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Game is harder for Less than Avg. PLayers???
generalmyrick
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Some say = duh!
some say = huh?
why, in the hardest content can you ignore mechanics and just dps if you are good enough?
while the less than avg player has to do the mechanics and dps, which, at times, can be a real damn headache.
some say = huh?
why, in the hardest content can you ignore mechanics and just dps if you are good enough?
while the less than avg player has to do the mechanics and dps, which, at times, can be a real damn headache.
"The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
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Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
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Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.
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Runs✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Is there any game that difficulty is the same for average players as it is for good players?Runs| Orc Nightblade • Chim-el Adabal| Dunmer Templar • M'air the Honest| Khajiit Templar
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✭✭✭✭✭I don’t understand the problem here. Yes the game is harder if you are less than average.
Was there a question or just a statement?#FiteForYourRite Bosmer = Stealth
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Icy_Waffles✭✭✭✭✭
✭He’s talking about vma spider boss lol. His dps is lower and he can’t burn her down in time before she enrages and kills him.
His point is why is this mechanic skipable if you are skilled enough to do it.2 -
generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭My point is something like high dps makes Hard content even easier. You dont have to follow difficult mechanics."The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019
Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.0 -
generalmyrick✭✭✭✭✭
✭Icy_Waffles wrote: »He’s talking about vma spider boss lol. His dps is lower and he can’t burn her down in time before she enrages and kills him.
His point is why is this mechanic skipable if you are skilled enough to do it.
Correction...i had the dps to burn the boss. Following the mechanics made it way more difficult.
Led me to a thought.. It kinda sucks if you are forced to follow mechanics which makes the game even more difficult. Like taking the harder of 2 paths to get to the same destination."The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019
Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.0 -
ArchMikem✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Not everyone can be like everyone. Three years into this game and I still only have a partial grasp of animation canceling, cause every time I do a dummy test my parses never get higher than 25k, even with my end-game Sorc.CP2,000 Master Explorer - AvA One Star General - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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Dubhliam✭✭✭✭✭
✭Icy_Waffles wrote: »He’s talking about vma spider boss lol. His dps is lower and he can’t burn her down in time before she enrages and kills him.
His point is why is this mechanic skipable if you are skilled enough to do it.
The boss only enrages if you don't follow the mechanics.
I would know, I did flawless on my HA mag DK build with really low DPS. Something in the ballpark of 13k DPS.
The OP clearly has no clue what the mechanics in that fight are, nor does he have the DPS to skip them.3 -
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✭generalmyrick wrote: »Icy_Waffles wrote: »He’s talking about vma spider boss lol. His dps is lower and he can’t burn her down in time before she enrages and kills him.
His point is why is this mechanic skipable if you are skilled enough to do it.
Correction...i had the dps to burn the boss. Following the mechanics made it way more difficult.
Led me to a thought.. It kinda sucks if you are forced to follow mechanics which makes the game even more difficult. Like taking the harder of 2 paths to get to the same destination.
Just setup the last round so that you have just one webbed pillar. A hoarvar will spawn with the boss and you can reveal the last pillar and burn down the boss while she is stunned.PC EU - Ebonheart Pact - Gray Host - Death Recap -#zergfarming -1 -
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✭Yo OP, you need to clear those shrine thingies before she enrages and it resets the rage timer. After they get webbed up again you need to clear them again if your DPS isn't high enough, and repeat till the boss is dead.1 -
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✭✭✭Life and everything in it is harder for people who are less than average. That’s why it’s called average....hello? ESO is not an exception....4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Doesn't the spider boss in vMA only enrage when the little spider daedra spawn? To stop it all you need to do is kill the little one, and she stops her enrage.
Been awhile since I've been in there, but that used to be the mechanic if I remember right.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Are you really complaining that stuff its harder because your not as good as long term players?
I mean zos has pretty much dedicated the entire game to new players now.PS4 EU DC
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Undefwun✭✭✭✭✭Sorry what? Did you really make this post? I don't understand the intent behind this post at all.
Follow mechanics to beat content.
IF you are really good and well geared you can burn fast through.
Everyone can finish it regardless and get loot....
Are you suggesting just being handed everything? Why bother playing?
My first vMA run took 18 hours over 3 weeks.
2nd 2.75 hours... 3rd 2 hours.
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✭generalmyrick wrote: »why, in the hardest content can you ignore mechanics and just dps if you are good enough?
while the less than avg player has to do the mechanics and dps, which, at times, can be a real damn headache.
The hardest content has (mostly) only one mechanic: Beat it before mechanics happen.
In mmos i played before that was callled "dps-check". With the difference tho, if u failed it, bosses would enrage and whipe the group. In eso, instead of enrages "mechanics" happen, which just prolong the suffering on the slow route to the inevitable whipe.
The upside is: u can practice bossfights on the training dummy in your home.1 -
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✭✭Prime example of this is the boss on scalecaller peak, if you have a group dps of over 100K then you can force the boss into a loop of basically going "snowstorm, sheild drop, snowstorm, sheild, storm, sheild, storm, sheiold, dead" rather than ahving to deal with her actual attacks4 -
LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Any game is harder for less than average players, that's how it works. What's your point?Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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✭Prime example of this is the boss on scalecaller peak, if you have a group dps of over 100K then you can force the boss into a loop of basically going "snowstorm, sheild drop, snowstorm, sheild, storm, sheild, storm, sheiold, dead" rather than ahving to deal with her actual attacks
@everyone = this!!!!"The red pill and its opposite, the blue pill, are a popular cultural meme, a metaphor representing the choice between:
Knowledge, freedom, uncertainty and the brutal truths of reality (red pill)
Security, happiness, beauty, and the blissful ignorance of illusion (blue pill)"
Insight to Agree to Awesome Ratio = 1:6.04:2.76 as of 1/25/2019
Compared to people that I've ignored = I am 18% more insightful, 20% less agreeable, and 88% more awesome.0 -
mikemacon✭✭✭✭✭generalmyrick wrote: »Some say = duh!
some say = huh?
why, in the hardest content can you ignore mechanics and just dps if you are good enough?
while the less than avg player has to do the mechanics and dps, which, at times, can be a real damn headache.
I am, at best, an average player. What I’ve learned is to keep trying to improve (and it is very incremental) and to embrace learning and engaging those mechanics.
The result is that I have very slowly been improving as a DPS, and I’ve gotten good at mechanics.
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✭✭✭✭✭generalmyrick wrote: »Prime example of this is the boss on scalecaller peak, if you have a group dps of over 100K then you can force the boss into a loop of basically going "snowstorm, sheild drop, snowstorm, sheild, storm, sheild, storm, sheiold, dead" rather than ahving to deal with her actual attacks
@everyone = this!!!!
Well, you can learn to dps, its not rocket science...
I mean, vSP mechanics can be a mess, but vet content in general is not designed for "below average" player (using your words). You can either accept the progression and learn, or do relaxed normal dungeons.
It's like difficulty settings in single-player games.Edited by LadyNalcarya on August 5, 2018 1:07PMDro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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