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Nerf Ele Drain

Ragnaroek93
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It's op.
  • Ragnaroek93
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    600 magreg, instacast, no costs, major fracture. And they nerfed Incap because it was overloaded. Devs???
  • Sparr0w
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    Restores mag only when you do damage so that's fine.

    99% of skills are insta cast.

    Think being free is fine, only really used for the regen on longer fights.

    Provided by most other stuff (e.g. tanks, stamblades etc...)

    Guess they could change minor magsteal to only proc on light/heavy attacks but I wouldn't add a cost or cast time to this skill.
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  • Joy_Division
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    600 magreg, instacast, no costs, major fracture. And they nerfed Incap because it was overloaded. Devs???

    If you want to take away one of the other skills you'd normally use to put those purgable debuffs on me and be skillful enough to damage me every second to get that regen, by all means you are welcome to do so. I don't have a problem at all when a destro staff user hits me with this skill.
  • Runefang
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    Better idea buff siphon.

    This. Although ultimately only one of the two skills will be used, its hard to make them both situationally good.
  • AlienatedGoat
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    No.

    Ele is almost exclusively used in PvE, and its usage is balanced. There is no need for it to be nerfed.

    Seriously, what is with all these ignorant "nerf X" threads?
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  • Drdeath20
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    Its a world skill available to everyone and yet in most dungeon groups its not used unless its a coordinated group.
  • Aedaryl
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    600 magreg, instacast, no costs, major fracture. And they nerfed Incap because it was overloaded. Devs???

    The skill is totaly fine, you should read better what's incap does.
  • Massacor
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    Well, the spell itself is overpowering as a debuff. No other debuff have a so huge impact in a fight, it permits low regen PVP build with high damage to be effective in long time fight and increase the already high penetration from magicka class. And for people complaining about incap, it's an ult, not a free-to-use-without-loosing-burst-debuff. But still incap too strong, the ult cost increase is nice (if they didn't change it)

    I'm agree with PVE players, we shouldn't nerf the effect (way too much needed in PVE), but change the regen proc on light/heavy attack only against players, so defensive players in PVP won't profit from it (dots), or reduce the regen when use against player and so on...
    Edited by Massacor on July 31, 2018 8:30AM
  • Silver_Strider
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    Runefang wrote: »
    Better idea buff siphon.

    This. Although ultimately only one of the two skills will be used, its hard to make them both situationally good.

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    1. Siphon Spirit should be changed to include Minor Staminasteal but loses out on the Minor Lifesteal
    2. Quick Siphon should provide Minor Heroism as well as Minor Lifesteal

    With these changes, all 3 become situational but useful. E-Drain is free, provides Major Breech and Minor Magicka Steal but in a 4 man group, it might be more beneficial to run Siphon Spirit since it restores resources to everyone but in trials when 1 Healer is running E-Drain or Siphon Spirit, the other Healer can provide Quick Siphon for Minor Heroism buff.
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  • ak_pvp
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    Yeah tbh, I don't find it OP, but Its kind of a skilless skill. Slap a cost on it, then it'll be mainly for healers who can take sacrifice of their own mag and multiply it over a group.
    600 magreg, instacast, no costs, major fracture. And they nerfed Incap because it was overloaded. Devs???

    If you want to take away one of the other skills you'd normally use to put those purgable debuffs on me and be skillful enough to damage me every second to get that regen, by all means you are welcome to do so. I don't have a problem at all when a destro staff user hits me with this skill.

    Its purgable, but not to like 90% of players. And easy. Ele drain+entropy and set.
    Edited by ak_pvp on July 31, 2018 10:13AM
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  • Marabornwingrion
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    No thanks, we've already got nerfed sustain in Morrowind.
  • IZZEFlameLash
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    No more nerfing sustain. I for one do not want to heavy attack all day long after 3 skills. But I think OP was trollposting as he seems to be a Stamblade main.
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  • John_Falstaff
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    As mostly stamina DK, may I shyly vote to instead do the opposite and buff stamina sustain by giving it something like that? Like, peace on Earth. :)
  • Ragnaroek93
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    It's a PvP thread btw. Let Siphon give penetration and magreg but give it a cast time and take away the pen from Ele Drain.
  • Feanor
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    Oh yeah. Please nerf the only source of Major Breach for most magicka chars. If you compare that to Major Fracture, that is tacked onto stamina class spammables...
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    Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 41 - Stormproof (PC EU)
    Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)

    Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial Necromancer (lvl 8)
    Fearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)
    Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)
    Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDK
    Valirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBlade
    Turuna - AD Altmer magBlade
    Kheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDK
    Kibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - Stormproof
    Yavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWarden
    Azog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWarden
    Vidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDK
    Marquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - Stormproof
    Rawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWarden
    Tu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar

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  • Ragnaroek93
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    Feanor wrote: »
    Oh yeah. Please nerf the only source of Major Breach for most magicka chars. If you compare that to Major Fracture, that is tacked onto stamina class spammables...

    Stam doesn't have a skill which gives 600 regen for free tho.
    Edited by Ragnaroek93 on July 31, 2018 11:33AM
  • John_Falstaff
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    @Feanor , just out of curiosity - which are those spammables? I only know it's present on nighblade, but not all stamina characters are nightblades. DK has AoE dot with it, but the dot itself isn't awfully strong and doesn't always make it into rotations.
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    @Feanor , just out of curiosity - which are those spammables? I only know it's present on nighblade, but not all stamina characters are nightblades. DK has AoE dot with it, but the dot itself isn't awfully strong and doesn't always make it into rotations.

    NB - Surprise Attack, DK - Noxius Breath, Warden - Subterranean Assault, Templar - Power of the Light (minor fracture though).
    Main characters:
    Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 41 - Stormproof (PC EU)
    Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)

    Other characters:
    Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial Necromancer (lvl 8)
    Fearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)
    Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)
    Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDK
    Valirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBlade
    Turuna - AD Altmer magBlade
    Kheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDK
    Kibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - Stormproof
    Yavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWarden
    Azog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWarden
    Vidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDK
    Marquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - Stormproof
    Rawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWarden
    Tu'waccah - AD Redguard Stamplar

    All chars 50 @ CP 1000+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on Bahlokdaan PC EU.
  • Aedaryl
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    Feanor wrote: »
    @Feanor , just out of curiosity - which are those spammables? I only know it's present on nighblade, but not all stamina characters are nightblades. DK has AoE dot with it, but the dot itself isn't awfully strong and doesn't always make it into rotations.

    NB - Surprise Attack, DK - Noxius Breath, Warden - Subterranean Assault, Templar - Power of the Light (minor fracture though).

    Major fracture can also come from ransack as a spammable
    Edited by Aedaryl on July 31, 2018 12:03PM
  • John_Falstaff
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    @Feanor - aha, thank you; I've looked up, not all spammables, but all sounds legit. Granted, NB's Mark Target gives Major Breach too, and Warden's Subterranean Assault can be morphed into Deep Fissure for same effect, or so it seems.

    But generally, in most group content, it would seem that the tank's Pierce Armor would cover all need for both Breach and Fracture. Not making it an argument for nerfing Drain, of course.
  • Doctordarkspawn
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    NERFING ANYTHING FOR PVP IS A NET LOSS FOR THE GAME.
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