Curse of doylemish set

regime211

This set needs a major Re-haul it isn't viable in pvp or pve. Me and a buddy have been testing it and the damage tool tip on the set Does not hit as strong as it says it does. I believe something should be changed to make this set useful or is the set itself not working as intended? The highest damage I witnessed was 5156 on a death recap. The rest were lower, I do have 2500 crit resistant.

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JobooAGS

regime211 wrote: »

This set needs a major Re-haul it isn't viable in pvp or pve. Me and a buddy have been testing it and the damage tool tip on the set Does not hit as strong as it says it does. I believe something should be changed to make this set useful or is the set itself not working as intended? The highest damage I witnessed was 5156 on a death recap. The rest were lower, I do have 2500 crit resistant.

@ZOS_CoriJ
@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@ZOS_BillE
@ZOS_GaryA
@ZOS_MikaS

Battle spirit and resistances decrease the damage taken by 50% and up to 50% respectively. Crit resistance does nothing against proc sets as they can't crit

regime211

JobooAGS wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

This set needs a major Re-haul it isn't viable in pvp or pve. Me and a buddy have been testing it and the damage tool tip on the set Does not hit as strong as it says it does. I believe something should be changed to make this set useful or is the set itself not working as intended? The highest damage I witnessed was 5156 on a death recap. The rest were lower, I do have 2500 crit resistant.

@ZOS_CoriJ
@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@ZOS_BillE
@ZOS_GaryA
@ZOS_MikaS

Battle spirit and resistances decrease the damage taken by 50% and up to 50% respectively. Crit resistance does nothing against proc sets as they can't crit

Then the set is useless and they never should of introduced it.

White wabbit

regime211 wrote: »

JobooAGS wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

This set needs a major Re-haul it isn't viable in pvp or pve. Me and a buddy have been testing it and the damage tool tip on the set Does not hit as strong as it says it does. I believe something should be changed to make this set useful or is the set itself not working as intended? The highest damage I witnessed was 5156 on a death recap. The rest were lower, I do have 2500 crit resistant.

@ZOS_CoriJ
@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@ZOS_BillE
@ZOS_GaryA
@ZOS_MikaS

Battle spirit and resistances decrease the damage taken by 50% and up to 50% respectively. Crit resistance does nothing against proc sets as they can't crit

Then the set is useless and they never should of introduced it.

Lol really are you listening to yourself

Checkmath

Better to have a bad proc set in the game than a good proc set

Aznox

Oh, look, a proc set that isn't overtuned !

Quick, throw a bunch of meaningless observations together and ping half of the ZoS staff !

#ThisIsWhyWeCan'tHaveNiceThings

The only problem about this set is the impossibility to proc it reliably against a competitive opponent, not its tooltip number.

Vapirko

Why do you want another OP proc set? Weren’t you just in here complaining about rune cage being OP?

raasdal

Yes, please buff Doylemish. I am thinking maybe 16k tooltip and major defile for 6 seconds?

Or maybe it could force opponents attack to miss for 5 seconds? I mean, it shoots out lasers right? Those suckers will blind you!

#makedoylemishgreatagain

Merlin13KAGL

Battle Spirit already mentioned. You do realize the resulting damage is also before mitigation, correct?

You're never going to get a tooltip value hit on anyone unless they're running around unclothed.

mursie

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Battle Spirit already mentioned. You do realize the resulting damage is also before mitigation, correct?

You're never going to get a tooltip value hit on anyone unless they're running around unclothed.

have you seen sloads? i think it's tooltip value is working spot on

Waffennacht

mursie wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Battle Spirit already mentioned. You do realize the resulting damage is also before mitigation, correct?

You're never going to get a tooltip value hit on anyone unless they're running around unclothed.

have you seen sloads? i think it's tooltip value is working spot on

Oblivion damage....

Isn't affected by Battle Spirit, resistance, CP mitigation etc...

Smh

Neoauspex

Doyle rules

Waffennacht

Neoauspex wrote: »

Doyle rules

In some circles, a legend.

Lol

I extensively used the set in the past and didn't like it

The new rune cage changes however make it very viable, then combined with entrapment poison (btw does it still go through mist form and roll Dodge? If so...)

jaws343

Doylemish is a really strong set if you actually know what you are doing with it in PVP. You can 1vx with the set rather comfortably. You have to build a heavy attack stun build around it, so it isn't going to perform like other sets. But it is strong and you can line up 20K+ damage on an opponent within a second or two using this set properly.

And I have a build that uses this and have found it successful against most play types.

Checkmath

it fits best together with a delayed stun ability. i recently saw a video of a stam sorc using it together with rune cage. since rune cage is delayed, he could cast it and start a dual wield heavy attack, which most likely always hit.

exeeter702

Waffennacht wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Doyle rules

In some circles, a legend.

Lol

I extensively used the set in the past and didn't like it

The new rune cage changes however make it very viable, then combined with entrapment poison (btw does it still go through mist form and roll Dodge? If so...)

im pretty sure he was going for a billy madison reference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVO3NJCPIoY

Neoauspex

exeeter702 wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

Doyle rules

In some circles, a legend.

Lol

I extensively used the set in the past and didn't like it

The new rune cage changes however make it very viable, then combined with entrapment poison (btw does it still go through mist form and roll Dodge? If so...)

im pretty sure he was going for a billy madison reference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVO3NJCPIoY

Both are good. Was definitely going for Billy Madison though.

regime211

Aznox wrote: »

Oh, look, a proc set that isn't overtuned !

Quick, throw a bunch of meaningless observations together and ping half of the ZoS staff !

#ThisIsWhyWeCan'tHaveNiceThings

The only problem about this set is the impossibility to proc it reliably against a competitive opponent, not its tooltip number.

Uh gee you think? Just because I only talked about the tool tip doesn't mean I forgot about the proc chance.

regime211

White wabbit wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

JobooAGS wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

This set needs a major Re-haul it isn't viable in pvp or pve. Me and a buddy have been testing it and the damage tool tip on the set Does not hit as strong as it says it does. I believe something should be changed to make this set useful or is the set itself not working as intended? The highest damage I witnessed was 5156 on a death recap. The rest were lower, I do have 2500 crit resistant.

@ZOS_CoriJ
@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@ZOS_BillE
@ZOS_GaryA
@ZOS_MikaS

Battle spirit and resistances decrease the damage taken by 50% and up to 50% respectively. Crit resistance does nothing against proc sets as they can't crit

Then the set is useless and they never should of introduced it.

Lol really are you listening to yourself

Yeah and once again the set is USELESS! I have yet to see anyone run it AT ALL. "LOL really are you listening to yourself"

regime211

Vapirko wrote: »

Why do you want another OP proc set? Weren’t you just in here complaining about rune cage being OP?

Damn rune cage is a proc set? I didn't know that. Durrr

regime211

jaws343 wrote: »

Doylemish is a really strong set if you actually know what you are doing with it in PVP. You can 1vx with the set rather comfortably. You have to build a heavy attack stun build around it, so it isn't going to perform like other sets. But it is strong and you can line up 20K+ damage on an opponent within a second or two using this set properly.

And I have a build that uses this and have found it successful against most play types.

Video proof or It didn't happen.

RighteousBacon

regime211 wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

Doylemish is a really strong set if you actually know what you are doing with it in PVP. You can 1vx with the set rather comfortably. You have to build a heavy attack stun build around it, so it isn't going to perform like other sets. But it is strong and you can line up 20K+ damage on an opponent within a second or two using this set properly.

And I have a build that uses this and have found it successful against most play types.

Video proof or It didn't happen.

Here is video proof in this thread
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/423005/build-swifty-stamina-sorcerer-75-base-speed-boost-and-procs-summerset#latest

ItsNebula

regime211 wrote: »

This set needs a major Re-haul it isn't viable in pvp or pve. Me and a buddy have been testing it and the damage tool tip on the set Does not hit as strong as it says it does. I believe something should be changed to make this set useful or is the set itself not working as intended? The highest damage I witnessed was 5156 on a death recap. The rest were lower, I do have 2500 crit resistant.

@ZOS_CoriJ
@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@ZOS_BillE
@ZOS_GaryA
@ZOS_MikaS

Trying to hit the tooltip value, is like me trying to get my cfrags to hit for 17.2k, its tooltip value. Tooltips are 99.9% of the time NEVER going to hit for what it says

IZZEFlameLash

ItsNebula wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

This set needs a major Re-haul it isn't viable in pvp or pve. Me and a buddy have been testing it and the damage tool tip on the set Does not hit as strong as it says it does. I believe something should be changed to make this set useful or is the set itself not working as intended? The highest damage I witnessed was 5156 on a death recap. The rest were lower, I do have 2500 crit resistant.

@ZOS_CoriJ
@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@ZOS_BillE
@ZOS_GaryA
@ZOS_MikaS

Trying to hit the tooltip value, is like me trying to get my cfrags to hit for 17.2k, its tooltip value. Tooltips are 99.9% of the time NEVER going to hit for what it says

Unless there's a set that turns the skill damage to deal Oblivion damage. Lol.

montjie

Fossizile is actually a better CC to use in combination with the set than rune cage since the set also procs on immobilizes forcing your target to break free and dodge roll. And even with fossilize the proc isnt reliable.
I wonder if the people saying its great actually tested the set themselves. Or are they just parroting what others are saying.

Deep_01

You have never tried fossilise+s&b HA ? It's above decent.

jaws343

regime211 wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

Doylemish is a really strong set if you actually know what you are doing with it in PVP. You can 1vx with the set rather comfortably. You have to build a heavy attack stun build around it, so it isn't going to perform like other sets. But it is strong and you can line up 20K+ damage on an opponent within a second or two using this set properly.

And I have a build that uses this and have found it successful against most play types.

Video proof or It didn't happen.

https://youtu.be/hMtOivKHaGw

raasdal

Doylemish is weak and needs to be converted from Physical damage into Oblivion damage. That would make it suck a little bit less.

#makedoylemishgreatagain

https://youtu.be/_aNJg7BkMJM

jaws343

montjie wrote: »

Fossizile is actually a better CC to use in combination with the set than rune cage since the set also procs on immobilizes forcing your target to break free and dodge roll. And even with fossilize the proc isnt reliable.
I wonder if the people saying its great actually tested the set themselves. Or are they just parroting what others are saying.

I use Fossilize and Reverb for my stun. Fossilize if they are blocking and reverb most of the other times for the defile. I also like to open with Invasion which provides a decent stun to open the fight with a doylemish heavy attack.

HackTheMinotaur

This set is actually very well tuned and only works well on a few niche builds. Any buff to this set would make it too OP. Observe:

https://youtu.be/eCiJl3CgnDo

SquareSausage

I tried it with stam dk and mag dk using fossilize and or roots, most players break free then roll dodge/blink/cloak/cleanse not giving enough time to land a heavy attack.

Found it very much lacking as the double health bonus +1 off spec stat just made it weak.