Do you use poisons in PVE?

max_only

This is about first: the rare to non-existent need for poisons in pve and
Second: the Snakeblood passive is written as if there are potions out there we can make that, were it not for the 1 negative effect, they’d be op. Either they need to come up with some potion formulations that need this passive or change it to something else useful.

ZeroXFF

No. Who? What? Why?

max_only wrote: »

change it to something else useful

A hireling, please.

Valrien

Poisons are pretty good DPS in PvE tho

e1team

Yes, all the time, don’t leave home without it

Yes. Mainly those from daily rewards to free inventory space.

max_only

Valrien wrote: »

Poisons are pretty good DPS in PvE tho

Huh, I only play tank or healer so I didn’t know about this. Can you explain?

Sylvermynx

No. Who? What? Why?

I would only use poisons on a TG or DB character - and I don't do either of those ever. So - nope. The ones that I get from crates, I change into gems if possible. Otherwise.... they get trashed.

newtinmpls

I use poisons on characters that like them; usually crown poisons (since they drop in free crates) or "slow them down" poisons which I find in dungeons.

max_only

How do poisons benefit a TG or DB play through? With the blade of woe damage I don’t know how a poison can improve on that.

Edit: do you mean thematically for rp purposes?

SquareSausage

double health poison on back bar gives a good dps boost if you know how to weave as it gives more chance to proc it

Sylvermynx

No. Who? What? Why?

max_only wrote: »

How do poisons benefit a TG or DB play through? With the blade of woe damage I don’t know how a poison can improve on that.

Edit: do you mean thematically for rp purposes?

Yeah.... RP stuff - but I don't personally go there.

Tannus15

No. Who? What? Why?

Not anymore.

Infused poison enchant on the bow is better.
Infused disease main hand, weapon damage off hand.

ArchMikem

max_only wrote: »

How do poisons benefit a TG or DB play through? With the blade of woe damage I don’t know how a poison can improve on that.

Edit: do you mean thematically for rp purposes?

Some Dark Brotherhood Contracts have an optional objective to eliminate the Target using Poison. Weapon Poisons also work if you don't use any abilities that do Poison damage.

I personally don't use Poisons in PvE cause then what's the point of Enchants? Though I have been told it's good to use Damage Health poisons on a Tank for some self healing.

Facefister

No. Who? What? Why?

Tannus15 wrote: »

Not anymore.

Infused poison enchant on the bow is better.
Infused disease main hand, weapon damage off hand.

This. Poison on Nirnhoned bow was better.
After the patch, Infused bow with poison enchant is better because of a high uptime of Hail, Caltrops and Poison Arrow, the poison enchant on the bow proccs on cooldown which also means a high uptime of "poisoned" status on the target.

General_Zeranth

No. Who? What? Why?

I only use them when required by the Black Sacraments. xD Otherwise nope, cause its a waste of mats to use them on PvE mobs.

starkerealm

I use them in vet trials on some of my stam characters. I was theory crafting a poison using tank over dinner tonight. Generally speaking, no, I don't.

ccfeeling

No. Who? What? Why?

I only slot it during skelly testing and trial score run
We could kill anything without it , just a bit slower , it's not cheap tho .

Nifty2g

Yes, all the time, don’t leave home without it

Breach or fracture poisons for healers
Think dps uses damage health poisons but now that will change

JinMori

Yes, all the time, don’t leave home without it

oh.. poisons, i read potions. Nope.

ACESsiggy

Yes, all the time, don’t leave home without it

Valrien wrote: »

Poisons are pretty good DPS in PvE tho

Right b/c we all know Magic Drain is soooooo viable.

Valrien

ACESsiggy wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

Poisons are pretty good DPS in PvE tho

Right b/c we all know Magic Drain is soooooo viable.

Yes because you would totally use PvP poisons in PvE. You totally wouldn't just use a Damage Health + Ravage Health poison for added DPS before the patch.

Totally.

Danksta

Yes, all the time, don’t leave home without it

Yes, but from what I hear I won't be after the patch drops on console. My healers still will be using them though.

Amdar_Godkiller

Yes, all the time, don’t leave home without it

Facefister wrote: »

Tannus15 wrote: »

Not anymore.

Infused poison enchant on the bow is better.
Infused disease main hand, weapon damage off hand.

This. Poison on Nirnhoned bow was better.
After the patch, Infused bow with poison enchant is better because of a high uptime of Hail, Caltrops and Poison Arrow, the poison enchant on the bow proccs on cooldown which also means a high uptime of "poisoned" status on the target.

Why disease though? It's not like it's going to defile in PVE and as far as I know, it's proc is not a DOT. Seems like flame would be better, especially if you are using the lover mundus, since it basically gives you nearly as much spell penetration as the concentration passive.

Amdar_Godkiller

Yes, all the time, don’t leave home without it

Assuming you're not in a daedric or undead dungeon, that is, where prismatic would be the way to go.

Dracan_Fontom

Only on a dummy. ;P

Minyassa

Yes, all the time, don’t leave home without it

Heck yeah. More damage is more damage, and alchemy mats are uber cheap if you pick up every one you encounter as you travel around doing PvE stuff, and even cheaper if you have a bunch of toons doing writs. Poisons make an enormous stack, too, so you can stay poisoned for a long time without much pack space.

TheUrbanWizard

What's the reason for the change away from the double poison on a nirn bow with the new patch?

sudaki_eso

Yes, all the time, don’t leave home without it

Sure, on my backbar bow i always have poison on, might change with the wolfhunter update but i have to do some testing first. Increases the dps quite a bit.

Starlock

No. Who? What? Why?

I have a character who would use poisons, but I just can't justify the ongoing expense of making them. I'm pretty hardcore when it comes to sticking to and developing my character concepts, but there are limits. Slapping two poison glyphs on her bows is sufficient for the character concept I was going for. She'll sometimes use poison against enemy combatants in Cyrodiil, but her puppeteer isn't much for PvP.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Yes, all the time, don’t leave home without it

Only back bar on stam. But yes, I use them.

Silver_Strider

Yes, all the time, don’t leave home without it

I've always loved poisons, keep them on most of my classes but my Tanks in particular seem to benefit the most from them, oddly enough.

I use Minor Vulnerability poisons and let WoE takes care of Crusher for me, which really seem to help the group out a lot and it's not like I'm missing out on anything useful on my frontbar enchant, so long as I keep WoE up, everything is pretty much fine and with the change to how enchantments work in WH, it's actually a lot easier than before since my poison was on my Destro bar and would would rarely be used unless I off tanked since I'd be mostly on my SnB bar for most of a fight, switching to apply a buff or WoE mostly located on my Destro Bar. Now, I can have a charged 1h weapon to help WoE proc status, while also keeping Vulnerability Poisons on CD much more reliably and Crusher just going off of WoE as my Destro enchant.

That's just me though.

JobooAGS

No. Who? What? Why?

Not anymore, infused with poison enchant is now better