Double the key for vet dlc pledge?

LeagueTroll

Every one know dlc dungeon are harder. That’s why most skip them. What about increase the reward then, so ppl actually want to do them more. It was 2 purple key on hm b4 1 tam while other dungeons hm only 1 purple key. Plz provide some reasons in comments.

rumple9

Why does anyone need keys these days? It would make more sense to double monster helm drop

zaria

Yes, more key

Don't see why not, an vet dlc is way harder than CoA1 HM,

Sparr0w

Yes, more key

Before the 'one tamriel' update dlc dungeons used to reward double the keys for vet hardmode, now they reward the same amount. Should DLC pledges again reward more keys than other dungeons to entice people to do them, rather than just skip as many people currently do since they are harder?

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Merlin13KAGL

No, don’t need

Keys aren't hard to come by. If people are avoiding DLC dungeons, extra keys aren't going to change that.

White wabbit

No, don’t need

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Keys aren't hard to come by. If people are avoiding DLC dungeons, extra keys aren't going to change that.

^^^^^ what he said

Sparr0w

Yes, more key

Yeah save me some transmute crystals

Samadhi

Yes, more key

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Keys aren't hard to come by. If people are avoiding DLC dungeons, extra keys aren't going to change that.

What do you feel would serve as a better incentive?

PouletRico

No, don’t need

Rewards are fine.
Maybe increase the 'Random Veteran Dungeon' daily reward a bit, to reduce queue time for everyone.

BUT, I'd like to see more chests !
Gilirion the Redbeard chest have so much different sets in it, you have so little chance to actually get the one you want... So in the end, you need to farm keys for days/weeks (the light/medium/heavy are killing me, getting the good set, but not the good type).

Liquidfist

No, don’t need

I’d do them for more guaranteed transmute crystals.

AlnilamE

No, don’t need

I just started doing the DLC dungeons and am learning the mechanics in normal, but they don't seem that much harder than the previous vet dungeons.

Sparr0w wrote: »

LordSkyKnight wrote: »

Can someone translate this please? I don’t speak derp.

Before the 'one tamriel' update dlc dungeons used to reward double the keys for vet hardmode, now they reward the same amount. Should DLC pledges again reward more keys than other dungeons to entice people to do them, rather than just skip as many people currently do since they are harder?

Actually, before One Tamriel, you would get a bronze key for normal pledges if you didn't kill all bosses. A silver key if you did. A silver key for normal mode vet and a gold key for Hard Mode vet.

Sparr0w

Yes, more key

AlnilamE wrote: »

I just started doing the DLC dungeons and am learning the mechanics in normal, but they don't seem that much harder than the previous vet dungeons.

Sparr0w wrote: »

LordSkyKnight wrote: »

Can someone translate this please? I don’t speak derp.

Before the 'one tamriel' update dlc dungeons used to reward double the keys for vet hardmode, now they reward the same amount. Should DLC pledges again reward more keys than other dungeons to entice people to do them, rather than just skip as many people currently do since they are harder?

Actually, before One Tamriel, you would get a bronze key for normal pledges if you didn't kill all bosses. A silver key if you did. A silver key for normal mode vet and a gold key for Hard Mode vet.

Just rewording what the OP posted for LordSkyKnight, wasn't around before 1T so don't know myself.

EDIT: Question, did the bronze/silver/gold relate to the quality of the piece you got out of the chest (e.g. blue/purple/gold)? If so why not make that the incentive??

strangeradnd

Anyone running vet dlc dungeons is likely past worrying about keys and is likely sitting on a pile of them already so I don't see it being much of an incentive.

Apache_Kid

Yes, more key

Fang Lair HM should give like 10 keys.

DaveMoeDee

No, don’t need

The reward IS higher for vet. You get monster helms. Gear is also a higher grade.

If people are doing pledges regularly, they are swimming in keys (and helms). For people who do it infrequently, the helm is already a big attraction.

And, tbh, I don't really want to encourage more people to do vet pledges if they can't complete hard mode.

I could see a bump though in rewards for DLC dungeons--though I suppose motifs fill that role.

Bfish22090

Yes, more key

Why use many word when few word do trick

phileunderx2

No, don’t need

I said no. Keys are easy to get. Make alts and do normal pledges with them.

ZOS_Mika

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inthecoconut

Yes, more key

Bfish22090 wrote: »

Why use many word when few word do trick

phileunderx2

No, don’t need

I said no. Keys are easy to get. Make alts and do normal pledges with them.

Merlin13KAGL

No, don’t need

Sparr0w wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

I just started doing the DLC dungeons and am learning the mechanics in normal, but they don't seem that much harder than the previous vet dungeons.

Sparr0w wrote: »

LordSkyKnight wrote: »

Can someone translate this please? I don’t speak derp.

Before the 'one tamriel' update dlc dungeons used to reward double the keys for vet hardmode, now they reward the same amount. Should DLC pledges again reward more keys than other dungeons to entice people to do them, rather than just skip as many people currently do since they are harder?

Actually, before One Tamriel, you would get a bronze key for normal pledges if you didn't kill all bosses. A silver key if you did. A silver key for normal mode vet and a gold key for Hard Mode vet.

Just rewording what the OP posted for LordSkyKnight, wasn't around before 1T so don't know myself.

EDIT: Question, did the bronze/silver/gold relate to the quality of the piece you got out of the chest (e.g. blue/purple/gold)? If so why not make that the incentive??

@Sparr0w the bronze/purple/gold keys corresponded to the chest you would unlock. The chests still corresponded to specific dungeons (just as they do now.)

So if you needed a piece from a Maj chest, you used a bronze key, a Redbeard chest used a silver, DLC used gold. (bronze was from norm, silver from norm full clear, gold only from Vet, 2x keys from Vet HM.)

Also, you weren't guaranteed a shoulder piece at all with each unlock, only the gems and 'Undaunted' sets (Infiltrator, etc). That's another aspect that has changed considerably.

So you might burn 100 keys and only get 30 shoulders, most of which would be wrong set, wrong weight, and wrong trait.

starkerealm

I don't think it's necessary, but, no real objections.

Sparr0w wrote: »

Before the 'one tamriel' update dlc dungeons used to reward double the keys for vet hardmode, now they reward the same amount. Should DLC pledges again reward more keys than other dungeons to entice people to do them, rather than just skip as many people currently do since they are harder?

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It's a little more than that. Originally there were three key types. (Bronze, Silver, and Gold.) Which you'd get for clearing the normal, vet or vet hardmode, pledges. It's been awhile, but I want to say this was before the DLC pledges were split off into their own thing. I don't remember when the keys were reworked into their current format though. I want to say it was before One Tamriel, but I'm honestly not sure.

AlnilamE

No, don’t need

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Sparr0w wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

I just started doing the DLC dungeons and am learning the mechanics in normal, but they don't seem that much harder than the previous vet dungeons.

Sparr0w wrote: »

LordSkyKnight wrote: »

Can someone translate this please? I don’t speak derp.

Before the 'one tamriel' update dlc dungeons used to reward double the keys for vet hardmode, now they reward the same amount. Should DLC pledges again reward more keys than other dungeons to entice people to do them, rather than just skip as many people currently do since they are harder?

Actually, before One Tamriel, you would get a bronze key for normal pledges if you didn't kill all bosses. A silver key if you did. A silver key for normal mode vet and a gold key for Hard Mode vet.

Just rewording what the OP posted for LordSkyKnight, wasn't around before 1T so don't know myself.

EDIT: Question, did the bronze/silver/gold relate to the quality of the piece you got out of the chest (e.g. blue/purple/gold)? If so why not make that the incentive??

@Sparr0w the bronze/purple/gold keys corresponded to the chest you would unlock. The chests still corresponded to specific dungeons (just as they do now.)

So if you needed a piece from a Maj chest, you used a bronze key, a Redbeard chest used a purple, DLC used gold.

Also, you weren't guaranteed a shoulder piece at all with each unlock, only the gems and 'Undaunted' sets (Infiltrator, etc). That's another aspect that has changed considerably.

So you might burn 100 keys and only get 30 shoulders, most of which would be wrong set, wrong weight, and wrong trait.

No, the way it was split was:

Bronze Key - no Monste set
Silver Key - very low chance at blue monster set
Gold Key - Higher chance of purple monster set.

Then they changed it to make all the silver/gold keys give monster sets but diluted the traits.

The switch to having certain sets come from specific sets came with One Tamriel and the addition of the DLC-specific pledge.

LeagueTroll

Have no clue / opinion

AlnilamE wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Sparr0w wrote: »

AlnilamE wrote: »

I just started doing the DLC dungeons and am learning the mechanics in normal, but they don't seem that much harder than the previous vet dungeons.

Sparr0w wrote: »

LordSkyKnight wrote: »

Can someone translate this please? I don’t speak derp.

Before the 'one tamriel' update dlc dungeons used to reward double the keys for vet hardmode, now they reward the same amount. Should DLC pledges again reward more keys than other dungeons to entice people to do them, rather than just skip as many people currently do since they are harder?

Actually, before One Tamriel, you would get a bronze key for normal pledges if you didn't kill all bosses. A silver key if you did. A silver key for normal mode vet and a gold key for Hard Mode vet.

Just rewording what the OP posted for LordSkyKnight, wasn't around before 1T so don't know myself.

EDIT: Question, did the bronze/silver/gold relate to the quality of the piece you got out of the chest (e.g. blue/purple/gold)? If so why not make that the incentive??

@Sparr0w the bronze/purple/gold keys corresponded to the chest you would unlock. The chests still corresponded to specific dungeons (just as they do now.)

So if you needed a piece from a Maj chest, you used a bronze key, a Redbeard chest used a purple, DLC used gold.

Also, you weren't guaranteed a shoulder piece at all with each unlock, only the gems and 'Undaunted' sets (Infiltrator, etc). That's another aspect that has changed considerably.

So you might burn 100 keys and only get 30 shoulders, most of which would be wrong set, wrong weight, and wrong trait.

No, the way it was split was:

Bronze Key - no Monste set
Silver Key - very low chance at blue monster set
Gold Key - Higher chance of purple monster set.

Then they changed it to make all the silver/gold keys give monster sets but diluted the traits.

The switch to having certain sets come from specific sets came with One Tamriel and the addition of the DLC-specific pledge.

The most clear thing I remember:
Bronze key is green, silver key is blue, gold key is purple.

Dubhliam

DLC dungeons have the best kind of incentive:

MOTIFS!!!

Jhalin

Maybe I’m missing something here, but all vHM completions award 2 keys last I checked. DLC regular vet completions could use maybe two for a regular vet clear, but I don’t think that’s really necessary

Jeremy

Yes, more key

LeagueTroll wrote: »

Every one know dlc dungeon are harder. That’s why most skip them. What about increase the reward then, so ppl actually want to do them more. It was 2 purple key on hm b4 1 tam while other dungeons hm only 1 purple key. Plz provide some reasons in comments.

They need to double something. Not sure if keys would do the trick... but might be a good first step. Because currently - trying to do a vet DLC dungeon from the group finder isn't worth the time and aggravation. At least not in my opinion. I only do it when I'm in an especially good mood.

rumple9

They should drop a random VMA masters or asylum weapon