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why is no one talking about calurions magblade?
Swimguy
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yea magsorcs are stronk but what about the unavoidable burst concealed+callurions is that raages from 14-19k in PvP (dont forget incap/soul harvest+ele det etc)??? on a class that can perma cloak. idk why IC isnt swarmed with this already. seems as though people only complain when stamina has the OP proc set..
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TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭yea magsorcs are stronk but what about the unavoidable burst concealed+callurions is that raages from 14-19k in PvP (dont forget incap/soul harvest+ele det etc)??? on a class that can perma cloak. idk why IC isnt swarmed with this already. seems as though people only complain when stamina has the OP proc set..
14-19k in PvP!???
If that combo is hitting someone that hard, then the problem is that someone needs to pay more attention to their defensive capability...
Unyeilding Bias
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Mihael✭✭✭✭caluurion needs to go same as sloads if you cant play mag blade without being carried by procs you need to re roll7
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Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I've been asking for something to be done about Caluurion but it doesn't have the same outcry.1 -
Kram8ion✭✭✭✭✭Because it's reflected by dk wings and it's mind numbingly slowAussie lag is real!5 -
glavius✭✭✭✭✭yea magsorcs are stronk but what about the unavoidable burst concealed+callurions is that raages from 14-19k in PvP (dont forget incap/soul harvest+ele det etc)??? on a class that can perma cloak. idk why IC isnt swarmed with this already. seems as though people only complain when stamina has the OP proc set..
It's good, but basically makes attacking a reflect user suicide.1 -
Swimguy✭✭✭Because it's reflected by dk wings and it's mind numbingly slow
yea but on classes that dont reflect its almost guaranteed kill. also magblades use it to gank meaning u probably wont have reflect up anyways....
doesnt matter how slow the projectile is if it hits instantly from melee.... lol
Edited by Swimguy on June 23, 2018 6:27AM3 -
Kram8ion✭✭✭✭✭It's not hitting harder than any number of sets or abilities it's just part of a combination used, please stop singling out one part of death recap as op when it's almost always a combination of many
Oh and yes I have used the set myself months ago and found it pretty averageEdited by Kram8ion on June 23, 2018 7:18AMAussie lag is real!2 -
Feanor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Nightblades are not Sorcs, and it’s „nerf Sorcs“ season at the moment. NBs will get their turn again once Sorcs are ruined.Main characters: Feanor the Believer - AD Altmer mSorc - AR 50 - Flawless Conqueror (PC EU)Idril Arnanor - AD Altmer mSorc - CP 217 - Stormproof (PC NA)Other characters:Necrophilius Killgood - DC Imperial NecromancerFearscales - AD Argonian Templar - Stormproof (healer)Draco Imperialis - AD Imperial DK (tank)Cabed Naearamarth - AD Dunmer mDKValirion Willowthorne - AD Bosmer stamBladeTuruna - AD Altmer magBladeKheled Zaram - AD Redguard stamDKKibil Nala - AD Redguard stamSorc - StormproofYavanna Kémentárí - AD Breton magWardenAzog gro-Ghâsh - EP Orc stamWardenVidar Drakenblød - DC Nord mDKMarquis de Peyrac - DC Breton mSorc - StormproofRawlith Khaj'ra - AD Khajiit stamWardenTu'waccah - AD Redguard StamplarAll chars 50 @ CP 1900+. Playing and enjoying PvP with RdK mostly on PC EU.7 -
Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Because they are focusing on Sload's. Better learn how to roll randomly or hold block when you see an NB around...0 -
The_Protagonist✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why don't we all make a list of every set that anyone has died to and start crying tears of salt till those sets give nothing but negative stats.
Clever Alchemist - It only buffed WD/SD and it was nerfed (I remember the reason given for the nerf, it was a lazy adjustment)
Crit Removal from stealth and Proc Sets - PvE was hurt most by this nerf and this was celebrated by non impen scrubs
Anyone who likes to continue the list please do so.
ZOS you should really analyze a little bit more before rolling out nerfs and destroying your own work. The wish of a few does not exceed the enjoyment of many.
Cheers.7 -
ChefZero✭✭✭✭Caluurion is more a troll than cancer build IMO. Also on PC EU I don't encounter any dangerous magNB (especially in melee combat) in BGs or Cyrodiil since week's.
Maybe they are afraid of Sloads? Or are they jealous of other classes who are more able to use skills with delayed damage for burst?PC EU - DC only0 -
Brutusmax1mus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Waffennacht wrote: »The cool down is what makes it balanced
High burst damage high cooldown leaves fewer instances of counterplay though. Zaans, for instance, at least builds up its damage.
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DDuke✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭You've gotta compare it to other stealth burst combos.
Asylum Snipe deals more damage, Crystal Blast(or Rune Cage)+Overload deals more damage, Dark Flare Javelin deals more damage etc.
Once they add another similar proc set or two to go along with Caluurion, then watch out. But until then...
Edit: with pre-procced (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/419374/assassins-will-exploit/p4) Assassin's Scourge it's broken though lolEdited by DDuke on June 23, 2018 11:57AM2 -
The_Protagonist✭✭✭✭✭
✭You've gotta compare it to other stealth burst combos.
Asylum Snipe deals more damage, Crystal Blast(or Rune Cage)+Overload deals more damage, Dark Flare Javelin deals more damage etc.
Once they add another similar proc set or two to go along with Caluurion, then watch out. But until then...
Edit: with pre-procced (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/419374/assassins-will-exploit/p4) Assassin's Scourge it's broken though lol
That is most certainly unintended, however there has been no word from ZOS yet on this, probably because it could be a lot of work for them to fix it.
I like proc sets no doubt there, but I despise exploits of any kind.0 -
agrr70✭✭✭Saw my mate attacking a DK, caluurians procced jus before he flapped his wings, was like slow motion watching it go in then bounce back to him lolEdited by agrr70 on June 23, 2018 2:50PMSmell my Cheese,
Bowtard,feed me your tears
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Swimguy✭✭✭Because it's reflected by dk wings and it's mind numbingly slowBecause they are focusing on Sload's. Better learn how to roll randomly or hold block when you see an NB around...TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »yea magsorcs are stronk but what about the unavoidable burst concealed+callurions is that raages from 14-19k in PvP (dont forget incap/soul harvest+ele det etc)??? on a class that can perma cloak. idk why IC isnt swarmed with this already. seems as though people only complain when stamina has the OP proc set..
14-19k in PvP!???
If that combo is hitting someone that hard, then the problem is that someone needs to pay more attention to their defensive capability...
concealed for 6k from stealth and callurions hits 9k. 2k impen and 18k resistances. this set is OP idk why people complained about the old viper but when callurions comes out its like w/e.3 -
Swimguy✭✭✭You've gotta compare it to other stealth burst combos.
Asylum Snipe deals more damage, Crystal Blast(or Rune Cage)+Overload deals more damage, Dark Flare Javelin deals more damage etc.
Once they add another similar proc set or two to go along with Caluurion, then watch out. But until then...
Edit: with pre-procced (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/419374/assassins-will-exploit/p4) Assassin's Scourge it's broken though lol
true buy asylum snipe gank takes at least some skill/practice of using it, and so does magplar but callurions literally is just 1 button and you get roughly an extra 10k burst.... if ZOS wants to slowly remove all the skill and just make PvP a proc v proc RNG fest then there doing a good job.
Its honestly getting pretty obvious there is a clear bias towards mag classes not only from players but the devs too..... SMHEdited by Swimguy on June 23, 2018 3:43PM1 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You've gotta compare it to other stealth burst combos.
Asylum Snipe deals more damage, Crystal Blast(or Rune Cage)+Overload deals more damage, Dark Flare Javelin deals more damage etc.
Once they add another similar proc set or two to go along with Caluurion, then watch out. But until then...
Edit: with pre-procced (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/419374/assassins-will-exploit/p4) Assassin's Scourge it's broken though lol
true buy asylum snipe gank takes at least some skill/practice of using it, and so does magplar but callurions literally is just 1 button and you get roughly an extra 10k burst.... if ZOS wants to slowly remove all the skill and just make PvP a proc v proc RNG fest then there doing a good job.
Its honestly getting pretty obvious there is a clear bias towards mag classes not only from players but the devs too..... SMH
Wtf, the only time mag was favored was like 4 years ago during the elder staves online. But since then WAY more towards Stam
More proc sets, faster cooldown, better stats. I.e. Hundling LONG before Juli
Viper, Tremor, Sheer, veli, Selene, hell Skoria was almost exclusively Stam builds for a while vs what Zaan, Cal and skoria??
Shorter cooldowns on all, with equivalent or more damage.
Mag gets 2 proc sets and Stam freaks out.
Not like mag gets an AoE undodgeable execute, resistance ignoring bleeds, gap closer, HoTs, spot heals, spammables, Dodge, snare immunity, non-resistance based mitigation, dot execute, spammable execute etc
The only advantage Mag has is range for PvE6 -
thankyourat✭✭✭✭✭
✭Waffennacht wrote: »You've gotta compare it to other stealth burst combos.
Asylum Snipe deals more damage, Crystal Blast(or Rune Cage)+Overload deals more damage, Dark Flare Javelin deals more damage etc.
Once they add another similar proc set or two to go along with Caluurion, then watch out. But until then...
Edit: with pre-procced (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/419374/assassins-will-exploit/p4) Assassin's Scourge it's broken though lol
true buy asylum snipe gank takes at least some skill/practice of using it, and so does magplar but callurions literally is just 1 button and you get roughly an extra 10k burst.... if ZOS wants to slowly remove all the skill and just make PvP a proc v proc RNG fest then there doing a good job.
Its honestly getting pretty obvious there is a clear bias towards mag classes not only from players but the devs too..... SMH
Wtf, the only time mag was favored was like 4 years ago during the elder staves online. But since then WAY more towards Stam
More proc sets, faster cooldown, better stats. I.e. Hundling LONG before Juli
Viper, Tremor, Sheer, veli, Selene, hell Skoria was almost exclusively Stam builds for a while vs what Zaan, Cal and skoria??
Shorter cooldowns on all, with equivalent or more damage.
Mag gets 2 proc sets and Stam freaks out.
Not like mag gets an AoE undodgeable execute, resistance ignoring bleeds, gap closer, HoTs, spot heals, spammables, Dodge, snare immunity, non-resistance based mitigation, dot execute, spammable execute etc
The only advantage Mag has is range for PvE
Stam also has good heavy armor sets which Magicka doesn't have. I wish there was a Magicka version of Truth, fury or 7th legion because light armor is pure garbage...
In my opinion the proc sets need to go but I wish Magicka had viable heavy armor damage sets to compensateEdited by thankyourat on June 23, 2018 5:58PM2 -
ChefZero✭✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »You've gotta compare it to other stealth burst combos.
Asylum Snipe deals more damage, Crystal Blast(or Rune Cage)+Overload deals more damage, Dark Flare Javelin deals more damage etc.
Once they add another similar proc set or two to go along with Caluurion, then watch out. But until then...
Edit: with pre-procced (https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/419374/assassins-will-exploit/p4) Assassin's Scourge it's broken though lol
true buy asylum snipe gank takes at least some skill/practice of using it, and so does magplar but callurions literally is just 1 button and you get roughly an extra 10k burst.... if ZOS wants to slowly remove all the skill and just make PvP a proc v proc RNG fest then there doing a good job.
Its honestly getting pretty obvious there is a clear bias towards mag classes not only from players but the devs too..... SMH
Wtf, the only time mag was favored was like 4 years ago during the elder staves online. But since then WAY more towards Stam
More proc sets, faster cooldown, better stats. I.e. Hundling LONG before Juli
Viper, Tremor, Sheer, veli, Selene, hell Skoria was almost exclusively Stam builds for a while vs what Zaan, Cal and skoria??
Shorter cooldowns on all, with equivalent or more damage.
Mag gets 2 proc sets and Stam freaks out.
Not like mag gets an AoE undodgeable execute, resistance ignoring bleeds, gap closer, HoTs, spot heals, spammables, Dodge, snare immunity, non-resistance based mitigation, dot execute, spammable execute etc
The only advantage Mag has is range for PvE
Stam also has good heavy armor sets which Magicka doesn't have. I wish there was a Magicka version of Truth, fury or 7th legion because light armor is pure garbage...
In my opinion the proc sets need to go but I wish Magicka had viable heavy armor damage sets to compensate
Try Onslaught with Mechanical Acuity. It works on my mNB and should also work on Sorc.. pretty funny and people don't realize what happened
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✭✭✭✭✭I fear more the crippling grasp, Zaan, Assassins will combo. 14k Assassins will in light armor.5 -
Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭grannas211 wrote: »Because thats not a nerf sorc thread. Duh.
To me it is, my sorc is my primary user of Cal0 -
TheDoomsdayMonster✭✭✭✭✭Because it's reflected by dk wings and it's mind numbingly slowBecause they are focusing on Sload's. Better learn how to roll randomly or hold block when you see an NB around...TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »yea magsorcs are stronk but what about the unavoidable burst concealed+callurions is that raages from 14-19k in PvP (dont forget incap/soul harvest+ele det etc)??? on a class that can perma cloak. idk why IC isnt swarmed with this already. seems as though people only complain when stamina has the OP proc set..
14-19k in PvP!???
If that combo is hitting someone that hard, then the problem is that someone needs to pay more attention to their defensive capability...
concealed for 6k from stealth and callurions hits 9k. 2k impen and 18k resistances. this set is OP idk why people complained about the old viper but when callurions comes out its like w/e.
Try running 29k Resists and 2.8k Impend and watch those numbers drop dramatically...Unyeilding Bias
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Mihael✭✭✭✭The_Protagonist wrote: »Why don't we all make a list of every set that anyone has died to and start crying tears of salt till those sets give nothing but negative stats.
Clever Alchemist - It only buffed WD/SD and it was nerfed (I remember the reason given for the nerf, it was a lazy adjustment)
Crit Removal from stealth and Proc Sets - PvE was hurt most by this nerf and this was celebrated by non impen scrubs
Anyone who likes to continue the list please do so.
ZOS you should really analyze a little bit more before rolling out nerfs and destroying your own work. The wish of a few does not exceed the enjoyment of many.
Cheers.
By any chance where you a clever alch ganker before?0
