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barbarian340
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i know i probably wont get a lot of support for this, but there needs to be more and better options when it comes to black women's hairstyles...why isnt there a Zazie Beetz style afro (Domino from deadpool 2), or a ponytail puff? there is a plethora of black women hairstyles that can be used and it is very unfortunate that this hasn't been expanded upon...just my opinion
  • Ragebull
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    They may have feared some might see them and be offended thinking they're "black women hair stereotypes". Idk, I agree with you, just trying to think about why they didn't add em from the start
  • SickleCider
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    Yes, more options for POC. I wholeheartedly support this.
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  • Druid40
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    I second this motion.
  • Nestor
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    I am all for more hairstyles, for any race, I dont care, just give me more choices for my characters.

    I think Braids would be cool. Even some Dreadlocks, although I think I did see some Dreads in the hair style pack, more would be good.

    Finally some different styles or lengths of natural nappy type hair would be good too.

    Edited by Nestor on July 26, 2018 5:24PM
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  • Doctordarkspawn
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    ...How on earth is a hairstyle race-centric?

    As for Afro's....well I think there -is- an afro, but I dun play Redguard so I'm not sure. Furthermore, the Redguards in this game are much more affrican moors with a strong islamic/middle-eastern vibe and influence so you're more likely to see styles from that general culture.
  • DenMoria
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    i know i probably wont get a lot of support for this, but there needs to be more and better options when it comes to black women's hairstyles...why isnt there a Zazie Beetz style afro (Domino from deadpool 2), or a ponytail puff? there is a plethora of black women hairstyles that can be used and it is very unfortunate that this hasn't been expanded upon...just my opinion

    Do you have any knowledge of African cultures? What you're describing are modern hairstyles. ESO isn't set in 1965, 75, 85, 95, or the 2000s. Why would they have them?
  • moonio
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    why isnt there a Zazie Beetz style afro

    Because that hairstyle is mostly only ever seen in media promotions, advertising etc.
    You would be hard pressed to find anyone sporting it in normal day to day life...

    The question should be, why is the media obsessed with showing images of black women with afro hairstyles.


  • max_only
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    Yes please! We also need the return of the bald fade for men. Also I saw a 2h Dragonknight Redguard running at me yesterday and I thought I was going to die, she was really beautiful, she even had tattoos on her dark skin and still looked fierce honey! I wanted to compliment her but eh, you never know the reaction when you say nice things to people using female avatars. Anywho, yes to the suggestion.
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  • TheShadowScout
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    Would make a good batch of choices for both orc and redguard girls! Even the occasional bosmer! Just sayin...
    I mean:
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    and
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    and
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    or
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    or
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    or
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    ...
    I mean, who would not want to meet characters like those in Tamriel?? ;)

    And while we're at it...
    ...how about:
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    or
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    or
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    or
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    or
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    or
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    ...and for classical reasons:
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    ;):)
    Edited by TheShadowScout on July 26, 2018 6:35PM
  • Sibenice
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    I'd say a big part of this is that they struggle with making any hair that doesn't just stick right to your character. Most of the ones that are even just a bit poofy tend to look very stringy or just like solid clay shaped like hair. We also don't have long hair. Everything goes just below the shoulders at most.
  • SickleCider
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    To all the people saying ethnic hair isn't medieval enough (paraphrasing): oof.

    To the notion that Arab people never have corkscrew hair: oof.

    With all due respect, please don't.
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    I would assume the redguards or khajiits culture would allow some more diversity. Well personally I am all for more haistyles. It's important for emote battles on pride rock in rawkla not to look same as the competitor. Half the battle is who looks bests :p
    Edited by Tasear on July 26, 2018 6:18PM
  • max_only
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    People in this thread that don’t know Reubens and a lot of famous artists from the past painted Moors and they had a lot of style and flair <- google dot com
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    This one she has an apprentice who would very much like a catfro yes.

    Here is to big beautiful manes!

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  • rumple9
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    Crown store weaves ? Whatever next !
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    Anyway, Zos knows but doesn’t know. They gave an A plus effort with this hairstyle and it went... unappreciated to say the least

    https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/wavy-triple-braided-updo/

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  • Kuramas9tails
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    Yes. More Fro-hair please.
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    • Ragged_Claw
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      More variety is always welcome. After four years, I think the base-game styles could do with a refresh as well. Some of them don't look great in-game, and don't even get me started on the plastic-looking barbie-like clip-fest that is the 'barbaric' hairdo. Can't believe I bought that *fumes*. But, back on-topic, I'm loving the examples posted. Big-hair is the best hair.
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    • barbarian340
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      DenMoria wrote: »
      i know i probably wont get a lot of support for this, but there needs to be more and better options when it comes to black women's hairstyles...why isnt there a Zazie Beetz style afro (Domino from deadpool 2), or a ponytail puff? there is a plethora of black women hairstyles that can be used and it is very unfortunate that this hasn't been expanded upon...just my opinion

      Do you have any knowledge of African cultures? What you're describing are modern hairstyles. ESO isn't set in 1965, 75, 85, 95, or the 2000s. Why would they have them?

      a ponytail is modern? interesting...
    • barbarian340
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      moonio wrote: »
      why isnt there a Zazie Beetz style afro

      Because that hairstyle is mostly only ever seen in media promotions, advertising etc.
      You would be hard pressed to find anyone sporting it in normal day to day life...

      The question should be, why is the media obsessed with showing images of black women with afro hairstyles.


      im not sure where u are from...but where i live, TONS of women here wear their hair out like that...my wife does it ALL the time...so i guess it's just different exposures...but i assure u it isn't a media conspiracy...black women do actually wear their hair like that
    • Lyss1991
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      YES! I was making a redguard toon the other day and thought to myself “I wish they had more ethnic hairstyles” the dreads they do have look like clumps, And the braids dont look very feminine. The mini fro they have doesnt either. Im all for this, Bring on the natural looks!!
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    • Minyassa
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      I have a strong suspicion that they've probably canned some ethnic hairstyles for fear of starting a big mess about cultural appropriation since their humanoid hairstyles work across the board for any humanoid race. I doubt anyone would really even blink at that, but people who are running entertainment businesses tend to either be completely insensitive or way too sensitive and we know that ZOS has an eye on being socially progressive. So they are probably chickening out for fear of some kind of backlash.
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      moonio wrote: »
      why isnt there a Zazie Beetz style afro

      Because that hairstyle is mostly only ever seen in media promotions, advertising etc.
      You would be hard pressed to find anyone sporting it in normal day to day life...

      The question should be, why is the media obsessed with showing images of black women with afro hairstyles.


      this doesn't make sense to me at all. come to my neighborhood, we can walk a quarter-mile on any sunny day and be "easy pressed" to see these extremely common styles, maybe a dozen times in such a short walk. there are still people who happily prefer to use relaxers, and i'm glad if it makes them feel slick, but i'm also glad so many more people are seeing the beauty of natural hair these days. having to deal with so many more crushes is just my own problem :)

      but yeah i want to vote for more kinked and natural hairstyles in the game too. i've seen some combed-out but close-cut hairstyles on Redguard men NPCs. just working on the visuals of the edges a little bit would open so many more options for ZoS's stylists.
    • BKTHNDR
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      I agree with this, as well. More hairstyles for PoC couldn't hurt and give everyone more options for unique looks.
    • LadyNalcarya
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      Yes, please! Would be nice to have something like this or this.
      Also I would really like to be able to use some of male haircuts on female chars. That Imperial haircut looks very good on Zeira, for example! :)
      Edited by LadyNalcarya on July 27, 2018 1:35PM
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    • jainiadral
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      Sounds like an awesome idea :)
    • Kalik_Gold
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      Love this as I have locs in real life. There are plenty Loc styles for men. There was a braided natural hairstyle for women, but it was crown store only.

      I only saw 1 person using it so far on ps4/na and actually stopped and gave her a compliment. (Hope it was a her, it was a female character)


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      Can't believe someone in this thread asked how is a hairstyle "race centric", wow. That's why most of my toons are Redguards... representation.


      I also wouldn't mind this (not sure if released yet)

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      Edited by Kalik_Gold on July 27, 2018 3:38PM
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      The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

      The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

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      Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

      And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

      After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

      After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

      Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

      Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

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    • Preyfar
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      max_only wrote: »
      Anyway, Zos knows but doesn’t know. They gave an A plus effort with this hairstyle and it went... unappreciated to say the least

      https://eso.mmo-fashion.com/wavy-triple-braided-updo/

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      I think the problem with this is that big hair styles in the game don't quite look like hair. These look like meshes that sit on top of player's heads and don't feel natural. This one kind of works but still looks slightly off.
    • ghastley
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      Longer styles always have the problem of not looking right if they don't move. It's the cape issue again. I'd still like more choices of short styles, especially an "unstyled" loose look. A warrior needs to look they they were just in a fight, not a hairdressing salon.
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      I would love to see more natural hairstyles, and more curls in general--there aren't many options currently, but the examples posted above by @TheShadowScout are awesome!
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