Ravager vs Veiled Heritance

mr_wazzabi

With transmute and Jewelery crafting, heavy armour dps sets are now viable.

2 come to mind. Ravager and Veiled Heritance. They're similar in that they give huge weapon damage bonuses when they proc.

Ravager has a much higher value at 630 wd, but only procs on melee damage and has 8% chance to proc.

Veiled heritance is 400 wd, but procs on all damage and has a 10% chance.

Can someone test to see which set nets higher dps? I'm leaning on Heritance because my caltrops and endless hail will probably give it 100% uptime.

Links to the set descriptions below.

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Ravager+Set

https://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Armor+of+the+Veiled+Heritance+Set

reprosal

It is still highly speculated that ravages will not proc from Relequen in a future patch. This will drastically lower the uptime of it.

exiars10

Armor of the Veiled Heritance is fire and forget, and if you are forced to only use ranged attacks, no brainer.
Every serious stamina DD has Endless Hail, Poison Injection and Razor Caltrops so 100% uptime is easily achievable.

I'm going to use it on my DK archer (with The Morag Tong).

mr_wazzabi

reprosal wrote: »

It is still highly speculated that ravages will not proc from Relequen in a future patch. This will drastically lower the uptime of it.

Does it proc at the moment?

AEAltadoonPadhome

Yes it does. I have had uptimes ranging from 40% to 80%. Also see this thread about ravager: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/416232/what-is-ravagers-uptime-in-extended-fights-specifically-pve-both-with-and-without-relequin#latest

exiars10

mr_wazzabi wrote: »

reprosal wrote: »

It is still highly speculated that ravages will not proc from Relequen in a future patch. This will drastically lower the uptime of it.

Does it proc at the moment?

Watch Gilliam talking about it from 8.32:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfVv2KT4NVg

But Relequen is the best skeleton parse set and for low mobility boss fights. Bad for trash fights and high mobility boss fights. At least on PC we have add-on to change gear and abilities on the fly... If you can change gear before fight (and want to even bother with it), sure, Relequen.

reprosal

Personally I am still putting up similar results with war machine/acuity. (45k average 6m dummy)

I will be trying berserking warrior/TFS sometime soon but really need to get some more purple mats to upgrade my jewellery. (Not in an endgame trial guild to spam vet HRC)

Nox_Noir

Veiled Heritance is a very decent and underappreciated set. You can get 75% uptime from front bar only easily and the overall damage is comparable to advancing yokeda, while providing a free resistance bonus and beeing much easier to obtain.
Even before Summerset it was useful if you were using Dubious throne, you could just use 1 piece heavy and 2 healthy rings to get to 17k-18k HP
Ravager is great, if you can proc it enough. The proc conditons on it are rather harsh tho. Works good on Stamplar.
I wouldn't trust that relequen will keep proccing these things forever. That *** seems pretty broken and eventual nerf/fix can be expected.

_Salty_

Vieled on a stam sorc is great!

dovakiin5574

Testing on PTS, I've noticed at the highest a 1k difference in favor of Ravager

Tannus15

dovakiin5574 wrote: »

Testing on PTS, I've noticed at the highest a 1k difference in favor of Ravager

I saw exactly this.

If you can't get ravager then get VH. It's a great set, but not as good as ravager, which is not as good as advancing yokeda.

maybe once relequen gets nerfed ravager might fall off, but on live right now the pecking order is as above.

reprosal

Tried TFS/war machine and TFS/relequen today. Averaging 49k on 6m dummy. 1 bloodthirsty 2 robust (2 gold 1 blue heh)

Selling my ravaging dagger that I have left