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Who Wants a CP Battleground Option?

mr_wazzabi
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I get why currently battlegrounds are no cp, but I would want zos to separate battlegrounds into a cp and no cp category, then allow the player to decide.

I want to be able to use the extra regen etc that I've grown accustomed to. Currently with no cp, bg has a very different feel and the gameplay is very different as a result.

Let us play the way we do in cyrodiil but in small groups zos.

Please.
Bosmer Stamina NB
Altmer Magicka TEMP
Dunmer DK both stam/mag (depends what I feel like)
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Breton Magicka Sorc
Redguard Stam Sorc
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  • jaws343
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    Urvoth wrote: »
    Nah, no CP is better for BGs and there's not enough players for two separate queues.

    That is your opinion.

    And all of the player-base now has access to BG so the lack of player argument doesn't hold much water anymore. And it could be that if the community is lacking in players it's because they do not like No-CP play. Which makes more sense because Vivec is always the more competitive populated campaign.

    I think CP queues would be great and provide far better gameplay for players who play in CP campaigns as it is. CP and No-CP requires completely different builds and play-styles and not having a CP option is punishing players who would prefer to play with CP like they already do in the most popular campaign in Cyrodil.

    And CP was never the problem with BGs. Pre-made groups were.
    Edited by jaws343 on July 5, 2018 6:23PM
  • Drakkdjinn
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    not me
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  • Daus
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    It would be nice to have the option. The non-CP PvP would have been more balanced if it weren't for proc sets, and resource poisons, but unfortunately Zenimax believes that such carcinogens are fun.
  • Drakkdjinn
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    Daus wrote: »
    It would be nice to have the option. The non-CP PvP would have been more balanced if it weren't for proc sets, and resource poisons, but unfortunately Zenimax believes that such carcinogens are fun.

    And so does the playerbase. I'll take cancer gear over cancer points AND cancer gear anyday.
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    Drakk the Berserker
    Drakk the Barbarian
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  • VaranisArano
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    Qwazz wrote: »
    Let's make Cyrodiil NO-CP only.

    They tried that for two weeks last year. No thanks.

    They also tried to have only one CP campaign and 2 No CP Campaigns last year (+Kyne). Well, there's a reason we have Shor (CP 7-day) now and not Almalexia (No CP 7-day).

    I like CP PVP in Cyrodiil, even though I realize its not everyone's cup of tea.
  • Thogard
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    CP BGs were crap. Don’t get me wrong, I did really well in them... but CP tends to exaggerate the skill differences between new players and vet players.
    Edited by Thogard on July 6, 2018 4:07PM
    PC NA - Thogard / Sir Thogalot / Thoggy Boi jr / Thogaine / Madam Clamslam

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  • Emma_Overload
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    Urvoth wrote: »
    Nah, no CP is better for BGs and there's not enough players for two separate queues.

    You're not taking into account players like me who refuse to play without CP. Damage shields are way too small in No-CP.
    #CAREBEARMASTERRACE
  • MurderMostFoul
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    And CP was never the problem with BGs. Pre-made groups were.

    Endless fights against defense stacking builds in CP BGs was a major problem whether or not you were dealing with pre-mades. It completely drained the fun from BGs.
    “There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.”
  • Koolio
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    I do
  • Aliyavana
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    Urvoth wrote: »
    Nah, no CP is better for BGs and there's not enough players for two separate queues.

    You're not taking into account players like me who refuse to play without CP. Damage shields are way too small in No-CP.

    Gotta change your build around and not rely on shields for clutching. Mag sorcs are amazing for pvp
    Zebendal- Stam Sorc, PC NA
  • Urvoth
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    Urvoth wrote: »
    Nah, no CP is better for BGs and there's not enough players for two separate queues.

    You're not taking into account players like me who refuse to play without CP. Damage shields are way too small in No-CP.

    I'm a magsorc and can use my shields fine in no-CP. In fact, I only use 2 and slot boundless storm instead since the extra mobility is amazing in BGs. You just have to adjust for not being able to spam as much and run sustain sets and pots.
  • Sevn
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    I prefer no cp personally. Less reliance on bloated stats and more reliance on player skill.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man, true nobility is being superior to your former self
    -Hemingway
  • exeeter702
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    mr_wazzabi wrote: »
    I get why currently battlegrounds are no cp, but I would want zos to separate battlegrounds into a cp and no cp category, then allow the player to decide.

    I want to be able to use the extra regen etc that I've grown accustomed to. Currently with no cp, bg has a very different feel and the gameplay is very different as a result.

    Let us play the way we do in cyrodiil but in small groups zos.

    Please.

    Severing the already small player base that participates in BGs into 2 separate groups is not ideal. You may want CP bgs to allow you to play your particular build to its full potential, but you most def. will not want the atrocious queue times that will come with that.

    That speaks nothing to the issues inherent with cp pvp in general. We had CP bgs and they were a joke.
    Edited by exeeter702 on July 6, 2018 11:18PM
  • Emma_Overload
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    Urvoth wrote: »
    Urvoth wrote: »
    Nah, no CP is better for BGs and there's not enough players for two separate queues.

    You're not taking into account players like me who refuse to play without CP. Damage shields are way too small in No-CP.

    I'm a magsorc and can use my shields fine in no-CP. In fact, I only use 2 and slot boundless storm instead since the extra mobility is amazing in BGs. You just have to adjust for not being able to spam as much and run sustain sets and pots.

    Sustain isn't the problem. The problem is that the moment you get focused by more than one player, you are dead. Builds that use resistance and healing or dodging, however, are still very strong in No-CP.

    By the way, everyone in this thread calling damage shields a "crutch" are simply exposing their ignorance of how mag sorcs function.
    #CAREBEARMASTERRACE
  • Zer0oo
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    i like cp pvp more and really would appreciate if we could get also cp bgs. If the amount of ppl is the problem just let ppl who like faster ques que for both cp and no-cp.

    Both cp and no-cp have balance issues but in my opinion cp-pvp is at the moment more balanced.
    EU player that is salty about BAD performance and not working BGs
  • SugaComa
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    Solution is very simple ...

    Everyone gets same armour n stats

    You queue chouse your role, choose heavy medium or light armour n game equips you with your choice ... Only thing seiersting players now is skill

    I know it would never work

    Shame ... Worked for socom for yrs
  • ChiknAriseMcFro
    For personal reasons aside from the aforementioned small player base I'm inclined to say no. I thought it would be neat but they need to fix the broken first. Like points not applying to leaderboard scores.
  • Kel
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    Urvoth wrote: »
    Urvoth wrote: »
    Nah, no CP is better for BGs and there's not enough players for two separate queues.

    You're not taking into account players like me who refuse to play without CP. Damage shields are way too small in No-CP.

    I'm a magsorc and can use my shields fine in no-CP. In fact, I only use 2 and slot boundless storm instead since the extra mobility is amazing in BGs. You just have to adjust for not being able to spam as much and run sustain sets and pots.

    Sustain isn't the problem. The problem is that the moment you get focused by more than one player, you are dead. Builds that use resistance and healing or dodging, however, are still very strong in No-CP.

    By the way, everyone in this thread calling damage shields a "crutch" are simply exposing their ignorance of how mag sorcs function.

    Anytime a sorc get focused on in Cyrodiil by more than one player they are dead, too. Shields or not. That's why sorcs have bolt escape. Shields are not the end all be all for survival, even with cp.
    Mag sorcs who adapt to no cp do amazing. It's not ignorance, it's over reliance on stacking a ability you've convinced yourself you can't do without.
    Notice my score? Notice I'm playing a sorc?
    It's absolutely doable, you just have to adjust how you play. You are either willing to do that, or you're not, but don't try claiming ignorance.
    https://imgur.com/kwh4YTp
  • Aliyavana
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    jabrone77 wrote: »
    Urvoth wrote: »
    Urvoth wrote: »
    Nah, no CP is better for BGs and there's not enough players for two separate queues.

    You're not taking into account players like me who refuse to play without CP. Damage shields are way too small in No-CP.

    I'm a magsorc and can use my shields fine in no-CP. In fact, I only use 2 and slot boundless storm instead since the extra mobility is amazing in BGs. You just have to adjust for not being able to spam as much and run sustain sets and pots.

    Sustain isn't the problem. The problem is that the moment you get focused by more than one player, you are dead. Builds that use resistance and healing or dodging, however, are still very strong in No-CP.

    By the way, everyone in this thread calling damage shields a "crutch" are simply exposing their ignorance of how mag sorcs function.

    Anytime a sorc get focused on in Cyrodiil by more than one player they are dead, too. Shields or not. That's why sorcs have bolt escape. Shields are not the end all be all for survival, even with cp.
    Mag sorcs who adapt to no cp do amazing. It's not ignorance, it's over reliance on stacking a ability you've convinced yourself you can't do without.
    Notice my score? Notice I'm playing a sorc?
    It's absolutely doable, you just have to adjust how you play. You are either willing to do that, or you're not, but don't try claiming ignorance.
    https://imgur.com/kwh4YTp

    great mag sorcs are a pain to kill in no cp
    Zebendal- Stam Sorc, PC NA
  • Morgul667
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    We tried it was a nightmare

    No thank you
    Edited by Morgul667 on July 8, 2018 4:04AM
  • zParallaxz
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    I know what the real problems are, I used to want to cp too but in reality I just want my resources that are locked behind cp such as my mag, stam, and health
  • Drakkdjinn
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    Qwazz wrote: »
    Let's make Cyrodiil NO-CP only.

    They tried that for two weeks last year. No thanks.

    They also tried to have only one CP campaign and 2 No CP Campaigns last year (+Kyne). Well, there's a reason we have Shor (CP 7-day) now and not Almalexia (No CP 7-day).

    I like CP PVP in Cyrodiil, even though I realize its not everyone's cup of tea.

    They tried it for 2 weeks last year, pops were locked everyday of the test, not sure why you think that’s a counter-point of any kind.
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