beefy, hairy and sweaty football player...definitely not some chocolate rabbit - cuz, well that would be crazy...

all the time i knew you wuz really pennsylvania ...

Beardimus

hakan wrote: »

you got so paranoid, forgotting about the sorc rule over past 3 years

Thats the rule to keep nerfing sorc alot especially when the NightBlade battle bus brigade pour out on the forum right? Cos that has to be a rule give current trends

usmguy1234

usmguy1234 wrote: »

themaddaedra wrote: »

Lmao! First, when you say remove stealth it's not a nerf nb thread, stealth is for everyone.

Second, of course nobody sane would take that seriously. It's a shame they just can't remove/nerf everything that kills you isn't it? /S

I was not the op of the original thread. The only thing I suggested is that the thread was closed prematurely vs some of the sorc ones. Plus the ambiguous "under review" by the mod didn't bode well seeing the thread didn't have any more baiting than the typical nerf this thread.

And it's funny how fast the nightblade brigade comes in to derail a thread in hopes that it will fly under the radar or get tossed out by a mod.

So nightblades are special snowflakes and sorcs have to be thick skinned? Sounds about right.

Knootewoot

You can find the topics back if you cast mage light

Zodiac_

Cause Roebel is a slow learner still grinding his nb ?

Jameliel

Figure out how to play your preferred class, and stop expecting to pawn every person you come across. You win some, you lose some. You kill and die to nice people sometimes, and at other times they are angry immature animals. Good sorcs will kill you if they get the upper hand, same with a good NB. Also depends how many enemies are around etc. Its strange how many people run around Cyrodiil seemingly expecting everyone to line up and duel 1 by 1.

BigBragg

Jameliel wrote: »

Figure out how to play your preferred class, and stop expecting to pawn every person you come across. You win some, you lose some. You kill and die to nice people sometimes, and at other times they are angry immature animals. Good sorcs will kill you if they get the upper hand, same with a good NB. Also depends how many enemies are around etc. Its strange how many people run around Cyrodiil seemingly expecting everyone to line up and duel 1 by 1.

I think that is part of what annoys people about Nightblades, they are the best at cherry picking fights. What some people forget, they have to be by design. They don't have the depth of defensive capacities that a DK or stamden have in their arsenals.

Micah_Bayer

BigBragg wrote: »

Jameliel wrote: »

Figure out how to play your preferred class, and stop expecting to pawn every person you come across. You win some, you lose some. You kill and die to nice people sometimes, and at other times they are angry immature animals. Good sorcs will kill you if they get the upper hand, same with a good NB. Also depends how many enemies are around etc. Its strange how many people run around Cyrodiil seemingly expecting everyone to line up and duel 1 by 1.

I think that is part of what annoys people about Nightblades, they are the best at cherry picking fights. What some people forget, they have to be by design. They don't have the depth of defensive capacities that a DK or stamden have in their arsenals.

They have up to 25% DMG reduction without even counting armour stats. What do you mean...shade and dark cloak

Ashtaris

It’s a conspiracy I tell ya! Are you manufacturing tin foil hats for the rest of your Sorc friends?

usmguy1234

Jameliel wrote: »

Figure out how to play your preferred class, and stop expecting to pawn every person you come across. You win some, you lose some. You kill and die to nice people sometimes, and at other times they are angry immature animals. Good sorcs will kill you if they get the upper hand, same with a good NB. Also depends how many enemies are around etc. Its strange how many people run around Cyrodiil seemingly expecting everyone to line up and duel 1 by 1.

I agree to most of what you say. I would argue only that nightblades have a lot of skills that allow them to control a fight. I would rather other classes gain the assets they need to control a fight on the same level as nightblade rather than nerfing nightblade. Sorcs got a good skill to control fights but instantly got reverted mainly due to nightblade qq on the forums. Rune cage was not over performing but it was bugged (even though I never had trouble breaking out of it some ppl said they did. ) Zos should have fixed the bugs associated with it first and then reevaluated it's performance but took the lazy way out as always. Now sorcs are worse off than they were 2 patches ago.

Tangent aside the reason why I started this thread is that I noticed nightblade threads get closed rather quickly compared to sorc threads. The main reason this is true is because the nightblade brigade quickly swarms in and derails the thread. If you don't believe me just watch out for the next one and see what happens.

usmguy1234

Ashtaris wrote: »

It’s a conspiracy I tell ya! Are you manufacturing tin foil hats for the rest of your Sorc friends?

Gaslighting much?

BigBragg

Micah_Bayer wrote: »

BigBragg wrote: »

Jameliel wrote: »

Figure out how to play your preferred class, and stop expecting to pawn every person you come across. You win some, you lose some. You kill and die to nice people sometimes, and at other times they are angry immature animals. Good sorcs will kill you if they get the upper hand, same with a good NB. Also depends how many enemies are around etc. Its strange how many people run around Cyrodiil seemingly expecting everyone to line up and duel 1 by 1.

I think that is part of what annoys people about Nightblades, they are the best at cherry picking fights. What some people forget, they have to be by design. They don't have the depth of defensive capacities that a DK or stamden have in their arsenals.

They have up to 25% DMG reduction without even counting armour stats. What do you mean...shade and dark cloak

Oh off the top of my head the two I mentioned have the ability to reflect or absorb projectiles, making 100% higher than 25%.