Earthgore vs Troll King...

Lexxypwns

Earthgore...

@Thogard you can gimp yourself, but EG is the bees knees. If you think it’s not good for fighting outnumbered you’re kidding yourself man. It’s just situational, if you’re holding a chaos ball in BGs there’s nothing more clutch than an EG proc. It’s not helpful 4v15, but at that point how you play is more critical than your undaunted

I understand your objections to using it since it literally wipes out mistakes but it’s phenomenal

Edit: also Pirate > BS

Thogard

Lexxypwns wrote: »

@Thogard you can gimp yourself, but EG is the bees knees. If you think it’s not good for fighting outnumbered you’re kidding yourself man. It’s just situational, if you’re holding a chaos ball in BGs there’s nothing more clutch than an EG proc. It’s not helpful 4v15, but at that point how you play is more critical than your undaunted

I understand your objections to using it since it literally wipes out mistakes but it’s phenomenal

Edit: also Pirate > BS

We’re talking about openworld here, not BGs.

Over a 35s window, in an openworld environment, Bs will proc more than often enough to get you an extra resto or remembrance.

So you are in essence trading
2% healing done and EG proc

For

Resto ult, 5000 resist, 125 Stam regen

Seems like a no brainer if you’re the only magplar in your small scale group. EG doesn’t get strong until you stack it IMO.

Pirate skelly? Nah. If your magplar is the one that’s dying first, you’ve got a crap magplar.

CaliMade

Troll King....

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If you have any hopes of ever being a decent magplar, the correct answer is “bloodspawn”

Troll king should be worn by a Stam player, not the magplar.

Earthgore should be worn by the player who has given up on ever trying to be good or using skill to contribute anything useful. Also must have no sense of shame or decency.

With as much creativity as this game allows with character building, I have a gut feeling that the "absoluteness" of your views is in error...

I mean, are you stating (as if its an absolute fact) that if a Magplar wears any other Monster Set other than Bloodspawn, that the Magplar wont even be decent?

You don't really believe that do you?

Well it’s funny you ask. I’m pretty sure the Tooltip is incomplete for earthgore. The 2 piece should read:

(2 items) When you heal a friendly target that is under 50% Health you conjure a pool of quenching blood and shame underneath them, which soaks up enemy placed effects instantly and heals all friendly targets in the area for 30,000 Health over 6 seconds. This effect can occur once every 35 seconds. While this item is equipped, you are prevented from “getting good.”

But real talk tho, bloodspawn is the better magplar set if your opponent is competent. An EG magplar will have either poor Stam management, poor mag regen, or be easily burst... they just get carried for 6s every 35s. Bloodspawn is better. And it encourages anticipatory healing / ults as well; which is what separates good magplars from crap ones.

Edit: this is all assuming the magplar is the only magplar in the group. If you can stack EGs then obviously they’re OP AF and if your group does that then you’re just bad players.

Really though, I can’t stress enough that wearing earthgore prevents PvP healers from having to learn how to anticipate PvP dmg. When EG isn’t up, the healer is useless against a real organized group.

I occasionally heal PvP with earthgore, just come from a StamNB, you'll know how to anticipate the dmg and avoid getting zerged while healing your group

Precisely...

Thogard is incorrectly assuming that just because you use Earthgore that you don't know what you are doing or that it prevents you from "getting good"...


Well what about the experienced players that already know what they are doing and now use it?

For me, I was always very good at healing, but now with Earthgore, its ridiculously easy...


I view Earthgore the same way I view Zaan; they are sets that allow inexperienced players to have success...

BUT what happens when you place an overtuned set (like Zaan and Earthgore) in the hands of someone who already knows what they are doing?

Well, I used it for the first time earlier today, and literally, my group ran the table in Imperial City for several hours before we got tired and logged off...

During that time, on the rare occasions that someone in my group got into execute range, Earthgore brought them back with ease; between me stacking HoT's, supplying them with shields, and Earthgore my group never was in real danger of losing...


Earthgore is very powerful in the right hands...

I think you and I have different definitions of small scale PvP.

Regardless, bloodspawn should be on the list. After EGs nerf, it can no longer keep people alive through a concerted ult dump from another Stam group. Bloodspawn helps you stay alive but more importantly it’ll give you the ult regen so that you have a remembrance ready when the other team is about to ult dump on you.

And that’s not to mention how extremely important Stam Regen is on a magplar healer in small scale PvP.

But hey, what do I know?

this guy knows