Defense Ticks- why bring back boosting?

Crom_CCCXVI

I feel like ZOS must have replaced all the old people and brought in a bunch of new guys because between the massive lag/freeze increase with Summerset, they also brought back the easiest boost in the game. It feels like a step backward?

So guild _________ wants their guy as Emperor, they all switch toons to say AD, (thanks One Tamriel!) and attack some remote keep/resource which is defensed by their Emp Candidate who is still on DC, he /wipes their 20 man set up team, gets his 50K D-tick and then they repeat it again. I thought that was the reason they made offensive takes more valuable to prevent that boosting?

This whole update feels like it came from someone who hasn't been with the game very long, to much emphasis on aesthetics in PvP and reopening one of the biggest exploits in the game

Anazasi

I'm confused. which exploit was that again? The D-Tick or the cross faction issue?

VaranisArano

The exploit is the whole "let me "defend" against my friends and generate a massive D tick without actually having to fight for realsies" that we've known about for a long time.

We've seen this type of friend farming before, its just sad that amechanics that's done a really good job of incentivizes legitimate keep defenses is also used by AP farmers to generate fake ticks for themselves.

s7732425ub17_ESO

This is definitely against the spirit of the game, and players who do this should be looked at. However, lowering D ticks will hurt everyone who plays the game legitimately.

frozywozy

Again, since they allow people to play on any faction / campaign with the same account, the only way to counter people from exploiting AP is to set up different automations ans triggers ingame that notify game masters when someone is gaining AP very quickly in a short time, and then have the game master monitor manually what the players are doing by using invisibility and teleportation to players.

Karivaa

We do need to defend. Emps who got emp by taking empty keeps was just dumb.

zyk

frozywozy wrote: »

Again, since they allow people to play on any faction / campaign with the same account, the only way to counter people from exploiting AP is to set up different automations ans triggers ingame that notify game masters when someone is gaining AP very quickly in a short time, and then have the game master monitor manually what the players are doing by using invisibility and teleportation to players.

While that's true at a very basic level, it's a little more nuanced than that. The way the low pop AP bonus was was implemented makes this very low hanging fruit that requires minimal effort for large gains on some campaigns.

This is much like the change to scroll scoring. ZOS is making changes without properly vetting them by considering what issues may come as a result of the changes and how they may be mitigated or better implemented.

More than AvA needs full time GMs, it needs full time gameplay designers that can give their full attention to AvA gameplay.

BloodBeast_ESO

what kind of player are you do you not enjoy getting the thicc ticcs

Anazasi

frozywozy wrote: »

Again, since they allow people to play on any faction / campaign with the same account, the only way to counter people from exploiting AP is to set up different automations ans triggers ingame that notify game masters when someone is gaining AP very quickly in a short time, and then have the game master monitor manually what the players are doing by using invisibility and teleportation to players.

I can only imagine some voice mail box or email box that is looked at by no one. Your faith in ZOS is sadly misplaced.

Slowbromance

They honestly need to lock accounts into home/guest campaign factions for the duration of that campaign. So if you're on your AD toon and queue AD for Vivec you are AD for the duration of that 30 day campaign. If you quit the campaign it costs you AP, and you cannot rejoin until the next campaign begins. Same for guest campaigns you join and perhaps change it to allow you to get credit in both.

That way you can have a 30 day going on as well as a 7 day, and you can switch between. It's not a full permanent account lock as I know so many people hate that idea, but the swapping is getting tired. We were defending Cropsford for a bit last night, and one person we killed a few times on another faction queued into our faction and joined our group. As soon as they did we conveniently had a small man targeting our group. It completely generates distrust and kills morale in this game.

VaranisArano

Slowbromance wrote: »

They honestly need to lock accounts into home/guest campaign factions for the duration of that campaign. So if you're on your AD toon and queue AD for Vivec you are AD for the duration of that 30 day campaign. If you quit the campaign it costs you AP, and you cannot rejoin until the next campaign begins. Same for guest campaigns you join and perhaps change it to allow you to get credit in both.

That way you can have a 30 day going on as well as a 7 day, and you can switch between. It's not a full permanent account lock as I know so many people hate that idea, but the swapping is getting tired. We were defending Cropsford for a bit last night, and one person we killed a few times on another faction queued into our faction and joined our group. As soon as they did we conveniently had a small man targeting our group. It completely generates distrust and kills morale in this game.

I mean, sure, unless you are playing on the No CP campaign, which hasn't had a 7-day campaign since Almalexia got closed for lack of population...

Slowbromance

VaranisArano wrote: »

I mean, sure, unless you are playing on the No CP campaign, which hasn't had a 7-day campaign since Almalexia got closed for lack of population...

You'd still get to choose which 7 day you'd want to be part of. But again, the focus would be to balance out the instant faction swapping. I don't think it would kill anyone to be locked into one faction for a full 30 day campaign. Play with your other faction friends in PvP the following campaign. Or go small man with them in another campaign on a different faction.