Stam sorc

WacArnold

I have never made one before anybody know how they are performing right now? Any good builds to get me started?

Lichbourne90

I've been a stam sorc main since launch. Love em and they are very strong right now. Ive got 2 builds I run. Both dual wield / 2h. 1 is troll king, seventh legion, impreg for solo - small scale and BGs and the other is troll king, alchemist, duroks bane, and masters dual wield for larger groups (5+). Weps are all axes btw

Waffennacht

I really like it.

I'm running super simple, sword Dancer + automaton + slimecraw

It's fun, I can imagine how well it would do if I put some effort into the gear.

I plan to after I get a 2nd winterborn ring. If ever

barshemm

I just switched sets today, think I found a decent build.

Durok/Troll King/Rangers Gait dw/2h all impen 5h 2m
I run lingering health/speed pots
Back bar escapist/drain health poison
2 swift 1 triune jewelry

Basically trying to play to the Stam sorc strength which is mobility and cover for lack of debuffs. Bleeds ignore resistance so that's my fracture. Duroks gives me defile which allows me to wear down opponents so I can burst them. Rangers and the poison helps me with anything that will slow me down so I can run rally instead of forward momentum because dark deal isn't much of burst heal with the cast time.

I was running durok and fury, I do miss the damage. Over all the latter might be better for duels, open world this build is nice for kiting outnumbered.

Waffennacht

barshemm wrote: »

I just switched sets today, think I found a decent build.

Durok/Troll King/Rangers Gait dw/2h all impen 5h 2m
I run lingering health/speed pots
Back bar escapist/drain health poison
2 swift 1 triune jewelry

Basically trying to play to the Stam sorc strength which is mobility and cover for lack of debuffs. Bleeds ignore resistance so that's my fracture. Duroks gives me defile which allows me to wear down opponents so I can burst them. Rangers and the poison helps me with anything that will slow me down so I can run rally instead of forward momentum because dark deal isn't much of burst heal with the cast time.

I was running durok and fury, I do miss the damage. Over all the latter might be better for duels, open world this build is nice for kiting outnumbered.

In heavy or medium?

barshemm

7 heavy. Actually not running 7 impen. 2 pieces are divines, forgot about that. Was going to transmute them but haven't had the need to. Running warrior mundus.

CatchMeTrolling

No one ever runs prisoners rags ? That literally compliments Stam sorc the most if you’re playing the speedy style

Lichbourne90

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

No one ever runs prisoners rags ? That literally compliments Stam sorc the most if you’re playing the speedy style

Every scroll running stam sorc ever.....

CatchMeTrolling

Lichbourne90 wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

No one ever runs prisoners rags ? That literally compliments Stam sorc the most if you’re playing the speedy style

Every scroll running stam sorc ever.....

Not talking about scroll running, actual combat.

Lichbourne90

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Lichbourne90 wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

No one ever runs prisoners rags ? That literally compliments Stam sorc the most if you’re playing the speedy style

Every scroll running stam sorc ever.....

Not talking about scroll running, actual combat.

Kodi made a summerset build video using it before he quit doing ESO content so I'm sure the builds out there. However myself nor the other stamsorcs I play with use the set. It's more of no regeneration dark deal only build.

CatchMeTrolling

Lichbourne90 wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Lichbourne90 wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

No one ever runs prisoners rags ? That literally compliments Stam sorc the most if you’re playing the speedy style

Every scroll running stam sorc ever.....

Not talking about scroll running, actual combat.

Kodi made a summerset build video using it before he quit doing ESO content so I'm sure the builds out there. However myself nor the other stamsorcs I play with use the set. It's more of no regeneration dark deal only build.

You guys are crazy. It’s the perfect set for solo pvp, since you’ll be kiting and losing. Let’s you stack damage and practically have infinite resources, as long as you can sprint you have resources. No need to run sustain pots, just lingering health speed pots.

If anything it’s the most annoying type of Stam sorc to deal with. Good heals, mobility and damage all in one...makes people want to t bag you after xv1ing cause they can’t kill you easily.

Mister_DMC

I use Prisoners snb and jewels on my Stam sorc, love it

Biro123

Jeep thinking about trying it on my magsorc.. but then keep remembering, no snare removal.

barshemm

Maybe in no cp prisoner rags would be nice but in vivec I haven't had a need. I think I have maybe 16 points in mag regen and I regen magicka more than enough to get dark deals off. Really I have more of a problem with dark deal slowing me down than ever not having enough magicka to cast it. I run 3 weapon damage glyphs btw.

I did about 10 laps around Chalman kiting and killing pugs yesterday. The sprint cost reduction might be nice though. Next time I farm up some cash maybe I will try it over ranger just to see how it goes. Overall I think the snare immunity of ranger will win though.

I do btw only run lingering health speed pots.

Gallagher563

I run 5 medium 2 heavy. Troll king, bone pirate and seventh legion with two hander and bow mostly impen. I actually don't run crit surge in BGs because I think forward momentum along with vigor and dark deal for healing is enough.

CatchMeTrolling

barshemm wrote: »

Maybe in no cp prisoner rags would be nice but in vivec I haven't had a need. I think I have maybe 16 points in mag regen and I regen magicka more than enough to get dark deals off. Really I have more of a problem with dark deal slowing me down than ever not having enough magicka to cast it. I run 3 weapon damage glyphs btw.

I did about 10 laps around Chalman kiting and killing pugs yesterday. The sprint cost reduction might be nice though. Next time I farm up some cash maybe I will try it over ranger just to see how it goes. Overall I think the snare immunity of ranger will win though.

I do btw only run lingering health speed pots.

It’s good in bgs but unnecessary because the fights don’t last long, better off going damage happy.

Prisoners rag you can pretty much pair up with any damage set or mit/utility set and you’ll be fine. It’s not the set of all sets but I can’t think of another set that is on the same level that compliments the speedy stam sorc build. The brawly Stam Sorc is a totally different story.

Plus you have to look at it from more than a Magicka perspective. It’s like as long as you have stam you have magic and as long as you have magic you have stam. It’s a win-win.

WacArnold

What skills do stam sorcs use for pvp?

WacArnold

How ravenger vs seventh? Does rav proc often with hurricane?

CatchMeTrolling

WacArnold wrote: »

What skills do stam sorcs use for pvp?

Sorc skills? Dark deal, Crit Surge, bound armor , hurricane and streak usually the only skills you see used. Some might use encase or rune prison.

Lichbourne90

WacArnold wrote: »

How ravenger vs seventh? Does rav proc often with hurricane?

Hurricane wont proc rav, however rending slashes gives it decent uptime.

ExcaliburESO

I play stam sorc for a weak but i can say its easiest class u can play. U put a dot build and skills u need hurricane dark deal runce prison and bolt escape else u put dots rune prison dawnbeaker execute thats all u need to kill 50% of player other 50% well unfortunetly u cannot kill mag sorcs im sry.

Lichbourne90

ExcaliburESO wrote: »

I play stam sorc for a weak but i can say its easiest class u can play. U put a dot build and skills u need hurricane dark deal runce prison and bolt escape else u put dots rune prison dawnbeaker execute thats all u need to kill 50% of player other 50% well unfortunetly u cannot kill mag sorcs im sry.

Yes u very well can. Stam sorc puts out plenty of burst to kill a magsorc

ExcaliburESO

Well then the noob ones yes the ones who know how to shield properly no. If u die to stam sorcs or anything stamina im afraid u need to look forward into ur playstyle.

Chilly-McFreeze

If you want a really cheesy BG build run 5h - troll king, way of fire and red mountain. Or Duroks as substitute.
With DW as main weapon + 2h as buff bar
2-3 swift jewels, some tristats on bigger pieces.

Escapist's Poison (root, health, stamina)
Lingering Health + major expedition pots.
Dubious or better yet the new drink that does the same but also pushes health regen.

Bound Armaments to compliment troll kings even more.
Bloodthirst to proc all three sets.
Stampede, Streak, Hurricane and Forward Momentum for mobility.
Of course Dark Deal. If you don't want to double bar BA (or run a third bar) also surge.

Heals from tk, pots, vigor, fm, surge, bloodthirst and dd.

For more speed and health reg run steed mundus.
Race orc (health reg, dmg). I was too cheap to race change my dunmer but he compliments with fire dmg and a little bit more mag to streak around.

For the question above why "no one runs prisoners" - with swift jewels, minor and major exp you're fast enough that you barely need to sprint anyway.

Not that I would recommend to counter cheese with cheese in the current sloads era, no no. But I saw this build in another thread and I also thought myself: why invest in any mitigation sets if everyone runs oblivion dmg anyway?

CatchMeTrolling

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

If you want a really cheesy BG build run 5h - troll king, way of fire and red mountain. Or Duroks as substitute.
With DW as main weapon + 2h as buff bar
2-3 swift jewels, some tristats on bigger pieces.

Escapist's Poison (root, health, stamina)
Lingering Health + major expedition pots.
Dubious or better yet the new drink that does the same but also pushes health regen.

Bound Armaments to compliment troll kings even more.
Bloodthirst to proc all three sets.
Stampede, Streak, Hurricane and Forward Momentum for mobility.
Of course Dark Deal. If you don't want to double bar BA (or run a third bar) also surge.

Heals from tk, pots, vigor, fm, surge, bloodthirst and dd.

For more speed and health reg run steed mundus.
Race orc (health reg, dmg). I was too cheap to race change my dunmer but he compliments with fire dmg and a little bit more mag to streak around.

For the question above why "no one runs prisoners" - with swift jewels, minor and major exp you're fast enough that you barely need to sprint anyway.

Not that I would recommend to counter cheese with cheese in the current sloads era, no no. But I saw this build in another thread and I also thought myself: why invest in any mitigation sets if everyone runs oblivion dmg anyway?

Think it’s silly to use Swift traits on a stam sorc, especially considering the fact most are orcs and use speed pots and it’s not about whether you have to sprint or not it’s more so about the benefits sprinting gives when done.

There’s also a difference between a speedy setup and a face tanking brawly setup. In open world solo pvp you’re definitely sprinting when you kite and los, that I know.

As for the above build it is cheesy , it’s one of the builds I posted about before on here except you don’t need troll king, for maximum cheese put on skoria. But I wouldn’t recommend to anyone that actually wants to learn the class , the setup does most of the work for you. Two of the sets barely has a cool down.

geonsocal

once I finally came to terms that there wasn't going to be anything particularly sorcerer like to the character - had a lot more fun and success...

right now using 2H and bow, mighty chudan, sword singer, markmans (sometimes switch to coward's gear for fun)...

all medium...

raasdal

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

If you want a really cheesy BG build run 5h - troll king, way of fire and red mountain. Or Duroks as substitute.
With DW as main weapon + 2h as buff bar
2-3 swift jewels, some tristats on bigger pieces.

Escapist's Poison (root, health, stamina)
Lingering Health + major expedition pots.
Dubious or better yet the new drink that does the same but also pushes health regen.

Bound Armaments to compliment troll kings even more.
Bloodthirst to proc all three sets.
Stampede, Streak, Hurricane and Forward Momentum for mobility.
Of course Dark Deal. If you don't want to double bar BA (or run a third bar) also surge.

Heals from tk, pots, vigor, fm, surge, bloodthirst and dd.

For more speed and health reg run steed mundus.
Race orc (health reg, dmg). I was too cheap to race change my dunmer but he compliments with fire dmg and a little bit more mag to streak around.

For the question above why "no one runs prisoners" - with swift jewels, minor and major exp you're fast enough that you barely need to sprint anyway.

Not that I would recommend to counter cheese with cheese in the current sloads era, no no. But I saw this build in another thread and I also thought myself: why invest in any mitigation sets if everyone runs oblivion dmg anyway?

Think it’s silly to use Swift traits on a stam sorc, especially considering the fact most are orcs and use speed pots and it’s not about whether you have to sprint or not it’s more so about the benefits sprinting gives when done.

There’s also a difference between a speedy setup and a face tanking brawly setup. In open world solo pvp you’re definitely sprinting when you kite and los, that I know.

As for the above build it is cheesy , it’s one of the builds I posted about before on here except you don’t need troll king, for maximum cheese put on skoria. But I wouldn’t recommend to anyone that actually wants to learn the class , the setup does most of the work for you. Two of the sets barely has a cool down.

Do not underestimate the power of Swift. And i would disagree - it is very much about wether you need to sprint at all or not. It is a HUGE difference, when you can LoS, like you were sprinting - but you are'nt. You can dark deal, buff up etc. - all while having the same speed as someone who is sprinting. And it makes you almost untargetable as well. The single most whispered phrase to me, in my 75% base speed increase build, is something in the line of "lol i could not target you at all".

But OK - i am a speed addict. I use 3xSwift on all my Chars now.

For the topic, im just gonna leave this here;

https://youtu.be/SwaM8C9OXNs

CatchMeTrolling

raasdal wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

If you want a really cheesy BG build run 5h - troll king, way of fire and red mountain. Or Duroks as substitute.
With DW as main weapon + 2h as buff bar
2-3 swift jewels, some tristats on bigger pieces.

Escapist's Poison (root, health, stamina)
Lingering Health + major expedition pots.
Dubious or better yet the new drink that does the same but also pushes health regen.

Bound Armaments to compliment troll kings even more.
Bloodthirst to proc all three sets.
Stampede, Streak, Hurricane and Forward Momentum for mobility.
Of course Dark Deal. If you don't want to double bar BA (or run a third bar) also surge.

Heals from tk, pots, vigor, fm, surge, bloodthirst and dd.

For more speed and health reg run steed mundus.
Race orc (health reg, dmg). I was too cheap to race change my dunmer but he compliments with fire dmg and a little bit more mag to streak around.

For the question above why "no one runs prisoners" - with swift jewels, minor and major exp you're fast enough that you barely need to sprint anyway.

Not that I would recommend to counter cheese with cheese in the current sloads era, no no. But I saw this build in another thread and I also thought myself: why invest in any mitigation sets if everyone runs oblivion dmg anyway?

Think it’s silly to use Swift traits on a stam sorc, especially considering the fact most are orcs and use speed pots and it’s not about whether you have to sprint or not it’s more so about the benefits sprinting gives when done.

There’s also a difference between a speedy setup and a face tanking brawly setup. In open world solo pvp you’re definitely sprinting when you kite and los, that I know.

As for the above build it is cheesy , it’s one of the builds I posted about before on here except you don’t need troll king, for maximum cheese put on skoria. But I wouldn’t recommend to anyone that actually wants to learn the class , the setup does most of the work for you. Two of the sets barely has a cool down.

Do not underestimate the power of Swift. And i would disagree - it is very much about wether you need to sprint at all or not. It is a HUGE difference, when you can LoS, like you were sprinting - but you are'nt. You can dark deal, buff up etc. - all while having the same speed as someone who is sprinting. And it makes you almost untargetable as well. The single most whispered phrase to me, in my 75% base speed increase build, is something in the line of "lol i could not target you at all".

But OK - i am a speed addict. I use 3xSwift on all my Chars now.

For the topic, im just gonna leave this here;

https://youtu.be/SwaM8C9OXNs

You’re still fast without sprinting though because you’re using speed pots ? Orc, minor and major. Those 3 are more than enough because realistically you’re going to sprint , that’s one thing classes like stamplar, Stam Sorc and stam Warden do a lot. If you watch videos of good players you’ll see them sprinting when they move rather than just move.

And either way the point is being misconstrued. I was talking about the benefits you get when sprinting which you naturally do...hence why it’s not about whether you need to sprint or not in that moment but the benefits of sprinting combined with prisoners.

raasdal

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

raasdal wrote: »

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Chilly-McFreeze wrote: »

If you want a really cheesy BG build run 5h - troll king, way of fire and red mountain. Or Duroks as substitute.
With DW as main weapon + 2h as buff bar
2-3 swift jewels, some tristats on bigger pieces.

Escapist's Poison (root, health, stamina)
Lingering Health + major expedition pots.
Dubious or better yet the new drink that does the same but also pushes health regen.

Bound Armaments to compliment troll kings even more.
Bloodthirst to proc all three sets.
Stampede, Streak, Hurricane and Forward Momentum for mobility.
Of course Dark Deal. If you don't want to double bar BA (or run a third bar) also surge.

Heals from tk, pots, vigor, fm, surge, bloodthirst and dd.

For more speed and health reg run steed mundus.
Race orc (health reg, dmg). I was too cheap to race change my dunmer but he compliments with fire dmg and a little bit more mag to streak around.

For the question above why "no one runs prisoners" - with swift jewels, minor and major exp you're fast enough that you barely need to sprint anyway.

Not that I would recommend to counter cheese with cheese in the current sloads era, no no. But I saw this build in another thread and I also thought myself: why invest in any mitigation sets if everyone runs oblivion dmg anyway?

Think it’s silly to use Swift traits on a stam sorc, especially considering the fact most are orcs and use speed pots and it’s not about whether you have to sprint or not it’s more so about the benefits sprinting gives when done.

There’s also a difference between a speedy setup and a face tanking brawly setup. In open world solo pvp you’re definitely sprinting when you kite and los, that I know.

As for the above build it is cheesy , it’s one of the builds I posted about before on here except you don’t need troll king, for maximum cheese put on skoria. But I wouldn’t recommend to anyone that actually wants to learn the class , the setup does most of the work for you. Two of the sets barely has a cool down.

Do not underestimate the power of Swift. And i would disagree - it is very much about wether you need to sprint at all or not. It is a HUGE difference, when you can LoS, like you were sprinting - but you are'nt. You can dark deal, buff up etc. - all while having the same speed as someone who is sprinting. And it makes you almost untargetable as well. The single most whispered phrase to me, in my 75% base speed increase build, is something in the line of "lol i could not target you at all".

But OK - i am a speed addict. I use 3xSwift on all my Chars now.

For the topic, im just gonna leave this here;

https://youtu.be/SwaM8C9OXNs

You’re still fast without sprinting though because you’re using speed pots ? Orc, minor and major. Those 3 are more than enough because realistically you’re going to sprint , that’s one thing classes like stamplar, Stam Sorc and stam Warden do a lot. If you watch videos of good players you’ll see them sprinting when they move rather than just move.

And either way the point is being misconstrued. I was talking about the benefits you get when sprinting which you naturally do...hence why it’s not about whether you need to sprint or not in that moment but the benefits of sprinting combined with prisoners.

"If you watch videos of good players you’ll see them sprinting when they move rather than just move."

This will change. Meta will be 3xSwift, within a couple of months. Just wait for Fengrush or someone else to post it. It will come. It always does.

But you are right, in relation to Prisoners, the synergy is there for sure. I was just tickled by the "Swift is silly on a Stamsorc."

Xsorus

I’ve started preparing all my characters for swift as well.

But anyway doing 5heavy impregnable/2 troll Kong’s/5 spriggans on mine.

barshemm

CatchMeTrolling wrote: »

Think it’s silly to use Swift traits on a stam sorc, especially considering the fact most are orcs and use speed pots and it’s not about whether you have to sprint or not it’s more so about the benefits sprinting gives when done.

There’s also a difference between a speedy setup and a face tanking brawly setup. In open world solo pvp you’re definitely sprinting when you kite and los, that I know.

As for the above build it is cheesy , it’s one of the builds I posted about before on here except you don’t need troll king, for maximum cheese put on skoria. But I wouldn’t recommend to anyone that actually wants to learn the class , the setup does most of the work for you. Two of the sets barely has a cool down.

Swift is totally worth it on a stam sorc. I think 2 swift is about perfect, allowing you to run infused weapon damage or triune on the other piece depending on what sets you're running. That extra 18% speed (with purple) is amazing. Mobility is king on a stam sorc and getting more of it only helps.

I think I play a hybrid, I'm a brawly speedy setup. I'll kite in towers for a 1vX but if its just 1 or 2 people I'll go toe to toe and try to burst them down.

Skill wise I run a basic 2h/dw bleed build. Rending slash is my spammable, use carve for ult gen and steel tornado as a finisher after I stack dots and dawnbringer.

I do also run a duroks/ww hide/blood spawn/asylum sword ult gen build for negate sometimes on keep defense. I have 2 swift on that as well.