Please nerf overload.

Pelican

As much as I enjoy going around overloading people for 20k-30k, I think overload is overperforming too much at the moment and needs serious nerfing. A good start would be to not let it be affected by empower or Queen's Elegance set; classify the damage into a skill or something, not a light attack. This will also remove its ability to proc weapon enchantments.

Seriously, I got hundreds of millisecond 25k+ damage ganks in like 5-6 hours of gameplayl. As funny as it is to see 30k HP bars go from 100% to 0 in an instant, its kind of ridiculous that such a thing is possible. Right now overload ganking is not so widespread, highly suggest doing something about it before a ganksorc apocalypse starts.

WaltherCarraway

No worries next patch they will nerf dragonknight instead

Jameliel

Only works on noobs, those unaware, or those low on resources. If you don't like it, stop using it.

red_emu

Soooooo.... nerf Mag Warden then?

Tan9oSuccka

WaltherCarraway wrote: »

No worries next patch they will nerf dragonknight instead

Sounds about right.

Gaggin

Don't call for nerfs on sets, elegance barely has a use outside of this purpose, i would rather just see empower reworked. As it is it's single target reflectable and dodgeable, does about the same smh as shalks when blocked(shalks can't be blocked).

GreenSoup2HoT

to actually see a sorc wanting a nerf to their own class, i thought id never see the day

WaltherCarraway

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

to actually see a sorc wanting a nerf to their own class, i thought id never see the day

A smart one actually, don't forget how zos stripped everything from Templars.

Lord_Eomer

Pelican wrote: »

As much as I enjoy going around overloading people for 20k-30k, I think overload is overperforming too much at the moment and needs serious nerfing. A good start would be to not let it be affected by empower or Queen's Elegance set; classify the damage into a skill or something, not a light attack. This will also remove its ability to proc weapon enchantments.

Seriously, I got hundreds of millisecond 25k+ damage ganks in like 5-6 hours of gameplayl. As funny as it is to see 30k HP bars go from 100% to 0 in an instant, its kind of ridiculous that such a thing is possible. Right now overload ganking is not so widespread, highly suggest doing something about it before a ganksorc apocalypse starts.

You should post complete video,

How would anyone know if you have not made other player to get hit 30k?

Seems like he have 0 damage mitigation!

ADarklore

They have nerfed Overload enough times already!! Taking the Ultimate from 1000 points down to just 500 and countless other times they've nerfed it. Honestly, if this was a huge problem you'd see more people commenting on it, but it's not! Perhaps OP should worry about other things that are a problem in the game, but Overload is NOT one of them! Plus, very few people even wear Queen's Elegance anyway, there are far far better sets to wear... OP just because you play this style and set doesn't mean everyone else does. Thus, it's not a problem worth worrying about.

redshirt_49

NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERF

Ah, honestly this is not that big of a deal. Shouldn't be running around in PvP with poor resist anyway and certainly not into ults without shields.

Strider__Roshin

WaltherCarraway wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

to actually see a sorc wanting a nerf to their own class, i thought id never see the day

A smart one actually, don't forget how zos stripped everything from Templars.

That's because Templars became OP and the forumplars zerged anyone with a dissenting opinion. I warned that they were OP and should get certain issues addressed before they get over nerfed. But no one listened, and guess what? They got nerfed hard, and rightfully so. I didn't agree with the removal of the shard cc though.

Rygonix

ZoS hears your concern, and in response they will nerf BoL by 33%. Again.

LadyLavina

Pelican wrote: »

As much as I enjoy going around overloading people for 20k-30k, I think overload is overperforming too much at the moment and needs serious nerfing. A good start would be to not let it be affected by empower or Queen's Elegance set; classify the damage into a skill or something, not a light attack. This will also remove its ability to proc weapon enchantments.

Seriously, I got hundreds of millisecond 25k+ damage ganks in like 5-6 hours of gameplayl. As funny as it is to see 30k HP bars go from 100% to 0 in an instant, its kind of ridiculous that such a thing is possible. Right now overload ganking is not so widespread, highly suggest doing something about it before a ganksorc apocalypse starts.

nope. OP is delusional or troll lol

DuskMarine

Pelican wrote: »

As much as I enjoy going around overloading people for 20k-30k, I think overload is overperforming too much at the moment and needs serious nerfing. A good start would be to not let it be affected by empower or Queen's Elegance set; classify the damage into a skill or something, not a light attack. This will also remove its ability to proc weapon enchantments.

Seriously, I got hundreds of millisecond 25k+ damage ganks in like 5-6 hours of gameplayl. As funny as it is to see 30k HP bars go from 100% to 0 in an instant, its kind of ridiculous that such a thing is possible. Right now overload ganking is not so widespread, highly suggest doing something about it before a ganksorc apocalypse starts.

ive never gotten hit by overload any harder than 3.2k so somebodys armor was trash compared to the enemies damage output

Alpheu5

It's the same deal as bomb blades. If someone suspects an Overload gank it's extremely easy to counter. Idk why anybody resorts to such a non-versatile style of play.

_Ahala_

red_emu wrote: »

Soooooo.... nerf Mag Warden then?

Nemeliom

Jameliel wrote: »

Only works on noobs, those unaware, or those low on resources. If you don't like it, stop using it.

Not true. I have stream ganked almost every pro player with that build. Even Fengrush when he groups with other 4 players.
But I got bored with that build. Too easy to kill and doesn't bring the same satisfaction as killing someone after a real fight.

Thogard

Jameliel wrote: »

Only works on noobs, those unaware, or those low on resources. If you don't like it, stop using it.

this was the case until rune cage/prison.

Defensive rune is the worst. Sorc just waits until you attack them then hits you with the light attack the instant their defensive rune activates.

WaltherCarraway

Nemeliom wrote: »

Jameliel wrote: »

Only works on noobs, those unaware, or those low on resources. If you don't like it, stop using it.

Not true. I have stream ganked almost every pro player with that build. Even Fengrush when he groups with other 4 players.
But I got bored with that build. Too easy to kill and doesn't bring the same satisfaction as killing someone after a real fight.

-magsorc
-real fight

lol

zaria

WaltherCarraway wrote: »

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

to actually see a sorc wanting a nerf to their own class, i thought id never see the day

A smart one actually, don't forget how zos stripped everything from Templars.

Still, asking for nerfs is like asking for close air support from the death star.
Good chance they make it totally useless

Asmael

@Pelican This is the forums, leave logic and any sense of balance at the entrance. Also vids are more explicit.

As for the rest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tuzk7Tz9o4

Remember, all you need to do is dodge roll or block and *gets Rune Cage'd* Ah dam***.

@Lord_Dexter Blobs tested an OL gank build on a 3k crit resist, capped spell resist, 29k HP DK below, check 10:20 for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-cPRixbceE

Banana

Wheres my class change.

Alpheu5

Asmael wrote: »

@Pelican This is the forums, leave logic and any sense of balance at the entrance. Also vids are more explicit.

As for the rest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tuzk7Tz9o4

Remember, all you need to do is dodge roll or block and *gets Rune Cage'd* Ah dam***.

@Lord_Dexter Blobs tested an OL gank build on a 3k crit resist, capped spell resist, 29k HP DK below, check 10:20 for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-cPRixbceE

Blob's video was posted on April 26th, and he was using Elemental Weapons with the Overload attacks when they were still compatible on the PTS. They removed the ability to pair them with the May 7th patch.

This is why you don't post build videos so early in an update's development.

Zer0oo

The problem is not overload per se, it is more how stealth works in this game.
Players can literally not see the other player and therefore can not react fast enough. (Thx to miats nerf)
Also the counters to someone sneaking in a open field in cyro is almost zero.

If they nerf overload, something else will just replace it. (asylum bow, heavy attack,incap,.....)

VexingArcanist

Zer0oo wrote: »

The problem is not overload per se, it is more how stealth works in this game.
Players can literally not see the other player and therefore can not react fast enough. (Thx to miats nerf)
Also the counters to someone sneaking in a open field in cyro is almost zero.

If they nerf overload, something else will just replace it. (asylum bow, heavy attack,incap,.....)

So you are saying you need to dodge roll from mount, you need to clearly be able to see players behind you in a pack running you down and dodge roll the precise single incoming attack of several attacks, in a BG vs 8 other players you are bad if you don't see it coming, so yeah........dodge you noobs, dodge.

Drummerx04

I could have sworn the patch notes said overload light attacks will not be empowered by "Empower"

GlorphNoldorin

Some of the responses to countering this build are ..........laughable. Clearly showing the person saying them has never encountered this build.

VexingArcanist

GlorphNoldorin wrote: »

Some of the responses to countering this build are ..........laughable. Clearly showing the person saying them has never encountered this build.

I refer to them as Tooltip Jockeys. Those who point out how balanced things are because the tooltip says they are.

WuffyCerulei

Probs with a bunch of buffs and on unaware noobs. Just because ya get killed by something like Overload, it doesn't necessarily need to be nerfed. It'd take a particular build with several buffs, on sorcs only. Not everyone on every class can use such a build.

Juhasow

Pelican wrote: »

As much as I enjoy going around overloading people for 20k-30k, I think overload is overperforming too much at the moment and needs serious nerfing. A good start would be to not let it be affected by empower or Queen's Elegance set; classify the damage into a skill or something, not a light attack. This will also remove its ability to proc weapon enchantments.

Seriously, I got hundreds of millisecond 25k+ damage ganks in like 5-6 hours of gameplayl. As funny as it is to see 30k HP bars go from 100% to 0 in an instant, its kind of ridiculous that such a thing is possible. Right now overload ganking is not so widespread, highly suggest doing something about it before a ganksorc apocalypse starts.

Just relax. It's not like overload ganker is something new that camed out with Summerset. Elegant+Spinner/Necropotence is pretty old setup same as overload ganking idea. Yes it got slight buffs this update thx for minor force from psijic order and additional dmg from empower but at the end that will just add 3-4k more dmg on targets that would die anyway without that. It's not like this build allows to kill anyone anytime. It's situational and those 30k screen shots are possible only to make on unbuffed targets caught off guard. It's nothing different from builds like 2h ulti magblade ganker or bow heavy attack stamblade ganker. I would even say from all of them magsorc overload ganker is the less effective one.

Those nightblade builds got nerfs this one will be nerfed propably too. There will be no "ganksorc apocalypse". Like I said build is already knows from quite some time so apocalyspe would already happen. There was no apocalypse for 2h ulti magblade there will be no apocalyspe for overload magsorc.

Those builds are funny but have few issues. First is mentioned above situationality , second is fact that they're quickly getting boring. As funny as it is to get easy kills after some time it's just getting boring for most of the people that are looking for competitive gameplay. That makes this build working on longer term only for tryhards and some newbish players that are looking for easy kills but since they suck at game and have little understanding about it many times they'll try to gank someone who is buffed which ends up badly for them so they'll say "screw it , zerging people down was much funnier , I am going back to it"

On the other hand we have Sload. Set that allows creation of setup on any class , magicka or stamina , so we wont have to level up a magsorc just to get kills. It is also crafted set so we wont have to spend any time on farming it. Setup that includes Sload allows to take adventages agaisnt all defenses including the ones that overload is weak against like high resistances , roll dodge , block , reflect etc. It's not situational it'll always work the same where overload gank requires some conditions to take full advantage from using it. Sload doesnt require any specific combo or any specific build variations to be effective You can just add it to currently existing setup and it'll work which makes it basicly usefull tool for everyone. This is why if we'll see any apocalypse during this update it'll be not "ganksorc apocalypse" but more likely Sload apocalypse.