Keyboard or Controller P.C.

ConeOfSilence · August 2018

I use one of these because of shoulder problems with using the keyboard these days. Does anyone else use a controller ?

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Epona222 · August 2018

I have arthritis in my thumb joints, so am firmly kb+m, which requires very little from my thumbs

anadandy · August 2018

I do - in fact I think the same one - bluetooth xbox one.

The only real downside, in my opinion, is it locks you into the Gamepad UI which frankly, sucks. I totally feel for console people who have to have that all the time. I switch to kb/m when doing stuff like banking and guild traders.

pauli133 · August 2018

Plenty of gamepad players on PC. Some of them are quite good.

Personally, I find it too limiting, but I recognize that not everybody can manage a keyboard and mouse, for any number of reasons.

ConeOfSilence · August 2018

anadandy wrote: »

I do - in fact I think the same one - bluetooth xbox one.

The only real downside, in my opinion, is it locks you into the Gamepad UI which frankly, sucks. I totally feel for console people who have to have that all the time. I switch to kb/m when doing stuff like banking and guild traders.

Get a program called Xpadder and disable the controller in the game. You can download different profiles for the controller whatever works best for you or you can configure it yourself. They do charge a few bucks for it but though ,it wasn't too much a couple iof years back when I got it but it is worth it IMO.

Sparr0w · August 2018

I run controller since I've had and played on Xbox for years, readjusting to PC takes too long

Nestor · August 2018

I have shoulder issues too. I got a MagicHold keyboard stand that attaches to my chair. It puts the keyboard right at hand height. This removes all strain from my shoulders, elbow and wrists.

https://www.amazon.com/Magichold-Ergonomic-workstation-installed-thickness/dp/B0774WZ7X2?crid=1OH1TOT5W9AV&keywords=magichold&qid=1533305120&sprefix=magichold&sr=8-1&ref=mp_s_a_1_1

ConeOfSilence · August 2018

Sparr0w wrote: »

I run controller since I've had and played on Xbox for years, readjusting to PC takes too long

I had the opposite problem

ConeOfSilence · August 2018

I still don't know how console players can manage FPS on those things though.

TequilaFire · August 2018

I use my PS4 controller on PC and keyboard.
Same on PS4.

jlmurra2 · August 2018

I am. In fact it is the exact same one pictured at the top.

ADarklore · August 2018

TequilaFire wrote: »

I use my PS4 controller on PC and keyboard.
Same on PS4.

Agreed! I use DS4Windows to map my PS4 controller along with a couple of worthwhile addons... Advanced Disable Controller UI and Arch's Enhanced Gamepad. I use KB/Mouse for accessing inventory, skills, etc... but use the PS4 controller for movement/combat.

I used to use XPadder before but found that DS4Windows works much better and you don't have to jump through as many hoops to get it to work; the only thing XPadder does better is if you want to 'program' your controller buttons for multiple actions.

Samadhi · August 2018

ConeOfSilence wrote: »

... Does anyone else use a controller ?
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Use an old Xbox 360 wireless controller for fishing
also use a rumble add on for that same thing: http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1802-FishingVibration.html

alainjbrennanb16_ESO · August 2018

use controller pvp, keyboard and mouse pve

Runs · August 2018

I use the elite controller with the chatpad attachment. Controller is enough to play with, but need the chatpad for addon keybinds.

Artim_X · August 2018

For over a year I used a PS4 controller for ESO, but my hands started hurting after prolonged use. I couldn't imagine playing without it, since I like using the touchpad to weapon swap with my thumb. I decided to buy a Razer Raiju primarily for the ergonomic design. It is by far the best controller I have ever used. I no longer feel any pain in my hands even after a full day of running dungeons back to back and I really like the 4 extra buttons that I use in place of the typical D-pad buttons.

o5stang · August 2018

I use a Xbox elite controller(more durable) on PC with Pinnacle software. Lots of prebuilt ESO configs to download for a quickstart but also ultra cofigurable.

Elanymire · August 2018

ConeOfSilence wrote: »

I still don't know how console players can manage FPS on those things though.

I feel the same having tried it.

My brother on the other hand has no problems with it.

Unlike himI have not had 1000s of hours practice at it though. Nor do I have the will t

wenchmore420b14_ESO · August 2018

Having not played on or used a controller in decades, lol, I am a K&M type guy till a friend gave me a Logitech G13.
I was really intimidated at first by it, but now I can't even play on a regular key board. Lmao!
Paired this with a multi-button mouse so I can do TS, swap weapon & dodger roll with mouse, makes for a great set up.

Nestor wrote: »

I have shoulder issues too. I got a MagicHold keyboard stand that attaches to my chair. It puts the keyboard right at hand height. This removes all strain from my shoulders, elbow and wrists.

https://www.amazon.com/Magichold-Ergonomic-workstation-installed-thickness/dp/B0774WZ7X2?crid=1OH1TOT5W9AV&keywords=magichold&qid=1533305120&sprefix=magichold&sr=8-1&ref=mp_s_a_1_1

Thank you SO much for this!^
Have been looking for something like this! Awesome!!

Shezzarrine · August 2018

I also use an Xbox one controller, played Xbox for years while in high school and just really like the way the controllers feel. see the best players I know use controllers too, but they don't admit it because for some reason or another they got flamed for using one in the past

phileunderx2 · August 2018

I use Xbox 360 controller for my PC game play. Keyboard and mouse is more precise but I have issues with knowing where my fingers are in relation to the keys. I have struggled with this for a long time typing class in highschool was a nightmare because I could never get touch typing down at all.

So with a controller it is easier for me to press the correct button but I do still have some issues just not as many.

beebay · August 2018

I use an Xbox controller to play. I just never got the keyboard/mouse thing down for gameplay. I do however feel like the gamepad support is lacking. Even outside of laggy Cyrodil I feel like the response time is somewhat off on skill button presses. I have used both wired and wireless with the same experience. Why does the gamepad option still have to be in beta?

Oreyn_Bearclaw · August 2018

I use an Xbox controller for fishing while in BG queues or watching TV. The thought of actual end game combat with one of this makes me want to go jump in a lake. I dont know how console people do it, and can't fathom putting yourself at such a disadvantage on PC. M+KB is a vastly superior interface system.

I am a huge fan of left hand game pads like the Belkin N52, Logitech G13, or Razer Orbweaver (used them all). My back and shoulders are pretty garbage, and I am able to get my left hand in to a very comfortable position.

Runs · August 2018

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

I use an Xbox controller for fishing while in BG queues or watching TV. The thought of actual end game combat with one of this makes me want to go jump in a lake. I dont know how console people do it, and can't fathom putting yourself at such a disadvantage on PC. M+KB is a vastly superior interface system.

I am a huge fan of left hand game pads like the Belkin N52, Logitech G13, or Razer Orbweaver (used them all). My back and shoulders are pretty garbage, and I am able to get my left hand in to a very comfortable position.

It isn't a disadvantage for some people though. This is what most keyboard users don't seem to be able to understand. Some of us can't use keyboard and mouse and not out of lack of trying. I played wow for several years with keyboard and mouse, not once did it feel comfortable it was always sloppy and awkward for me. Controller feels natural and thus, I personally do better on a controller than I would on a keyboard.

TL;DR We are not all the same.

Odnoc · August 2018

I play with a controller. Started on console, so it feels more natural. Plus I don't like the mouse looking.

Lysette · August 2018

Nestor wrote: »

I have shoulder issues too. I got a MagicHold keyboard stand that attaches to my chair. It puts the keyboard right at hand height. This removes all strain from my shoulders, elbow and wrists.

https://www.amazon.com/Magichold-Ergonomic-workstation-installed-thickness/dp/B0774WZ7X2?crid=1OH1TOT5W9AV&keywords=magichold&qid=1533305120&sprefix=magichold&sr=8-1&ref=mp_s_a_1_1

Eventually just push the keyboard more towards the middle of the table - I have mine about 30cm from the edge, so I can comfortably type for hours without to have any problems with wrist or shoulder - most of my lower arm is basically comfortably resting on my desk.

UnseenCat · August 2018

I use a controller -- I started on XBox and didn't want to re-learn my ESO controls. Nowadays, I'm using a keyboard and mouse entirely too much at work, and I really need to put my hands in a completely different position by the end of the day. Gripping a controller actually helps at the end of the day!

Soriana · August 2018

I've been using a controller with xpadder software since beta; I've done almost all content in the game including vet trials. Arthritis keeps me from becoming a KB&M player.

Side note...took one look at the in game controller UI and have never turned it on again. I use KB&M for inventory, banking, etc. and am incredibly glad I don't have to look at that clunky UI.

firedrgn · August 2018

Orbweaver here. Takes a bit to get used to but cant live without now.

Mystrius_Archaion · August 2018

Runs wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

I use an Xbox controller for fishing while in BG queues or watching TV. The thought of actual end game combat with one of this makes me want to go jump in a lake. I dont know how console people do it, and can't fathom putting yourself at such a disadvantage on PC. M+KB is a vastly superior interface system.

I am a huge fan of left hand game pads like the Belkin N52, Logitech G13, or Razer Orbweaver (used them all). My back and shoulders are pretty garbage, and I am able to get my left hand in to a very comfortable position.

It isn't a disadvantage for some people though. This is what most keyboard users don't seem to be able to understand. Some of us can't use keyboard and mouse and not out of lack of trying. I played wow for several years with keyboard and mouse, not once did it feel comfortable it was always sloppy and awkward for me. Controller feels natural and thus, I personally do better on a controller than I would on a keyboard.

TL;DR We are not all the same.

I agree that gamepad is not a disadvantage, but for a different reason.
Keyboard and mouse is great for typing and clicking things on a set position user interface, but when it comes to unpredictable and variable speed movements it is far better to use a more "analog" control method like a gamepad, or more ideally VR.

I, personally, was fairly decent at WoW with keyboard and mouse and very good at City of Heroes with keyboard and mouse, even though I grew up on gamepads where I also was quite skilled. A gamepad was still far more natural for me to come back to once I started having issues with my hands and the position of a keyboard and mouse was not doing me any favors. I actually was able to game on a keyboard and mouse far longer than I should have been able to thanks to a trackball mouse, which allows for that precision and also allows just spinning the ball for speed so the motion is more analog. ESO benefits from gamepads with the analog sticks because of its required aiming in action combat.

Gamepads are just better for gaming because they were designed for it. Keyboards and mice were designed for desktop screens and typing and not even ergonomically for any normal keyboard; they're all based on old typewriters which were about cramming as many letters and functions in as small a space as possible, forgetting ergonomics and usability. Gamepads have buttons positioned based on the natural resting position of a person's hands, so they are as easy as possible to activate commands as quickly as possible without pain for the most part.

VR is the way of the future, which I look forward to because aiming by looking with my head and eyes is the most natural and accurate aiming mechanism there is as well as gamepads still being used for quick easy command access.
I'm just using gamepads until that becomes more common and I can afford it.

Alkapton · August 2018

I am PC with xbox elite controller. You need third party to make the paddles useful. I use reWASD, which makes the controller very configurable, you can even use the little 1, 2 switch in the middle switch you between two completely different button, thumb stick, paddle settings.

I am also the first to say the elite controller is not worth the money and the hand grips will expand and fall off within a year and they seem not to be covered by guarantee - be warned. But still the best game pad I've used.