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Why do so many people play PvP in ESO?
WarMasterCyp
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Why do people play PvP in ESO or in MMOs in general? The only game I have which focuses on PvP is probably overwatch lol
*Edit: I am not saying PvP is bad or you have to choose between PvP and PvE! Some people think I am trying to hate on this but I'm just curious why people play PvP in ESO or MMOs in general*
Edited by WarMasterCyp on July 28, 2018 10:44PM *Edit: I am not saying PvP is bad or you have to choose between PvP and PvE! Some people think I am trying to hate on this but I'm just curious why people play PvP in ESO or MMOs in general*
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Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Because PVE gets boring and predictable. And here in eso, the siege warfare and keep assaults can be very cool when they workBeware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!25 -
WarMasterCyp✭✭✭Stovahkiin wrote: »Because PVE gets boring and predictable. And here in eso, the siege warfare and keep assaults can be very cool when they work
Key phrase here "when they work" lol14 -
Judas Helviaryn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭WarMasterCyp wrote: »
You have to understand, you're taking the same stance and mindset as the people who do consider you a filthy casual. Both sides refuse to accept that people are individuals and can have different interests. That's what this entire thread is predicated on, right? Asking why people enjoy something you don't?15 -
Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭PvE can be challenging. Not taking anything away from that. But even at its hardest, it's a script...once you learn "do x at y time", you got a great shot at beating the content.
PvP is anything goes...expect the unexpected and react to it. It sharpens your hand/eye coordination and decision making.
You win some and you lose some. I've long believed that's why alot of PvE players avoid the PvP landscape. Because in any given fight, you can do all the right things and still lose. It can be a tough lesson to swallow.
Personally, I tend to enjoy PvP more, but I like PvE just as well. Never understood why it has to be a "either/or" choice.30 -
WarMasterCyp✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »
You have to understand, you're taking the same stance and mindset as the people who do consider you a filthy casual. Both sides refuse to accept that people are individuals and can have different interests. That's what this entire thread is predicated on, right? Asking why people enjoy something you don't?
I think you misunderstand me, probably you did not understand the joke. I do not mean anything to offend anyone. I am just asking why people play PvP in ESO or in any MMO..
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WarMasterCyp✭✭✭PvE can be challenging. Not taking anything away from that. But even at its hardest, it's a script...once you learn "do x at y time", you got a great shot at beating the content.
PvP is anything goes...expect the unexpected and react to it. It sharpens your hand/eye coordination and decision making.
You win some and you lose some. I've long believed that's why alot of PvE players avoid the PvP landscape. Because in any given fight, you can do all the right things and still lose. It can be a tough lesson to swallow.
Personally, I tend to enjoy PvP more, but I like PvE just as well. Never understood why it has to be a "either/or" choice.
I never said you had to choose... why are so people assuming I am against PvP
maybe my post isn't clear but thanks for sharing 1 -
Kiralyn2000✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭WarMasterCyp wrote: »Why do people play PvP in ESO or in MMOs in general? The only game I have which focuses on PvP is probably overwatch lol
I do wonder sometimes, why people care so much about the unbalanced pvp minigames duct-taped to the side of the mostly-PvE MMOs that I've played over the years, when they could be playing a properly-developed and balanced "real" PvP game.
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Kel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭WarMasterCyp wrote: »PvE can be challenging. Not taking anything away from that. But even at its hardest, it's a script...once you learn "do x at y time", you got a great shot at beating the content.
PvP is anything goes...expect the unexpected and react to it. It sharpens your hand/eye coordination and decision making.
You win some and you lose some. I've long believed that's why alot of PvE players avoid the PvP landscape. Because in any given fight, you can do all the right things and still lose. It can be a tough lesson to swallow.
Personally, I tend to enjoy PvP more, but I like PvE just as well. Never understood why it has to be a "either/or" choice.
I never said you had to choose... why are so people assuming I am against PvP maybe my post isn't clear but thanks for sharing
Not meaning you per se, just a general thing I constantly see in any gaming forum.
There's always threads about PvP vs. PvE. Wasn't saying you are personally assuming anything. Just remarking on a constant trend where this topic is concerned.Edited by Kel on July 28, 2018 10:49PM1 -
WarMasterCyp✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »Why do people play PvP in ESO or in MMOs in general? The only game I have which focuses on PvP is probably overwatch lol
I do wonder sometimes, why people care so much about the unbalanced pvp minigames duct-taped to the side of the mostly-PvE MMOs that I've played over the years, when they could be playing a properly-developed and balanced "real" PvP game.
Yeah when I think PvP my mind doesn't go to MMOs to be honest.6 -
bloodthirstyvampire✭✭✭✭✭
✭Unpredictable sense of paranoia especially solo pvp, you just Can't tell if your going to die, with pve its just light attack light attack light attack light attack light attack its dead.3 -
casparian✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Because PVP in this game is among the most mechanically interesting, complex, and challenging combat I've experienced in a video game. I can't say the same about PVE.7-day PVP campaign regular 2016-2019, Flawless Conqueror. MagDK/stamplar/stamwarden/mageblade. Requiem, Legend, Knights of Daggerfall. Currently retired from the wars; waiting on performance improvements.9 -
Judas Helviaryn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭WarMasterCyp wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »
You have to understand, you're taking the same stance and mindset as the people who do consider you a filthy casual. Both sides refuse to accept that people are individuals and can have different interests. That's what this entire thread is predicated on, right? Asking why people enjoy something you don't?
I think you misunderstand me, probably you did not understand the joke. I do not mean anything to offend anyone. I am just asking why people play PvP in ESO or in any MMO..
There was no offense taken or meant. I was just suggesting that a little self reflection might make people realize the ones they don't understand are more similar to them than they realize. Two sides of the same coin.
People's interests are diverse.1 -
WarMasterCyp✭✭✭Judas Helviaryn wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »Judas Helviaryn wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »
You have to understand, you're taking the same stance and mindset as the people who do consider you a filthy casual. Both sides refuse to accept that people are individuals and can have different interests. That's what this entire thread is predicated on, right? Asking why people enjoy something you don't?
I think you misunderstand me, probably you did not understand the joke. I do not mean anything to offend anyone. I am just asking why people play PvP in ESO or in any MMO..
There was no offense taken or meant. I was just suggesting that a little self reflection might make people realize the ones they don't understand are more similar to them than they realize. Two sides of the same coin.
People's interests are diverse.
No problem, I understood
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Because I find running around Cyrodiil with a bunch of friends playing a war game with large scale combat and strategy to be a ton of fun.
This surprised me a lot, because I started this game as a Skyrim player who never wanted to do any form of group content or PVP at all.11 -
Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭WarMasterCyp wrote: »
Reward? There doesn’t need to be a reward in order to enjoy it. The gameplay is fun and more challenging than pve. And on the flip side, the vast majority of rewards in PVE are worthlessEdited by Stovahkiin on July 28, 2018 10:52PMBeware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!5 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I grow weary of scripted encounters and predictable mechanics.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche12 -
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✭✭✭✭PvE puts me to sleep. It's just too boring. If I want to play PvE I'll hop on Monster Hunter.5 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Kiralyn2000 wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »Why do people play PvP in ESO or in MMOs in general? The only game I have which focuses on PvP is probably overwatch lol
I do wonder sometimes, why people care so much about the unbalanced pvp minigames duct-taped to the side of the mostly-PvE MMOs that I've played over the years, when they could be playing a properly-developed and balanced "real" PvP game.
Did shooters for years, got way too good at it, insanely boring
Games like Overwatch are just fancy shooters.
Very few "real" PvP games allow you to be creative with your character. In ESO there's 1000's of combinations of sets. There's themes, and there's progression.
My character starts weak and I make him stronger. I hate starting and staying at the same level as everyone else.
Example: COD you can memorize exactly where to throw a nade immediately to kill people. That's not skill. That's boring AF. Oh cross hair on head, pull trigger repeat ad nauseum.
I can't think of any game on console that has such control over my character's stats etc and PvP13 -
Peekachu99✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭PVE is really bad in this game once you’ve done the most challenging stuff a few times. PVP is the only thing that offers any difficulty after a while—as cheese as it can be. There’s rarely anything predictable about what you’ll face (except for Sload’s atm).4 -
DoonerSeraph✭✭✭✭For me? Because I loved so much the Age of Empires, and this game is like playing Age, but as the lowly soldier :P
I know it sounds stupid but medieval-like battles of big proportions really appeal to me 3 -
DanteYoda✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Because killing mobs in PvE is boring for some people.
Weird i don't find it boring at all.. What i find boring is rinse repeat gameplay, like die, respawn, run back, die! such as PvP..Waffennacht wrote: »Kiralyn2000 wrote: »WarMasterCyp wrote: »Why do people play PvP in ESO or in MMOs in general? The only game I have which focuses on PvP is probably overwatch lol
I do wonder sometimes, why people care so much about the unbalanced pvp minigames duct-taped to the side of the mostly-PvE MMOs that I've played over the years, when they could be playing a properly-developed and balanced "real" PvP game.
Did shooters for years, got way too good at it, insanely boring
Games like Overwatch are just fancy shooters.
Very few "real" PvP games allow you to be creative with your character. In ESO there's 1000's of combinations of sets. There's themes, and there's progression.
My character starts weak and I make him stronger. I hate starting and staying at the same level as everyone else.
Example: COD you can memorize exactly where to throw a nade immediately to kill people. That's not skill. That's boring AF. Oh cross hair on head, pull trigger repeat ad nauseum.
I can't think of any game on console that has such control over my character's stats etc and PvP
The difference is everyone has the same setup same stuff same skillsets so its balanced which people like more. The only thing left is playerskill so everything is almost balanced in many of those games, mmorpgs is just a mess pvp wise..
So saying its all muscle memory isn't totally accurate.. Its at least a lot more balanced gameplay wise than this is.. Also mmorpg pvp is really just aimed at gankers and zergs.. Both of which is incredibly boring after say one hour.Edited by DanteYoda on July 29, 2018 12:22AM3 -
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Well that's kinda dependent on like a lot.
Example, a BG match where you die like once is amazingly fun1 -
Jameliel✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sieging is awesome during the rare occasions you don't get disconnected, skills will fire off, and the lag doesn't spike up to 500-999 ping.5 -
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✭I don't find Cyrodiil fun at all, but I like playing BG. I don't have to travel endless miles to get to a keep or getting ganked by a NB half way through on my very very very very long cross country journey.1
