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Slayer of Sloads, a PVP build for Summerset
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Summerset is here, and with it comes Sloads Semblance, a set that has been bringing the pain throughout Cyrodil and in Battlegrounds.
For better or for worse it seems like it will remain un-nerfed for the foreseeable future, and thus the QQ will continue. Now as a disclaimer, I might have been listening to a tad much Powerwolf in the lead up to writing the rest of this, so you may have to bear with me.
So without further ado, I present to you the Sload Slayer:
Now I will preface this by saying that this build is optimised for the holy land of no-CP Battlegrounds, though it will work just fine in CP PVP if you actually allocate points, so don’t ask.
First off let’s look at our choice of character. We are picking Stamplar here because on the 11th of May 1189 The Knights Templar joined in the Third Crusade to take back the Holy Land, and we want that sort of legacy. Templar is also the only class with access to a decent Cleanse, but that is less important.
Race wise, I’d say all races are equal and anyone claiming otherwise is a bigot and should be shunned. But personally I go with Imperial
Now the sets.
Shacklebreaker breaks the chains of the oppressive Sloads meta, and blesses us with a large Magicka pool to let us continually cleanse the taint of our opponents. It also gives us plenty of Stamina to continue our holy crusade.
Seventh Legion grants us access to the blessing of our fellow knights in constant heals, alongside granting us the power to smite the unholy abominations befouling the battlefield.
Troll King is pretty interchangable with Bloospawn, both make you tanky and give you sustain, but Troll King is a more direct foil to the Oblivion damage of Sloads. Also insert a witty comment here.
Of course we are going to go with Sword and Shield alongside a Greatsword. The shield is to protect us from the blasphemers, and the Greatsword is there to smite them. Nirnhoned for maximum damage, Infused for boosting weapon damage enchant, and Sturdy for a bit of block cost reduction.
Now I know that many of you are confused at this point, I’ve just given a pretty simple setup, nothing fancy there, and I am sure that many of you have run some of these things yourself. But like many things, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts, so all of you Nightblade mains, sit still for a second and listen.
Sloads is strong because it negates healing. The constant oblivion damage cannot be mitigated, so it will chip away at your effective healing per second, meaning that you need to pop heals more frequently, and when you do, they are less effective. When combined with a source of defile, this effect becomes even more pronounced. Your 3k healing per second drops to 600 or so when hit with the combo, and as any veteran PVPer knows, 600 heals per second is nothing.
So how do you combo this? The answer is simple. Remove the effects, stack more healing and get tanky.
This build accomplishes all three.
Firstly we have Extended Ritual to cleanse up to 5 negative effects. Pairing this with Forward Momentum is also helpful, as it means that we cannot be snared or immobilised, and thus we never have to purge those effects. Secondly we have a lot of healing. Vigor, Forward Momentum, Extended Ritual, Seventh Legion, Troll King and Imperial Passives all add up to a huge amount of healing per second, especially when paired with Mending, Vitality and heavy armour passives, all of which we have access to. Finally while we are not the tankiest build in the world, we still have strong defenses with heavy armour, block and Protection.
Despite all of this, if you lack the skills needed, you can have the best build in the world, and still lose out. So how do you play it out?
Firstly, you are going to want to maintain Forward Momentum, and Focus, these need to be up all the time. Secondly, you are going to want to meter out your purges. Wait for the enemies Sloads and Defile to proc, then cleanse. Despite having Shacklebreaker, we can’t mindlessly spam Ritual, so you need to get value out of it.
From there you have your offense. POTL > Javelin, Stampede, Jabs is your bread and butter. Dawnbreaker as needed.
Shield wall is there to combo with Meditate. Because nothing is more troll than stopping in the middle of combat to pray while your opponent wails away at you dealing negative damage. Just watch out for interrupts.
FAQ:
For better or for worse it seems like it will remain un-nerfed for the foreseeable future, and thus the QQ will continue. Now as a disclaimer, I might have been listening to a tad much Powerwolf in the lead up to writing the rest of this, so you may have to bear with me.
So without further ado, I present to you the Sload Slayer:
Now I will preface this by saying that this build is optimised for the holy land of no-CP Battlegrounds, though it will work just fine in CP PVP if you actually allocate points, so don’t ask.
First off let’s look at our choice of character. We are picking Stamplar here because on the 11th of May 1189 The Knights Templar joined in the Third Crusade to take back the Holy Land, and we want that sort of legacy. Templar is also the only class with access to a decent Cleanse, but that is less important.
Race wise, I’d say all races are equal and anyone claiming otherwise is a bigot and should be shunned. But personally I go with Imperial
Now the sets.
Shacklebreaker breaks the chains of the oppressive Sloads meta, and blesses us with a large Magicka pool to let us continually cleanse the taint of our opponents. It also gives us plenty of Stamina to continue our holy crusade.
Seventh Legion grants us access to the blessing of our fellow knights in constant heals, alongside granting us the power to smite the unholy abominations befouling the battlefield.
Troll King is pretty interchangable with Bloospawn, both make you tanky and give you sustain, but Troll King is a more direct foil to the Oblivion damage of Sloads. Also insert a witty comment here.
Of course we are going to go with Sword and Shield alongside a Greatsword. The shield is to protect us from the blasphemers, and the Greatsword is there to smite them. Nirnhoned for maximum damage, Infused for boosting weapon damage enchant, and Sturdy for a bit of block cost reduction.
Now I know that many of you are confused at this point, I’ve just given a pretty simple setup, nothing fancy there, and I am sure that many of you have run some of these things yourself. But like many things, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts, so all of you Nightblade mains, sit still for a second and listen.
Sloads is strong because it negates healing. The constant oblivion damage cannot be mitigated, so it will chip away at your effective healing per second, meaning that you need to pop heals more frequently, and when you do, they are less effective. When combined with a source of defile, this effect becomes even more pronounced. Your 3k healing per second drops to 600 or so when hit with the combo, and as any veteran PVPer knows, 600 heals per second is nothing.
So how do you combo this? The answer is simple. Remove the effects, stack more healing and get tanky.
This build accomplishes all three.
Firstly we have Extended Ritual to cleanse up to 5 negative effects. Pairing this with Forward Momentum is also helpful, as it means that we cannot be snared or immobilised, and thus we never have to purge those effects. Secondly we have a lot of healing. Vigor, Forward Momentum, Extended Ritual, Seventh Legion, Troll King and Imperial Passives all add up to a huge amount of healing per second, especially when paired with Mending, Vitality and heavy armour passives, all of which we have access to. Finally while we are not the tankiest build in the world, we still have strong defenses with heavy armour, block and Protection.
Despite all of this, if you lack the skills needed, you can have the best build in the world, and still lose out. So how do you play it out?
Firstly, you are going to want to maintain Forward Momentum, and Focus, these need to be up all the time. Secondly, you are going to want to meter out your purges. Wait for the enemies Sloads and Defile to proc, then cleanse. Despite having Shacklebreaker, we can’t mindlessly spam Ritual, so you need to get value out of it.
From there you have your offense. POTL > Javelin, Stampede, Jabs is your bread and butter. Dawnbreaker as needed.
Shield wall is there to combo with Meditate. Because nothing is more troll than stopping in the middle of combat to pray while your opponent wails away at you dealing negative damage. Just watch out for interrupts.
FAQ:
Why not Magplar?
Because I want to do more than spam breath of life
Will this work on Nightblade?
No
Will this work on DK?
No
I thought you were a Stam Sorc player?
Yes
Can I use this other set and still have the build work
If you did it wouldn’t be this build anymore would it?
Is *insert race here* a viable option?
Yes, but Imperial is better.
Your sustain looks bad
Base regen is a tad low yes, but you can run more regen on jewellery if you need it. Meditate and Heavy attack weaving does a pretty good job of covering it up too. Repentence is another option, but is less good in the 1v1.
Can I go Medium?
No, heavy armour passives are too good to give up.
Why Javelin over Reverb?
Ranged CC and the passives are worth more IMO. But Reverb is a strong option if you want to run it.
I still died to 20 people using Sloads, your build sucks!
Don’t fight 20 people with Sloads you dongus.
Why is there no video?
Because Path of Exile exists.
Does this work in CP?
Yes, if you allocate them.
What CP should I use?
250 in the Red tree, 250 in the Green tree and 250 in the Blue tree
Your stats are better than mine
Using fully buffed stats in the screenshot, with full gold gear. Yes, it is clickbaity, but even with purple gear the build works just fine.
Because I want to do more than spam breath of life
Will this work on Nightblade?
No
Will this work on DK?
No
I thought you were a Stam Sorc player?
Yes
Can I use this other set and still have the build work
If you did it wouldn’t be this build anymore would it?
Is *insert race here* a viable option?
Yes, but Imperial is better.
Your sustain looks bad
Base regen is a tad low yes, but you can run more regen on jewellery if you need it. Meditate and Heavy attack weaving does a pretty good job of covering it up too. Repentence is another option, but is less good in the 1v1.
Can I go Medium?
No, heavy armour passives are too good to give up.
Why Javelin over Reverb?
Ranged CC and the passives are worth more IMO. But Reverb is a strong option if you want to run it.
I still died to 20 people using Sloads, your build sucks!
Don’t fight 20 people with Sloads you dongus.
Why is there no video?
Because Path of Exile exists.
Does this work in CP?
Yes, if you allocate them.
What CP should I use?
250 in the Red tree, 250 in the Green tree and 250 in the Blue tree
Your stats are better than mine
Using fully buffed stats in the screenshot, with full gold gear. Yes, it is clickbaity, but even with purple gear the build works just fine.
Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
I play a character called "Gives Me Wood Elf" because I am a mature and sensible person.
Stam Sorc main in Battlegrounds
I play a character called "Gives Me Wood Elf" because I am a mature and sensible person.
Stam Sorc main in Battlegrounds
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✭Briarheart might be another set to consider for this type of play. Seventh/brairheart/troll king is really nice, but I run shacklebreaker/briarheart for more resources rn.PC/NA
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✭✭Briarheart might be another set to consider for this type of play. Seventh/brairheart/troll king is really nice, but I run shacklebreaker/briarheart for more resources rn.
Seventh over Briarheart here because the statline is better. You get more healing with Seventh, especially vs Sloads builds which tend to make use of a bunch of DOTs. Plus, our base crit is pretty low, so out uptime on Briarheart is going to jut feel pretty bad.
Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
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✭Briarheart might be another set to consider for this type of play. Seventh/brairheart/troll king is really nice, but I run shacklebreaker/briarheart for more resources rn.
Seventh over Briarheart here because the statline is better. You get more healing with Seventh, especially vs Sloads builds which tend to make use of a bunch of DOTs. Plus, our base crit is pretty low, so out uptime on Briarheart is going to jut feel pretty bad.
Agreed, I run briarheart because I didn't want the buff dependent on getting hit, but for anti sload seventh definitely makes more sense.Edited by TBois on June 4, 2018 10:15PMPC/NA
T-Bois (Stam Sorc since 1.4) - AD
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Sixty5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Briarheart might be another set to consider for this type of play. Seventh/brairheart/troll king is really nice, but I run shacklebreaker/briarheart for more resources rn.
Seventh over Briarheart here because the statline is better. You get more healing with Seventh, especially vs Sloads builds which tend to make use of a bunch of DOTs. Plus, our base crit is pretty low, so out uptime on Briarheart is going to jut feel pretty bad.
Agreed, I run briarheart because I didn't want the buff dependent on getting hit, but for anti sload seventh definitely makes more sense.
I feel like Briarheart has more potential on something that utilises bleeds more than anything, just because you'd be getting more value out of the heal.
IIRC a friend of mine runs Briarheart + Truth on a Werewolf Stam Sorc, and it ends up being a pretty disgusting setupLord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
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Sordidfairytale✭✭✭✭✭What CP should I use?
250 in the Red tree, 250 in the Green tree and 250 in the Blue tree
I really liked this build and enjoyed the post, up until I saw this cookie cutter BS.
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"if the skeleton kills you, your dps is too low." ~STEVIL
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✭✭Sordidfairytale wrote: »
Hey, I rock No-CP personally, I'm just giving a meta setup for all the scrubs out there who need itLord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
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ArtOfShred✭✭✭"First off let’s look at our choice of character. We are picking Stamplar here because on the 11th of May 1189 The Knights Templar joined in the Third Crusade to take back the Holy Land, and we want that sort of legacy."
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✭✭✭✭✭This is pretty much what I ran on my Templar last as stamina. Except I was running hundings in stead of shacklebreaker. I was thinking of putting it on my sorc and just try to outpace the damage with heals, or on NB and forgo cloak/ live without it working while still having the best ultimate spammable in game.
Running my Templar; I find that there’s so many DOTs that even with 5 effects removed; you may not get sloads or defile off you , or they just get reapplied. Best defense has become good offense and getting out of the line of fire0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭This is pretty much what I ran on my Templar last as stamina. Except I was running hundings in stead of shacklebreaker. I was thinking of putting it on my sorc and just try to outpace the damage with heals, or on NB and forgo cloak/ live without it working while still having the best ultimate spammable in game.
Running my Templar; I find that there’s so many DOTs that even with 5 effects removed; you may not get sloads or defile off you , or they just get reapplied. Best defense has become good offense and getting out of the line of fire
Swift and repositioning with good heals is going to be the counter to this crap.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Sixty5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This is pretty much what I ran on my Templar last as stamina. Except I was running hundings in stead of shacklebreaker. I was thinking of putting it on my sorc and just try to outpace the damage with heals, or on NB and forgo cloak/ live without it working while still having the best ultimate spammable in game.
Running my Templar; I find that there’s so many DOTs that even with 5 effects removed; you may not get sloads or defile off you , or they just get reapplied. Best defense has become good offense and getting out of the line of fire
I find that vs heavy dot stacking you sometimes do need a double purge. You also definitely want to make sure you are running Forward Momentum as well, I initially had Rally for more meme level heals, but I was having trouble reliably removing defile + sloads. Once I had snares out of the picture, I basically halved the number of effects on me at any given time.
The thing that people miss about Sloads/Duroks builds is that they don't actually do massive amounts of damage on their own, so even while dealing with multiple effects, I tend to be able to live through most stuff.
Red Diamond is actually kinda stupid on this build, given it can proc off jabs.
The problem with Sorc is that you really can't get the same level of healing as Templar can in no-CP, while still retaining a properly balanced build. I feel Surge needs 35% crit or so to start to feel good healing wise, and even then it needs to be combo'd with dots. Plus with no way to remove defile and no increased healing buffs (beyond slotting encase), you end up feeling a lot squishier on a stam sorc.
Honestly I wanted to play Stam Sorc, but it's just felt bad to me this update. Dunno why.Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
I play a character called "Gives Me Wood Elf" because I am a mature and sensible person.
Stam Sorc main in Battlegrounds1 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This is pretty much what I ran on my Templar last as stamina. Except I was running hundings in stead of shacklebreaker. I was thinking of putting it on my sorc and just try to outpace the damage with heals, or on NB and forgo cloak/ live without it working while still having the best ultimate spammable in game.
Running my Templar; I find that there’s so many DOTs that even with 5 effects removed; you may not get sloads or defile off you , or they just get reapplied. Best defense has become good offense and getting out of the line of fire
I find that vs heavy dot stacking you sometimes do need a double purge. You also definitely want to make sure you are running Forward Momentum as well, I initially had Rally for more meme level heals, but I was having trouble reliably removing defile + sloads. Once I had snares out of the picture, I basically halved the number of effects on me at any given time.
The thing that people miss about Sloads/Duroks builds is that they don't actually do massive amounts of damage on their own, so even while dealing with multiple effects, I tend to be able to live through most stuff.
Red Diamond is actually kinda stupid on this build, given it can proc off jabs.
The problem with Sorc is that you really can't get the same level of healing as Templar can in no-CP, while still retaining a properly balanced build. I feel Surge needs 35% crit or so to start to feel good healing wise, and even then it needs to be combo'd with dots. Plus with no way to remove defile and no increased healing buffs (beyond slotting encase), you end up feeling a lot squishier on a stam sorc.
Honestly I wanted to play Stam Sorc, but it's just felt bad to me this update. Dunno why.
We confirm red diamond works on jabs? It looked like to me it still wasn't and only thing coming in was the heal on light attacks and CP crit heal.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Sixty5✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This is pretty much what I ran on my Templar last as stamina. Except I was running hundings in stead of shacklebreaker. I was thinking of putting it on my sorc and just try to outpace the damage with heals, or on NB and forgo cloak/ live without it working while still having the best ultimate spammable in game.
Running my Templar; I find that there’s so many DOTs that even with 5 effects removed; you may not get sloads or defile off you , or they just get reapplied. Best defense has become good offense and getting out of the line of fire
I find that vs heavy dot stacking you sometimes do need a double purge. You also definitely want to make sure you are running Forward Momentum as well, I initially had Rally for more meme level heals, but I was having trouble reliably removing defile + sloads. Once I had snares out of the picture, I basically halved the number of effects on me at any given time.
The thing that people miss about Sloads/Duroks builds is that they don't actually do massive amounts of damage on their own, so even while dealing with multiple effects, I tend to be able to live through most stuff.
Red Diamond is actually kinda stupid on this build, given it can proc off jabs.
The problem with Sorc is that you really can't get the same level of healing as Templar can in no-CP, while still retaining a properly balanced build. I feel Surge needs 35% crit or so to start to feel good healing wise, and even then it needs to be combo'd with dots. Plus with no way to remove defile and no increased healing buffs (beyond slotting encase), you end up feeling a lot squishier on a stam sorc.
Honestly I wanted to play Stam Sorc, but it's just felt bad to me this update. Dunno why.
We confirm red diamond works on jabs? It looked like to me it still wasn't and only thing coming in was the heal on light attacks and CP crit heal.
can confirm
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Jimmy_The_Fixer✭✭✭✭✭This is just a meta build right? I'm just seeing a pretty standard stamplar running standard sets and standard abilities.
It'll work, and function well, things tend to be meta for a reason.0 -
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✭✭✭✭This is pretty much what I ran on my Templar last as stamina. Except I was running hundings in stead of shacklebreaker. I was thinking of putting it on my sorc and just try to outpace the damage with heals, or on NB and forgo cloak/ live without it working while still having the best ultimate spammable in game.
Running my Templar; I find that there’s so many DOTs that even with 5 effects removed; you may not get sloads or defile off you , or they just get reapplied. Best defense has become good offense and getting out of the line of fire
I find that vs heavy dot stacking you sometimes do need a double purge. You also definitely want to make sure you are running Forward Momentum as well, I initially had Rally for more meme level heals, but I was having trouble reliably removing defile + sloads. Once I had snares out of the picture, I basically halved the number of effects on me at any given time.
The thing that people miss about Sloads/Duroks builds is that they don't actually do massive amounts of damage on their own, so even while dealing with multiple effects, I tend to be able to live through most stuff.
Red Diamond is actually kinda stupid on this build, given it can proc off jabs.
The problem with Sorc is that you really can't get the same level of healing as Templar can in no-CP, while still retaining a properly balanced build. I feel Surge needs 35% crit or so to start to feel good healing wise, and even then it needs to be combo'd with dots. Plus with no way to remove defile and no increased healing buffs (beyond slotting encase), you end up feeling a lot squishier on a stam sorc.
Honestly I wanted to play Stam Sorc, but it's just felt bad to me this update. Dunno why.
We confirm red diamond works on jabs? It looked like to me it still wasn't and only thing coming in was the heal on light attacks and CP crit heal.
can confirm
In my testing eons ago @Minno, Red Diamond could not proc on Biting Jabs but it could proc on Burning Light. This may or may not still be the case in this example, hard to say without isolated testing.
Nice build, OP. Stamplar is going to shine like the sun in a Sload's meta. Stamplar nerfs incoming
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✭✭This is pretty much what I ran on my Templar last as stamina. Except I was running hundings in stead of shacklebreaker. I was thinking of putting it on my sorc and just try to outpace the damage with heals, or on NB and forgo cloak/ live without it working while still having the best ultimate spammable in game.
Running my Templar; I find that there’s so many DOTs that even with 5 effects removed; you may not get sloads or defile off you , or they just get reapplied. Best defense has become good offense and getting out of the line of fire
I find that vs heavy dot stacking you sometimes do need a double purge. You also definitely want to make sure you are running Forward Momentum as well, I initially had Rally for more meme level heals, but I was having trouble reliably removing defile + sloads. Once I had snares out of the picture, I basically halved the number of effects on me at any given time.
The thing that people miss about Sloads/Duroks builds is that they don't actually do massive amounts of damage on their own, so even while dealing with multiple effects, I tend to be able to live through most stuff.
Red Diamond is actually kinda stupid on this build, given it can proc off jabs.
The problem with Sorc is that you really can't get the same level of healing as Templar can in no-CP, while still retaining a properly balanced build. I feel Surge needs 35% crit or so to start to feel good healing wise, and even then it needs to be combo'd with dots. Plus with no way to remove defile and no increased healing buffs (beyond slotting encase), you end up feeling a lot squishier on a stam sorc.
Honestly I wanted to play Stam Sorc, but it's just felt bad to me this update. Dunno why.
We confirm red diamond works on jabs? It looked like to me it still wasn't and only thing coming in was the heal on light attacks and CP crit heal.
can confirm
In my testing eons ago @Minno, Red Diamond could not proc on Biting Jabs but it could proc on Burning Light. This may or may not still be the case in this example, hard to say without isolated testing.
Nice build, OP. Stamplar is going to shine like the sun in a Sload's meta. Stamplar nerfs incoming
I'd say that it is proccing off of jabs, given that my luck is nowhere near good enough to get 4 10% procs off of 6 Burning light procs.
If I had to guess, I would say it is proccing off both.
Basically, once you start going ham on a dude with Jabs you just get a bunch of healing.Jimmy_The_Fixer wrote: »This is just a meta build right? I'm just seeing a pretty standard stamplar running standard sets and standard abilities.
It'll work, and function well, things tend to be meta for a reason.
Everything in this build is meta, or has been meta at some point. It's just putting it together in a way that beats other meta builds that makes it interesting.Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
I play a character called "Gives Me Wood Elf" because I am a mature and sensible person.
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Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This is pretty much what I ran on my Templar last as stamina. Except I was running hundings in stead of shacklebreaker. I was thinking of putting it on my sorc and just try to outpace the damage with heals, or on NB and forgo cloak/ live without it working while still having the best ultimate spammable in game.
Running my Templar; I find that there’s so many DOTs that even with 5 effects removed; you may not get sloads or defile off you , or they just get reapplied. Best defense has become good offense and getting out of the line of fire
I find that vs heavy dot stacking you sometimes do need a double purge. You also definitely want to make sure you are running Forward Momentum as well, I initially had Rally for more meme level heals, but I was having trouble reliably removing defile + sloads. Once I had snares out of the picture, I basically halved the number of effects on me at any given time.
The thing that people miss about Sloads/Duroks builds is that they don't actually do massive amounts of damage on their own, so even while dealing with multiple effects, I tend to be able to live through most stuff.
Red Diamond is actually kinda stupid on this build, given it can proc off jabs.
The problem with Sorc is that you really can't get the same level of healing as Templar can in no-CP, while still retaining a properly balanced build. I feel Surge needs 35% crit or so to start to feel good healing wise, and even then it needs to be combo'd with dots. Plus with no way to remove defile and no increased healing buffs (beyond slotting encase), you end up feeling a lot squishier on a stam sorc.
Honestly I wanted to play Stam Sorc, but it's just felt bad to me this update. Dunno why.
We confirm red diamond works on jabs? It looked like to me it still wasn't and only thing coming in was the heal on light attacks and CP crit heal.
can confirm
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✭✭✭✭Good stuff as always sir.
My only point of contention is that Troll King most certainly is not even in the same realm as Bloodspawn. In the current meta Troll King is by far the single most impactful defensive set in the entire game. This is because of its bug that allows it to ignore defiles combined with the fact that works as a soft counter for sload.
Edit: No Artaeum Takeaway Broth? You’d be able to run either another Robust ring or an Infused and still have enough health.Edited by Lexxypwns on June 7, 2018 3:56PM1 -
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✭✭Good stuff as always sir.
My only point of contention is that Troll King most certainly is not even in the same realm as Bloodspawn. In the current meta Troll King is by far the single most impactful defensive set in the entire game. This is because of its bug that allows it to ignore defiles combined with the fact that works as a soft counter for sload.
Edit: No Artaeum Takeaway Broth? You’d be able to run either another Robust ring or an Infused and still have enough health.
The reason I list Bloodspawn alongside Troll King is because I feel they are interchangeable depending on the situation.
Troll King is by far the better set for this builds intended purpose, so that's why it is on the gear breakdown.
Bloodspawn on the other hand is the more offensive choice if you are playing against people you know aren't very good.
As far as food goes, I had a tricky time deciding personally. The Broth is probably better, but I haven't been able to rum with it to say for sure.
Lava foot on the other hand gives the most possible damage and sustain, without me having to transmute all my jewellery.
Though honestly it's all pretty interchangeable. You can actually pretty easily go 3 infused with Jewels of Misrule too for more sustain.Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
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✭✭✭✭10/10 writeup.
Shacklebreaker isn't going to counter Sloads in any meaningful way, though. You'll squeeze out one more purge, it'll instantly reapply. Woo.Thrice Empress, Forever Scrub1 -
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✭✭DeadlyRecluse wrote: »10/10 writeup.
Shacklebreaker isn't going to counter Sloads in any meaningful way, though. You'll squeeze out one more purge, it'll instantly reapply. Woo.
It's not meant to let you spam purge. It's meant to let you sustain spaced purges, and get an extra one in if you need it.
Sloads has a 6 second cooldown, so there is no need to spam purge.
Defile still hurts, but you have unethical amounts of healing to mitigate that, and given that you give up damage focused 5 pieces to run Duroks and Sloads, the threat an enemy running them poses drops way downLord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
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✭✭✭✭✭DeadlyRecluse wrote: »10/10 writeup.
Shacklebreaker isn't going to counter Sloads in any meaningful way, though. You'll squeeze out one more purge, it'll instantly reapply. Woo.
It's not meant to let you spam purge. It's meant to let you sustain spaced purges, and get an extra one in if you need it.
Sloads has a 6 second cooldown, so there is no need to spam purge.
Defile still hurts, but you have unethical amounts of healing to mitigate that, and given that you give up damage focused 5 pieces to run Duroks and Sloads, the threat an enemy running them poses drops way down
I’m wondering if the cool down on Sloads is broken. When I’ve run into it; including from DeadlyRecluse; I used extended ritual and it was right back on.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Sloads has a 6 second cooldown, so there is no need to spam purge.
Would be nice if it were true.DeadlyRecluse wrote: »10/10 writeup.
Shacklebreaker isn't going to counter Sloads in any meaningful way, though. You'll squeeze out one more purge, it'll instantly reapply. Woo.
It's not meant to let you spam purge. It's meant to let you sustain spaced purges, and get an extra one in if you need it.
Sloads has a 6 second cooldown, so there is no need to spam purge.
Defile still hurts, but you have unethical amounts of healing to mitigate that, and given that you give up damage focused 5 pieces to run Duroks and Sloads, the threat an enemy running them poses drops way down
I’m wondering if the cool down on Sloads is broken. When I’ve run into it; including from DeadlyRecluse; I used extended ritual and it was right back on.
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lionofjudah7✭✭✭Summerset is here, and with it comes Sloads Semblance, a set that has been bringing the pain throughout Cyrodil and in Battlegrounds.
For better or for worse it seems like it will remain un-nerfed for the foreseeable future, and thus the QQ will continue. Now as a disclaimer, I might have been listening to a tad much Powerwolf in the lead up to writing the rest of this, so you may have to bear with me.
So without further ado, I present to you the Sload Slayer:
Now I will preface this by saying that this build is optimised for the holy land of no-CP Battlegrounds, though it will work just fine in CP PVP if you actually allocate points, so don’t ask.
First off let’s look at our choice of character. We are picking Stamplar here because on the 11th of May 1189 The Knights Templar joined in the Third Crusade to take back the Holy Land, and we want that sort of legacy. Templar is also the only class with access to a decent Cleanse, but that is less important.
Race wise, I’d say all races are equal and anyone claiming otherwise is a bigot and should be shunned. But personally I go with Imperial
Now the sets.
Shacklebreaker breaks the chains of the oppressive Sloads meta, and blesses us with a large Magicka pool to let us continually cleanse the taint of our opponents. It also gives us plenty of Stamina to continue our holy crusade.
Seventh Legion grants us access to the blessing of our fellow knights in constant heals, alongside granting us the power to smite the unholy abominations befouling the battlefield.
Troll King is pretty interchangable with Bloospawn, both make you tanky and give you sustain, but Troll King is a more direct foil to the Oblivion damage of Sloads. Also insert a witty comment here.
Of course we are going to go with Sword and Shield alongside a Greatsword. The shield is to protect us from the blasphemers, and the Greatsword is there to smite them. Nirnhoned for maximum damage, Infused for boosting weapon damage enchant, and Sturdy for a bit of block cost reduction.
Now I know that many of you are confused at this point, I’ve just given a pretty simple setup, nothing fancy there, and I am sure that many of you have run some of these things yourself. But like many things, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts, so all of you Nightblade mains, sit still for a second and listen.
Sloads is strong because it negates healing. The constant oblivion damage cannot be mitigated, so it will chip away at your effective healing per second, meaning that you need to pop heals more frequently, and when you do, they are less effective. When combined with a source of defile, this effect becomes even more pronounced. Your 3k healing per second drops to 600 or so when hit with the combo, and as any veteran PVPer knows, 600 heals per second is nothing.
So how do you combo this? The answer is simple. Remove the effects, stack more healing and get tanky.
This build accomplishes all three.
Firstly we have Extended Ritual to cleanse up to 5 negative effects. Pairing this with Forward Momentum is also helpful, as it means that we cannot be snared or immobilised, and thus we never have to purge those effects. Secondly we have a lot of healing. Vigor, Forward Momentum, Extended Ritual, Seventh Legion, Troll King and Imperial Passives all add up to a huge amount of healing per second, especially when paired with Mending, Vitality and heavy armour passives, all of which we have access to. Finally while we are not the tankiest build in the world, we still have strong defenses with heavy armour, block and Protection.
Despite all of this, if you lack the skills needed, you can have the best build in the world, and still lose out. So how do you play it out?
Firstly, you are going to want to maintain Forward Momentum, and Focus, these need to be up all the time. Secondly, you are going to want to meter out your purges. Wait for the enemies Sloads and Defile to proc, then cleanse. Despite having Shacklebreaker, we can’t mindlessly spam Ritual, so you need to get value out of it.
From there you have your offense. POTL > Javelin, Stampede, Jabs is your bread and butter. Dawnbreaker as needed.
Shield wall is there to combo with Meditate. Because nothing is more troll than stopping in the middle of combat to pray while your opponent wails away at you dealing negative damage. Just watch out for interrupts.
FAQ:Why not Magplar?
Because I want to do more than spam breath of life
Will this work on Nightblade?
No
Will this work on DK?
No
I thought you were a Stam Sorc player?
Yes
Can I use this other set and still have the build work
If you did it wouldn’t be this build anymore would it?
Is *insert race here* a viable option?
Yes, but Imperial is better.
Your sustain looks bad
Base regen is a tad low yes, but you can run more regen on jewellery if you need it. Meditate and Heavy attack weaving does a pretty good job of covering it up too. Repentence is another option, but is less good in the 1v1.
Can I go Medium?
No, heavy armour passives are too good to give up.
Why Javelin over Reverb?
Ranged CC and the passives are worth more IMO. But Reverb is a strong option if you want to run it.
I still died to 20 people using Sloads, your build sucks!
Don’t fight 20 people with Sloads you dongus.
Why is there no video?
Because Path of Exile exists.
Does this work in CP?
Yes, if you allocate them.
What CP should I use?
250 in the Red tree, 250 in the Green tree and 250 in the Blue tree
Your stats are better than mine
Using fully buffed stats in the screenshot, with full gold gear. Yes, it is clickbaity, but even with purple gear the build works just fine.
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✭✭lionofjudah7 wrote: »Summerset is here, and with it comes Sloads Semblance, a set that has been bringing the pain throughout Cyrodil and in Battlegrounds.
For better or for worse it seems like it will remain un-nerfed for the foreseeable future, and thus the QQ will continue. Now as a disclaimer, I might have been listening to a tad much Powerwolf in the lead up to writing the rest of this, so you may have to bear with me.
So without further ado, I present to you the Sload Slayer:
Now I will preface this by saying that this build is optimised for the holy land of no-CP Battlegrounds, though it will work just fine in CP PVP if you actually allocate points, so don’t ask.
First off let’s look at our choice of character. We are picking Stamplar here because on the 11th of May 1189 The Knights Templar joined in the Third Crusade to take back the Holy Land, and we want that sort of legacy. Templar is also the only class with access to a decent Cleanse, but that is less important.
Race wise, I’d say all races are equal and anyone claiming otherwise is a bigot and should be shunned. But personally I go with Imperial
Now the sets.
Shacklebreaker breaks the chains of the oppressive Sloads meta, and blesses us with a large Magicka pool to let us continually cleanse the taint of our opponents. It also gives us plenty of Stamina to continue our holy crusade.
Seventh Legion grants us access to the blessing of our fellow knights in constant heals, alongside granting us the power to smite the unholy abominations befouling the battlefield.
Troll King is pretty interchangable with Bloospawn, both make you tanky and give you sustain, but Troll King is a more direct foil to the Oblivion damage of Sloads. Also insert a witty comment here.
Of course we are going to go with Sword and Shield alongside a Greatsword. The shield is to protect us from the blasphemers, and the Greatsword is there to smite them. Nirnhoned for maximum damage, Infused for boosting weapon damage enchant, and Sturdy for a bit of block cost reduction.
Now I know that many of you are confused at this point, I’ve just given a pretty simple setup, nothing fancy there, and I am sure that many of you have run some of these things yourself. But like many things, the whole is greater than the sum of the parts, so all of you Nightblade mains, sit still for a second and listen.
Sloads is strong because it negates healing. The constant oblivion damage cannot be mitigated, so it will chip away at your effective healing per second, meaning that you need to pop heals more frequently, and when you do, they are less effective. When combined with a source of defile, this effect becomes even more pronounced. Your 3k healing per second drops to 600 or so when hit with the combo, and as any veteran PVPer knows, 600 heals per second is nothing.
So how do you combo this? The answer is simple. Remove the effects, stack more healing and get tanky.
This build accomplishes all three.
Firstly we have Extended Ritual to cleanse up to 5 negative effects. Pairing this with Forward Momentum is also helpful, as it means that we cannot be snared or immobilised, and thus we never have to purge those effects. Secondly we have a lot of healing. Vigor, Forward Momentum, Extended Ritual, Seventh Legion, Troll King and Imperial Passives all add up to a huge amount of healing per second, especially when paired with Mending, Vitality and heavy armour passives, all of which we have access to. Finally while we are not the tankiest build in the world, we still have strong defenses with heavy armour, block and Protection.
Despite all of this, if you lack the skills needed, you can have the best build in the world, and still lose out. So how do you play it out?
Firstly, you are going to want to maintain Forward Momentum, and Focus, these need to be up all the time. Secondly, you are going to want to meter out your purges. Wait for the enemies Sloads and Defile to proc, then cleanse. Despite having Shacklebreaker, we can’t mindlessly spam Ritual, so you need to get value out of it.
From there you have your offense. POTL > Javelin, Stampede, Jabs is your bread and butter. Dawnbreaker as needed.
Shield wall is there to combo with Meditate. Because nothing is more troll than stopping in the middle of combat to pray while your opponent wails away at you dealing negative damage. Just watch out for interrupts.
FAQ:Why not Magplar?
Because I want to do more than spam breath of life
Will this work on Nightblade?
No
Will this work on DK?
No
I thought you were a Stam Sorc player?
Yes
Can I use this other set and still have the build work
If you did it wouldn’t be this build anymore would it?
Is *insert race here* a viable option?
Yes, but Imperial is better.
Your sustain looks bad
Base regen is a tad low yes, but you can run more regen on jewellery if you need it. Meditate and Heavy attack weaving does a pretty good job of covering it up too. Repentence is another option, but is less good in the 1v1.
Can I go Medium?
No, heavy armour passives are too good to give up.
Why Javelin over Reverb?
Ranged CC and the passives are worth more IMO. But Reverb is a strong option if you want to run it.
I still died to 20 people using Sloads, your build sucks!
Don’t fight 20 people with Sloads you dongus.
Why is there no video?
Because Path of Exile exists.
Does this work in CP?
Yes, if you allocate them.
What CP should I use?
250 in the Red tree, 250 in the Green tree and 250 in the Blue tree
Your stats are better than mine
Using fully buffed stats in the screenshot, with full gold gear. Yes, it is clickbaity, but even with purple gear the build works just fine.
I guess this is a roleplay build too huh
Only if yoy run Nord, Khajiit or ArgonianDRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »WYRD TREE + PURGE IS ALL YOU NEED
Sure just let me run a whole bunch of Magicka stuff on my stam character, that is surely a good idea
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LeagueTroll✭✭✭✭✭Build seem good for no cp. I doubt it can work well in cp, seems like lacking dmg.0
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✭✭LeagueTroll wrote: »Build seem good for no cp. I doubt it can work well in cp, seems like lacking dmg.
The current setup is definitely optimised for no-CP, but making the switch isn't too hard.
The 20% resource bonus from CP is pretty massive here, and it would let you drop Healthy jewellery for robust or infused which is a big boost.
You end up capping out at something like 35k stam and 5.5k weapon damage, which when paired with POTL, is enough to take down pretty much anything.
From what I have played of it in CP, I've only really had issues with good sorcs and magblades, due to how hard they can kite, but if you get on top of them and land a decent dawnbreaker they pop pretty quickly.Lord and Savior of the Association of Serious S***posters.
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