XP earned needs to count on BOTH bars.

ArchMikem

I wasted 250k xp cause my group burned a normal boss and i couldn't bar swap in time...

Ashamray

Yeah, would help a bit with leveling your 5th character.

lardvader

Would be nice but never felt this was a big issue. Could be included in the qol update I hope we're getting.

SquareSausage

Yea it would be nice.
Have forgotten to bar swap on enlightened daily random few times and its a pain in the ass.

acampbell

It would definitely be useful if XP contributed to the skills slotted on both bars, then you wouldn’t have to be worried about swapping bars before rewards.

Apache_Kid

I never thought about this but you're totally right. Can't tell you how many times ive forgotten to swap bars at the end of a random. The more i think about it the more angry i am that this isnt a thing. Why should you only get exp for one bar? What a dumb concept. Heated AF

Ladislao

XP earned needs to count for EVERY learned skill because I forgot to put them on the bar...

glorinand

I couldn't agree more.

kylewwefan

Completely agree.

Merlin13KAGL

To be fair, it should could for any skill used.

The side effect of this, unfortunately, is that it wouldn't count for any skills not used. (Meaning the old "Add a DW skill on your Bow bar" to level up both would cease to function.)

Most people make a quest turn in bar/gear for the big stuff. In circumstances like you're talking about, you might just need to rearrange your skills a bit to advance the ones you're after.

On the harder bosses, there's time. On the lesser one's, it less of a big deal.

It averages out pretty quickly, in any case.

WildWilbur

Ladislao wrote: »

XP earned needs to count for EVERY learned skill because I forgot to put them on the bar...

Exactly! And for all skills I MIGHT skill in the future! And all of them morphs of course!

Feanor

I‘m running around Summerset with 3 Psijic utility skills and Undo on my main bar. The game is that easy, so leveling up is easy too. A QoL change would be nice though, as always.

Claudman

Please, I've been waiting for this for years. A bit ridiculous you need to switch bars at the end of a dungeon or something to level that bar up.

neverwalk

want some cheese with that whine ? Grow-up

MerlinPendragon

Leave the current system as is.

DanteYoda

ArchMikem wrote: »

I wasted 250k xp cause my group burned a normal boss and i couldn't bar swap in time...

What i do is.. Play my game on my primary bar all my kills and stuff exp on primary.. When i hand in a quest i flip my bar before talking to the npc.. secondary bar is quest turn ins..

But i agree it would be awesome if both leveled.

Fleshreaper

Not everything should be just given away. Kind of makes sense the way it is. You know, you actually use a spell or skill and you get better at it.

White wabbit

Never had an issue swapping to the correct bar when needed

Kiralyn2000

Fleshreaper wrote: »

Not everything should be just given away. Kind of makes sense the way it is. You know, you actually use a spell or skill and you get better at it.

Well, except, that's not how it works. You can have a rotation that uses both bars, and then have an unrelated weapon skill on bar 1 that you can't use. So, you "actually use" spots 1-4 on your front bar and 1-5 on the back bar.... but when you turn in the quest, you only get XP on 4 skills you "actually used" and one you never did, while the other 5 skills you "actually used" get nothing.

Vaoh

I thought this thread was going to be about your Character Level and Champion System XP bars lol.

Merlin13KAGL

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Fleshreaper wrote: »

Not everything should be just given away. Kind of makes sense the way it is. You know, you actually use a spell or skill and you get better at it.

Well, except, that's not how it works. You can have a rotation that uses both bars, and then have an unrelated weapon skill on bar 1 that you can't use. So, you "actually use" spots 1-4 on your front bar and 1-5 on the back bar.... but when you turn in the quest, you only get XP on 4 skills you "actually used" and one you never did, while the other 5 skills you "actually used" get nothing.

If you want to get down to brass tacks, it would only make sense for skills to level from kills, not quest turn ins at all.

Skill lines, etc would be the recipients of the XP, kills would go for skill advancement.

It's really not that hard to max out any skill, provided you are, in fact, using it.

Swap bars, swap skills, or kill trash. Most people figured this out about their first L20.

It's being made out to be harder than it actually is.

TheInfernalRage

Spent hours today grinding to level my sword and board to 50 and ended up with only 1 morphed skill at Lvl 2 while the rest are maxed out. Doing it on dolmens gave tons of jewelries to deconstruct for mats. After doing something like this for 15 toons, I never really consider this an issue. If I fail to bar swap, or anticipate a bar swap, it's on me. Keep the system as it is.

Syncronaut

Best way to lvl up skills is just to run Alkilir dolments like mad with a bar that you lvls skill on.
There is a addon that lets you change skills quick (out of combat).

Or just daily crafting quests. (or writs)

Cruxanero

If that would be implemented I'm pretty sure they'll implement it so the XP you get now isn't doubled but instead equally distributed between both bars. That means in a situation you only want to level up a few select skills with the current system you have to have them on one bar (which also means potentially having skills from different weapon lines you can't use) but level them up double as fast. If XP counts for both bars though it takes the double time to level things up, but you can conveniently place the skills on each bar and don't have to worry about weapon swapping in time anymore.

To be honest, I'm not so sure I would prefer that. In a situation where you want XP only to apply to at most 5 skills an XP rate cut in half sounds like quite a harsh convenience penalty.

TheShadowScout

Used to be in TES games you actually had to -use- the skill to gain XP for it.

Now you just have to have it on your active bar.

And people ask for more still?
-sighs-

Yes, it would be more convenient. But its not really any sort of big deal if you have half a thought and actually -play- on your back bar instead of entirely relying on switching it just as the XP drops.
And from the looks of it, they keep implementing "more convenient" stuff only if they can make it crown store purchases... so... I say...

nathan_bri

As someone with ten CP750 characters and five more below 50, I assure you that it’s not necessary to let XP gained affect both bars.

Potenza

Its there to slow you down. They don't want you to be able to level up 12 skills at the same time, which would be a thing if rolling a new character.

ArchMikem

neverwalk wrote: »

want some cheese with that whine ? Grow-up

@neverwalk Have any Mozzarella? If you're gonna encourage me to keep whining at your face, might as well enjoy myself.

Davor

TheShadowScout wrote: »

I play a game to have fun and get away from real life. Why is it when after coming from a long day at work, to come and unwind I need to do more work?

ADarklore

It's interesting OP... for as many forum stars as you have, meaning you have been playing this game quite some time, that you still come here to complain about things that have been in the game since forever... because of something YOU did, mind you. I mean, I'm sure they didn't burn the boss down to the point that you couldn't figure out the boss was almost dead (hey, need to swap bars)... but further, where are you are getting 250K XP from a normal boss? I hope you're not counting enlightenment, because I don't believe enlightenment actually counts towards leveling skills.

PlagueSD

Feanor wrote: »

I‘m running around Summerset with 3 Psijic utility skills and Undo on my main bar. The game is that easy, so leveling up is easy too. A QoL change would be nice though, as always.

Yep, I can kill most anything easily by spamming 1 or 2 skills. The other slots are for stuff I'm actively leveling. I did this the other night with all my Psijic skills. Leveled them all up (3 at a time) until they could be morphed.